Flashback 1974: NCAR Blamed ‘Dramatic Climate Anomalies’ on Growing Arctic Ice – Called Global Cooling The ‘New Norm’ – - 2013: Warmists Blame Climate Disasters On Melting Arctic Ice


By: - Climate DepotDecember 12, 2013 9:36 AM with 648 comments

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Via Real Science

Excerpt from 1974 NCAR report:

Climate Change and its Effect on  World Food

by Walter Orr Roberts  Aspen Institute for Humanistic Studies, and National Center for Atmospheric Research, Boulder, Colorado

In February of 1972 earth-orbiting artificial satellites revealed the existence of a greatly increased area of the snow and ice cover of the north polar cap as compared to all previous years of space age observations. Some scientists believe that this may have presaged the onset of the dramatic climate anomalies of 1972 that brought far-reaching adversities to the world’s peoples. Moreover, there is mounting evidence that the bad climate of 1972 may be the forerunner of a long series of less favorable agricultural crop years that lie ahead for most world societies. Thus widespread food shortages threaten just at the same time that world populations are growing to new highs. Indeed, less favorable climate may be the new global norm. The Earth may have entered a new “little ice age”

There are strong signs that these recent climate disasters were not random deviations from the usual weather, but instead signals of the emergence of a new normal for world climates.

www.iaea.org/Publications/Magazines/Bulletin/Bull165/16505796265.pdf

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Flashback 1974 – CIA blamed extreme weather on global cooling and expanding Arctic ice

Flashback 1974: NCAR Blamed ‘Dramatic Climate Anomalies’ on Growing Arctic Ice – Called Global Cooling The ‘New Norm’ – – 2013: Warmists Blame Climate Disasters On Melting Arctic Ice

1976 CIA Shock News: Global Cooling To Kill Us All – ‘The CIA warned in 1976 that global cooling will increase the frequency of droughts’

Newsweek blamed the 1974 tornado outbreaks, on global cooling

Global sea ice area was the third highest on record – The highest in 25 years and appears headed for an all-time record high

 


648 responses to Flashback 1974: NCAR Blamed ‘Dramatic Climate Anomalies’ on Growing Arctic Ice – Called Global Cooling The ‘New Norm’ – - 2013: Warmists Blame Climate Disasters On Melting Arctic Ice

  1. notanobamaliar December 12th, 2013 at 11:05 AM

    Having more ice will be blamed on “Global Warming” of course.

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    • Old Hickory December 12th, 2013 at 11:15 AM

      Like medieval quacks, the Greens prescribe leeches for both a fever and a
      cold. Remember if it’s non-falsifiable, it’s not science.

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      • JP December 12th, 2013 at 12:25 PM

        I take it that you don’t get it. They don’t care one way or the other. They are using environmentalism as a hammer to beat down capitalism and private property rights at every possible turn. This is in order to centralize control and power in the hands of the government. It is another means to implement the growing dictatorship. Even the founder of Greenpeace figured this out, after he had lost control of his own creation to these tyrants. This is why he left Greenpeace.

        The common people who are suckered into believing this are just as suckers like the Germans who elected Hitler.

        Stop believing this has anything to do with the environment.

        There are plenty of legit concerns about the environment from pollution to overfishing to Fukushima. Global warming is not on of them. It is a tool of the “progressives”.

        Progressive is a code word for socialist. Socialism is a means to communism. Thus spake none other than comrade Lenin himself.

        Wake up.

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        • Old Hickory December 12th, 2013 at 12:46 PM

          Your assumptions are unwarranted. The quacks didn’t expect their “cure” to help the patient and didn’t care whether it did or not. Their “expertise” got them access to power, money and influence. That’s a pretty close analogy for the modern-day charlatans.

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          • NorCalFoothillRich December 12th, 2013 at 1:24 PM

            Exactly: this ‘hoax of the century’ is engineered to exert more control over our daily lives in the form of higher taxes and yet more onerous, draconian regulations.

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          • Old Hickory December 12th, 2013 at 3:15 PM

            Scratch a Green and you’ll usually find a Red. A German professor I know calls them Watermelons.

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          • ditchdigger December 13th, 2013 at 2:06 AM

            I was farming in Calivornya in the mid 70s, we had extreems. 100 + Mile an hour winds, drought, followed by three times normal rain/snow fall. A repeat of 1966, 52, on and on. It is bad weather, nothing more.

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          • Al D December 12th, 2013 at 8:01 PM

            You can point the warming hoax out to liberals with all the correct data to back your position and they still won’t believe it. That’s how immersed in this global warming crap they are. Never mind that both ice caps are thickening and that is has always been normal for polar bears to end up stranded on icebergs.

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          • JohnGaltDurham December 13th, 2013 at 8:12 AM

            Not to mention there has been no actual warming in over 15 years.

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          • ditchdigger January 5th, 2014 at 12:51 AM

            Polar bears that become stranded become food for Orcas or crabs. That is what wildlife is.

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        • KNOWtheFACTS December 12th, 2013 at 2:16 PM

          Actually, YOU need to wake up… we are en route to FASCISM. There is a difference.

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          • Old Hickory December 12th, 2013 at 3:09 PM

            Fascism is just socialism with corporate sponsorship. Think NASCAR Socialism.

            Both groups believe in maximum control by the politicians – they just use different excuses to get to that end. Both are all about POWER and everything else is just rationalization. That’s why it was so easy for Mussolini to go from socialist to fascist and for Vladamir Putin of the KGB and Slobodan Milosevic to go from communist to fascist.

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          • mojorisin69 December 12th, 2013 at 3:44 PM

            “Fascism is just socialism with corporate sponsorship. Think NASCAR Socialism.”

            Not even close…

            1. Fascism is an expression of middle-class discontent.
            2. Marxism and other forms of Socialism are expressions of lower-class and working-class discontent.
            3. Hitler was brought to power by Fascism.
            4. The Russian Revolution was Marxist.
            5. Fascism is nationalist: The Nazis were vehemently opposed to internationalism. They quit the League of Nations.
            6. Marxism and Socialism are internationalist.
            7. Fascists believed that God was on their side.
            8. Marxism is atheist.
            9. Fascism is militaristic.
            10. Fascism is racist.
            11. Fascism is homophobic. Before his onslaught on Jews, Hitler exterminated the gays.
            12. Fascism is for traditional family values (Only three roles for women: Kinder, Kuche und Kirche).
            13. Fascism is cosy with the conglomerates.

            Fascism/Nazism and Socialism are each other’s opposite: The former is on the Right, and latter on the Left. And the distinction between Right and Left remains very meaningful, today in America as much as it was in 20th century Europe.

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          • Old Hickory December 12th, 2013 at 3:55 PM

            You’re focused like a laser on the TRIVIA. Those are the petty details I referred to earlier. Theoretical motive is meaningless because the outcome is the same.

            Communism and fascism are different just like the Crips and the Bloods are different. The real opposite of totalitarian statism is limited government. Neither system can gain a foothold where the overall power of the central government is restrained.

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          • normusa December 14th, 2013 at 12:14 AM

            You are right. I think of the political graph with the vertical scale being the size of government. At the left end are Communism, Socialism, Naziism or other “ism” having all government or oligarchy. At the far right would be no government which is Anarchy (which would be chaos). The American government was based a little to the right of center in a limited government. Little Red Ridinghood would call it the Mama Bear Zone.

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          • Sean Woods December 12th, 2013 at 4:16 PM

            The Russian Revolution was in practice little different from fascism. Socialism is not necessarily internationalist. Fascism is not necessarily religious, and Hitler was very likely an atheist. Every Marxist regime has been very militaristic. Fascism is not necessarily racist, and Marxism is not necessarily non-racist…Karl Marx was a racist. Fascism is not necessarily “homophobic”, again neither is Marxism necessarily the opposite…Stalin made homosexuality punishable by 5 years’ hard labor. Fascists put women to work just like everybody else. Fascism took over conglomerates; it was their master not their friend.
            There is, in short, no functional difference between the two. One puts everyone under its boot and attempts to conquer other lands for the sake of national strength, while the other puts everyone under its boot and attempts to conquer the entire world for the sake of making everyone equal. Equating one to “the left’ and the other to “the right” was completely meaningless in their inception, and far more so in today’s America where the Right is concerned with economic freedom (the exact opposite of fascism) and public morality, while the Left is concerned with economic control (as is the case in both Marxism and fascism) and public amorality. It’s true that the right is still here more nationalistic and militaristic, but not anywhere near to the level of fascism.

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          • Big Hoss December 12th, 2013 at 5:09 PM

            You are incorrect on at least one account…Hitler did not exterminate the gays….The NAZI party for founded by gays in a gay bar. The NAZI’s may have taken a few gays but nothing like they did to the jews.

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          • Cahal the Mad™ December 12th, 2013 at 5:13 PM

            BS. Fascism is not “Right wing”. Fascism is not a political stance like the rest of socialism or communism, anyone can be fascist and right now, the liberals have a lock on it.

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          • Bus Driver December 12th, 2013 at 5:49 PM

            No, they are not meaningful. They are both the same coin; dictatorship, government control over peoples lives. The real right versus left is dictatorship versus anarchy. This divide is exactly what the constitution was developed to stop; to put America exactly in the middle – not anarchy, not government control. We have moved way too far to one end of the spectrum. The result may well be a rebound to the opposite, as far right as we were left. Both are wrong. What we need is to return to the original Constitution. Lets get back to our origins. Then we will be safe.

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          • Terenc Blakely December 12th, 2013 at 6:00 PM

            “Fascists believed that God was on their side.”

            BS, Hitler was an atheist who hated Christianity. He thought it was a ‘weak’ religion and wanted to eventually replace it with Germany’s earlier paganism roots. And communists were/are racists and homophobes also. They just focused most oh their ire against the ‘rich’.

            Fascism/Nazism and Socialism/Communism are both totalitarian creeds that just used different scapegoats to achieve their ends. The main difference between the two is that Fascism/Nazism promoted existing social norms as a counter to Socialism/Communism who wanted to destroy existing social norms. It was an effective strategy to differentiate themselves from Socialism/Communism who scared the bejesus out of most folks.

            Associating Fascism/Nazism with the right in this country is one of the greatest propaganda successes in history. Conservatives in this country want less gov control while Fascism/Nazism is all about total gov control just like Socialism/Communism. Fascism/Nazism/Socialism/Communism are just different permutations of the same thing, tyranny.

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          • czechlist December 12th, 2013 at 7:18 PM

            The founders saw The “LEFT” as TYRANNY – by any name and The “RIGHT” as ANARCHY. They created the CONSTITUTION in order to achieve the middle ground called FREEDOM.

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          • Old Hickory December 12th, 2013 at 7:59 PM

            You are looking at two snuff films with the same cast of actors. In one, the tall guy kills the short guy. In the other one, the short guy kills the tall guy.

            You are claiming that these two films are polar opposites. I’m telling you that they are basically identical and the opposite of both snuff films is Lassie or Heidi.

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          • Al D December 12th, 2013 at 8:02 PM

            And this has what to do with climatology?

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          • mollypo December 13th, 2013 at 1:10 AM

            Socialism is just communism light. And we know that both fail economically unless there is capitalism to which they can attach themselves as parasites.

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          • omegaman22 December 13th, 2013 at 1:41 AM

            You are an absolute moron. Congrats!

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          • James Tanner December 13th, 2013 at 2:17 AM

            Wrong. The Nazi stands for the National Socialist German Workers Party. This sound very lefty to me. They are the same thing as socialists except they are nationalist..

            I love it when dimwit liberals try to pond the Nazi’s as far right. The right is limited government and the far right is anarchist meaning no government. The further to the left the bigger the government.

            The NAZI utilized big government for their police state. This is a byproduct of progressiveness and their love for big government.

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          • Guest December 16th, 2013 at 3:44 PM

            You need a history lesson that’s not clouded by the liberal thought process.

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          • Sean Woods December 12th, 2013 at 3:45 PM

            Fascism IS socialism, but your “corporate sponsorship” line is completely incorrect. Though fascism is typically “corporatist”, which many believe means giving power to business corporations, this actually means the unionization of various interests in society into “corporations”, official interest groups (like labor, veterans, the elderly, manufacturers, etc…) controlled by the government not the other way around. What makes fascism different is not this, but the goal: it is focused on national strength rather than egalitarianism.

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          • guestchristian December 12th, 2013 at 8:44 PM

            Do you mean Fascism like the Nazi Party? Which stands for NATIONAL SOCALISM PARTY!!

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      • normusa December 13th, 2013 at 11:53 PM

        Evolution fits that description also–non-falsifiable, it’s not science–it’s faith. The Greenies, Lefties, Progressives or whatever label you assign, they are very religious people with a LOT of faith.

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    • L K December 12th, 2013 at 11:23 AM

      The climate stopped warming during the Bush administration….so its guess who’s fault?

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      • FarOutlier December 12th, 2013 at 12:10 PM

        Cheney? Right? Or was it Bush? Okay, so we need…. I give up. Never could keep their arguments going.

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      • Rikki Doxx December 12th, 2013 at 3:04 PM

        Lincoln?

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    • Bubba December 12th, 2013 at 11:55 AM

      WOW! 1974… yeah definetly George W Bush’s fault.

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    • FarOutlier December 12th, 2013 at 12:09 PM

      Please, more ice already has been blamed on global warming. The Antarctic ice pack is growing. Climate idiots blame global warming. Their speil is that warming causes “fresh water” to melt which then re-freezes easier than salt water. Of course that doesn’t work in the Arctic ice (go figure). No limit to their stupidity.

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      • Al D December 12th, 2013 at 8:06 PM

        The ice cap on the North Pole is now thickening at record pace. You can Google up many recent stories about this shocking (not to me) development.

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    • truthteller13 December 12th, 2013 at 1:08 PM

      This “global warming” swindle has gone on long enough.

      It’s time for these warm mongers to seek therapy and stop foisting their neurosis on normal people.

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    • Gothamite December 12th, 2013 at 1:49 PM

      You know if they just came out and said, “Hey we guess a lot because we make our conclusions based on our political agendas” this would go a lot better. Otherwise it’s just pseudo-science.

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    • Old Hickory December 12th, 2013 at 2:12 PM

      I went outside Sunday morning and found a couple of inches of global warming on my driveway. I went looking for my hockey stick but nobody had seen it in a couple of years. I called Al Gore and asked to borrow his but he denied ever having a hockey stick.

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      • czechlist December 12th, 2013 at 7:36 PM

        Kudos!
        I have noticed how the extremists immediately cite unusual heat and drought as AGW but unusual cold and rain are Global Climate Change. However if a “denier” points out any inconsistency they cry “It’s only weather, stupid!”. I worked R&D for 20 years with a bunch of self described “genius” PhD physicists. The standard joke in the proving labs was “if the data do not confirm the theory they must be disposed of”.

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    • BLAMEbama December 12th, 2013 at 2:13 PM

      No, it’s Bush’s fault. We need to blame Bush, for the children.

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      • Kit. December 13th, 2013 at 12:01 AM

        Did Bush fart?

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    • City_Of_Champyinz December 12th, 2013 at 2:20 PM

      This is nothing more than a scam. This is what the bureaucrats say about it in their own words:

      Quote by Ottmar Edenhoffer, high level UN-IPCC official: “We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy…Basically it’s a big mistake to discuss climate policy separately from the major themes of globalization…One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore.”

      Quote by Timoth Wirth, U.S./UN functionary, former elected Democrat Senator: “We’ve got to ride the global-warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic policy and environmental policy.”

      Quote by Kevin Trenberth, a lead author of 2001 and 2007 IPCC report chapters: “None of the models used by the IPCC are initialized to the observed state and none of the climate states in the models correspond even remotely to the current observed state”.

      Quote by Richard Benedik, former U.S./UN bureaucrat: “A global climate treaty must be implemented even if there is no scientific evidence to back the greenhouse effect.”

      Quote by Stephen Schneider, Stanford Univ., environmentalist: “That, of course, entails getting loads of media coverage. So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements, and make little mention of any doubts we might have.”

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    • P_Ang December 12th, 2013 at 5:44 PM

      No no no, if it disagrees with obvious scientific evidence it’s “Climate Change.”

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  2. Guest December 12th, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    Okay you greenies.. can’t have it both ways here.. PIck a side. We will either freeze our asses off.. or sweat them off… ALL becasue of globala warming BAHAHAHAHA You fools!

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    • Richard_Iowa December 12th, 2013 at 11:14 AM

      Absolutely. Global warming causes the earth to heat up, but this only occurs on warm days. Global warming also causes the earth to get cold, and this is especially noticable when it is freezing. Carbon taxes will solve all of these problems.

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      • Lloyd Bigglesworth December 12th, 2013 at 2:31 PM

        Richard has it spot on! Now, if I can just remember this…heat…warm days, cold during freezi…. Oh, it’s just too hard. Thanks though.

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    • distillerman December 12th, 2013 at 11:31 AM

      The fact is, Guest, is that the greenies can indeed have it both ways. Sad, isn’t it?

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    • Dave Nantz December 12th, 2013 at 11:42 AM

      Follow the money. The Obama admin gives millions in grants to these puppets.

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      • George Johnson December 12th, 2013 at 12:01 PM

        And that money is somehow as pure as the wind driven snow (snow! Ha!) But any money from other sources such as energy companies, is somehow tainted and dirty. Therefore any studies made using said dirty money, will also be tainted. While theirs…. pure and saintly….. no bias in there, none at all.

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  3. AstroNerdBoy December 12th, 2013 at 11:08 AM

    If the non-warming continues or we do shift to global cooling, the narrative will switch back to what it was in 1974.

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  4. vb_guy December 12th, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    refuse to use the tautology “Climate Change” … it is “global warming” … and we are all going to drown

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    • Old Hickory December 12th, 2013 at 11:29 AM

      Global Warming is just like Obamacare. They think there is nothing wrong with the program that can’t be fixed by marketeers. They just need to be re-launched and re-branded.

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      • TheLibertyDefender December 12th, 2013 at 1:45 PM

        Re-branded… Kind of like how they rebranded communism as progressivism and “tolerance.”

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    • George Johnson December 12th, 2013 at 12:04 PM

      That’s what a lot of them want. I can’t even count the number of people (greenies) that are running around promoting the elimination of mankind. As if we’re some alien population or something, and Earth was supposed to be inhabited by nothing but the lower animals.
      Of course, like global warming etc…. they want US to off OURselves, while they reap the benefits of not having us around. The suggestion that they show us how it’s done and off themselves first, to start a trend, is met with anger.

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  5. Scott Miller December 12th, 2013 at 11:12 AM

    Okay all you Green WEENIES out there.. Can’t have it all ways here.. Your wind power is KILLING birds… but windpower is good for the environment.. You want electric cars.. but electricity is made in USA primarily by coal…According to the facts of this article.. we were going to freeze our asses off due to the coming ice age predicted in the 1970′s…or vaporize due to impending global warming. Make up your scrambled minds you fools!

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    • MaxAR15 December 12th, 2013 at 11:34 AM

      Scott, they will make up their minds when they find out how much more money they can get from the government to fund their university studies.

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    • Nightwingcowboy December 12th, 2013 at 12:39 PM

      Scott, new studies show that wind farms actually impact the weather. Mostly in a negative way that harms not only animals but plant life as well. Try to track down the carbon footprint and actual cost of just one of these giant turbines. You only hear the benefits of “free” power. If people knew the true cost to the environment and productivity, they’d be wiped from the face of the earth in under a year.

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      • SpadeAce December 12th, 2013 at 3:13 PM

        Exactly, just one of those turbines requires over a ton of rare earth elements. Most of that comes from China and is very destructive to the environment to process.

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        • czechlist December 12th, 2013 at 7:48 PM

          And at some “Farms” they actually have to stop them at their most productive times because the locals can’t stand the “noise pollution”. Also the aircraft warning lights cause “light pollution”.

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      • Scott Miller December 12th, 2013 at 8:21 PM

        Indeed NWC: The pollution spin off from the manufacturing of the turbines & subsequent vast wasteland & brownfields left in their wake proves the old adage…be careful what you wish for. The greenies ALL want “alternative” power.. but fail to grasp the unintended consequences.

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  6. Thanks dems! Thanks RINO's! December 12th, 2013 at 11:14 AM

    Either way, we need higher taxes to fix this problem caused by these hideous 200lb primates! What a wonderful world it would be with a total world population of just 10mil liberals with 50mil slaves! Utopia! Pure communism/liberalism/marxism! Imagine!

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    • Thanks dems! Thanks RINO's! December 12th, 2013 at 11:19 AM

      Liberals, the universe’s greatest thieves!

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  7. ocnewswatcher December 12th, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    I heard a global warming expert talking about the coming extra bitter cold coming because of global warming… oh, wait… that sounds stupid… lets call it climate “change” that allows us to get colder weather out of a planet with a fever.

    My theory is that because Governments can’t scare and control the masses by creating a fear of God, they are diligently trying to exert control by creating a fear of the weather.

    Having seen how the ignorant masses can be so easily fooled, it just might work.

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  8. muhamedikbar December 12th, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    In 5,4,3,2,1……some left wingnut progressive will come here and explain that this is all what they predicted back in the day and they’re right on target with climate change according to all their models. everyone that doesn’t agree, or bow down to the science god, are a bunch of idiots opposed to “science.”

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    • FarOutlier December 12th, 2013 at 12:16 PM

      Not to mention racist haters. sorry, thought I would lighten things up.

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  9. in4d net December 12th, 2013 at 11:18 AM

    Dennis Miller was right!

    He said that driving an SUV is actually a part of the solution, that those who drive Priuses are actually causing the coming “ice age” as predicted in the April 28, 1975 issue of National Geographic, as shown and discussed with Jay Leno on The Tonight Show a few years back.

    What gets me is those who complain of CO2 emissions, claiming that it damages the planet and will kill us and therefore we need to reduce it and tax it in order to control and limit it. (Humans exhale CO2, while plants require it in order to create the oxygen that humans need.)

    Meanwhile, lone wolf Nigel Farage is up against the European Union with photographic evidence. Check him out on Youtube.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFpzaQPKC54

    It’s all just an excuse for a money-grab from the “developed world”, as they like to call it.

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  10. Jimmy Ray, Jr. December 12th, 2013 at 11:19 AM

    They “warmers” will claim their efforts over the past 15 years is the reason for the cooling of the earth.

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  11. Joseph P. Campbell December 12th, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    The blame game goes on and on.
    Earth’s climate is driven SOLELY by energy output from the sun, and man’s contribution is inconsequential…

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  12. Founders1791 December 12th, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    ———-
    “Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence” - Carl Sagan
    ———-
    Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds is a book written in 1841, as relevant today as then, which exposes National and Political Delusions that caused economic bubbles, crusades against other people, and scientific fraud and deceit.

    We have a$$clowns today repeating history.
    ———-

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    • Tony Martin December 12th, 2013 at 2:31 PM

      I rented that one at a local library. Boy was some of it fascinating. I really liked the tulip bulb craze, I believe in Holland mid 19th century. The price of certain pretty bulbs were going for the rate of several nice houses. Obviously a market cannot withstand relatively worthless items trading at 50K times pre-bubble value. I find the correlation with the current US petro dollar to be spot on. Once the feverish demand for US dollars/Tulip bulbs subsides (as oil is only traded in USD-artificial demand), there will without a shadow of a doubt, be the same market implosion and subsequent mass hysteria involved. THERE TRULY IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN

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  13. DavidKramer December 12th, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    We all know the “solution” to either global cooling, global warming or the status quo climate-

    More taxes, more control, more fascism. For the chirrun!

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  14. L K December 12th, 2013 at 11:22 AM

    Even in 1972, just a decade or so from the start of space based earth observations, those with an agenda had the audacity to make predictions on a pin pick on a pin prick of climate history data that the earth climate was not just changing, BUT had a knowable cause of the change…unlike the climate, the bias($$$$$$$$$$$$$) of experts never changes, just the bad actors do.

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    • Joseph P. Campbell December 12th, 2013 at 11:23 AM

      Careful about the adjective “expert”!

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  15. Jorge December 12th, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    I just laugh at the fact these scientist cannot get it through their head that they do not know jack.

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    • FarOutlier December 12th, 2013 at 12:15 PM

      Actually scientists know a great deal. So the left keep them from publishing and speaking out. Real science is not allowed. Its all proven and indisputable. Ask any climate believer. The proven science of delusion.

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    • George Johnson December 12th, 2013 at 1:11 PM

      More like amazing how many will sell their souls for more funding.

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  16. lou December 12th, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Algore is just counting his money an laughing at us as the radical left administration is carrying his lie to the UN.

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  17. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    im tired of these left wing cooks telling me Obama’s tire inflation plan isn’t working!!!!

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  18. bayjack December 12th, 2013 at 11:27 AM

    With this blast of ARCTIC air coming down on us from Canada, do you suppose that Artic ice is still melting? Oh, and did you see the article the other day on Drudge about the increase in ice in the Antarctic? Oh my! What to do, what to do. I don’t know whether to s__t or go blind.

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    • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:29 AM

      just end it all by walking into some secondhand smoke

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  19. Founders1791 December 12th, 2013 at 11:28 AM

    The socialist democrat cult is consumed with “The Religion of Self Importance” and the righteousness of their beliefs that simply fail the scientific method of proof.
    —————
    “…The Elites of the West have cranked up the myth of Man-Made Global Warming as a means to control the lives and behaviors of their populations…This is a religion…”
    - Pravda, January 2013

    Global warming, the tool of the West – Pravda 2013
    http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/04-01-2013/123380-global_warming-0/

    Alaska has most ice ever recorded – 2012
    http://www.real-science.com/alaska-has-the-most-ice-ever-recorded

    Antarctica Sea Ice Hits record high – 2012
    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/10/121013-antarctica-sea-ice-record-high-science-global-warming/

    Obama low information lemmings actually their believe theories are facts!
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  20. Fumapty December 12th, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    Global warming caused by human activity is established scientific consensus. Anyone who disputes this publicly is almost in criminal status.

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    • BenGladden December 12th, 2013 at 11:34 AM

      Established scientific consensus? Is that like a political fact?

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    • You StupidFarkingLiar December 12th, 2013 at 11:35 AM

      So that’s why atmospheric CO2 has risen to over 400 ppm and it’s getting colder!
      LOLatSTUPIDPeople

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    • Rob Hobart December 12th, 2013 at 3:18 PM

      Fascist Lefty is fascist.

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  21. knighttemplar01 December 12th, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    Like political polling, the databases are manipulated to skew to a predetermined outcome. We are not experiencing climate change, only statistical data changed to fit a UN / NWO objective.

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  22. distillerman December 12th, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    The clueless lying talking heads will say anything to advance their power hungry agenda. It is the new norm. Sadly, I sense no pushback from the enslaved masses.

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  23. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:31 AM

    im more concerned that aids has shut down the porn industry AGAIN!!!! under bush they worked, paid taxes, under Obama they die

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  24. smrat democrat December 12th, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    GLOBAL WARMING MAKE IT COLDER SEW OF COARSE THERE IS MORE ICE
    GLOBAL COOLING IN 1974 MADE IT WARMER THAN GLOBAL WARMING MADE IT COOLER.
    PEOPLE WHO DENY THIS OUR RACISTS STUPID T-BAGGERS

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    • Jason Joseph December 12th, 2013 at 11:44 AM

      You are exactly the type of intelligent person that the left relies on.

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    • BinRaleigh December 12th, 2013 at 11:50 AM

      Does this go along with Bugs and Daffy routine about Daffy getting to host the show NEXT WEEK?

      Daffy: This week is last week’s next week. But this next week wont be this week until next week!

      Now if only Wile E.Coyote was remembered for his BRILLIANT painting of tunnels…

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  25. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    do you ever think JFK was happy to take a bullet?

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  26. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    look, we got bigger fish to fry, the industry SNUBBED oprah

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  27. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    how does a crazy person get a job doing sign language?

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  28. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    opie and Anthony sure get under howard’s skin

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  29. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    the laffer curve is laughing, 17.4 trillion in debt

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  30. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    look we gots Asian pilots who cant do a visual approach

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  31. MaxAR15 December 12th, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    This will be solved when these brains find out how much more money they can get from the ‘government’ to fund their university studies! That will probably require 50 years more of studies.

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  32. HonestDemocrat December 12th, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Anyone who still believes in manmade global warming is a moron. Plain and simple.

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  33. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    man, I had a GREAT bowel movement today

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    • Rex December 12th, 2013 at 11:49 AM

      We’ve had an ObowelMovement for five long tears now….

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  34. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    im worried the hole in the ozone layer is now shown on milk cartons

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  35. billyjeff2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    And also mentioned in this article was the warming trend that later manifested to what we are currently experiencing–multiple years of record or near record high global temps. Not so far off the mark for a 40 year old study after all…

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  36. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    acid rain is going to kill ALL the trees

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  37. HonestDemocrat December 12th, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    With atmospheric CO2 levels rising above 400 ppm, we should be seeing record high temps, not record cold temps like 135 BELOW ZERO!
    I wish Democrats would stop telling lies about Global Warming.

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  38. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    the coral reefs are dying, blah ha ha

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  39. alleycat22 December 12th, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    We are in the grasp of global BS and it needs to be stopped. There are way too many progressives breathing good clean air that intellegent people could be breathing…

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  40. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:40 AM

    hey you got your opie and Anthony in my howard stern, no you got your howard stern in my opie and Anthony!!!! mancow your thoughts

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  41. HonestDemocrat December 12th, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    “IN A FEW SHORT YEARS, CHILDREN WILL NO LONGER KNOW WHAT SNOW IS”
    Global Warming “scientist” 2000

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  42. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    look, johnny wyker of sailcat died this week. he is riding with his motorcycle moma up in heaven now!!!

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  43. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    I need to take a selfie of me standing in front of some snow

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  44. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:43 AM

    turn up the global warming, im freezing this morning baby

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  45. webejammin December 12th, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    What ever happened to the ozone hole?

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  46. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    where were all the hurricanes that were forecast last summer? did I miss them?

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  47. Duke December 12th, 2013 at 11:45 AM

    I remember these threats of Global Cooling and the coming Mini Ice Age……..yeah thanks for scary stories that did not come true! Da mn Hippies!!!

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  48. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    how much heat is Michele O putting out after Obama and his selfie with that blonde chick?

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    • izzyabby December 12th, 2013 at 12:16 PM

      Proving you’re not gay is no easy thing…Moo gets it

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    • Al D December 12th, 2013 at 8:16 PM

      Heat? Michele O has been frigid with King O ever since that selfish selfie. You can bet the White House on it. He probably had to go to one of those self service massage parlors for a little relief.

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  49. smarchcomments December 12th, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    you can’t spell Global Warming without Global War

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  50. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:46 AM

    we’ve got to outlaw trees

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  51. jabusse December 12th, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Bad weather always looks worse through the funding request window.

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  52. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    man, Anthony sure gets to howard, hoo hoo hoo robin

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  53. GrandLarsenE December 12th, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    I blame beer and soda. You know, all that CO2

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  54. AG December 12th, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    GOOGLE “Alberto Gorez”……he is the noted S. American Global Cooling Climatologist who has been warning the world about the dangers of Global Cooling for over a decade.
    He is largely ignored by the Socialist Democrat Semite Media because he is NOT calling for trillions in new taxes on the middle class, as a solution to Global Cooling.

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    • damnitalready December 12th, 2013 at 1:55 PM

      Alberto Gorez? ALberto GOREz? Funny, I googled for him, why does it seem like a joke? Please tell me it’s a joke.

      [edit] – your username- AG – got it. very good.

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  55. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:48 AM

    isn’t that hot brunette in that blurred lines putting out a lot of heat? meow baby

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  56. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    but fox news sure hires the babe man, meow any hour, 24/7 365

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    • izzyabby December 12th, 2013 at 12:13 PM

      And smart babes, 8 out of 10 are lawyers, for starters

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  57. hunterson December 12th, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    But the alarmists and hypesters and rent seekers are winning in so many places.

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  58. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    what cool guy pot smoking Hawaiian DOESNT SURF?

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  59. MacDaddyWatch December 12th, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    Its just a matter of time before the plug is pulled on all HOAXES. The Coming Ice Age and Global Warming are proving to be no exceptions.

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    • FarOutlier December 12th, 2013 at 12:17 PM

      not to mention keeping your own doctors and health plans and lower cost.

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  60. alpha2actual December 12th, 2013 at 11:50 AM

    90% of Earth’s ice load is sequestered in the Antarctic. While the Arctic’s ice extent has been declining for the past 33 years the Antarctic’s ice extent has been increasing. Plot the CO2 dataset, normalized, for the past 33 years against the NSIDC southern hemisphere ice extent, normalized, and you will find that they are perfectly correlated therefore it follows that CO2 causes Global Cooling.Woodfortrees.org data sets.

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  61. Jason Joseph December 12th, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    You know it’s cold when a liberal has his hands in his own pockets.

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    • mensa141 December 12th, 2013 at 12:19 PM

      Best post I’ve read today!!

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    • ss26mar December 12th, 2013 at 1:12 PM

      I question that theory — You are not sure what those hands are doing ergo its an imperfect theory!

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    • Al D December 12th, 2013 at 8:08 PM

      Never happen. They’ve always got their hands in OUR pockets.

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  62. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    how is America the problem when you see pictures from china?

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  63. kimbershot December 12th, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    well, the old school is dying off and is followed by the new school. trouble is, they can’t find the field notes.

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  64. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:52 AM

    led zeppelin june 2 1973 at kezar stadium, forget about it

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  65. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    move over rover and let jimi take over? man that dude couldn’t even do drugs proper

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  66. Roger Edward Harris December 12th, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    Solution, lets take all our money and make a great big pile and let the scientist/politicians/pigs roll in it. That will solve all the problems except they will have the money and we will still be cold or hot, whatever the day brings.

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  67. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    isn’t global warming good for growing weed?

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  68. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:55 AM

    but Obama has done nothing to reduce weed prices for hippies

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  69. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    johnny wyker of sailcat “motorcycle moma” song RIP

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  70. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:57 AM

    what’s the powerball up to?

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  71. eztalk December 12th, 2013 at 11:58 AM

    Can anyone doubt the lunacy our “intellectuals” have become?

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  72. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    I miss duan allman

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  73. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:01 PM

    if only the Indians didn’t teach the people at Jamestown how to grow tobacco, America would have failed, end of story

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  74. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    in 1974 who were teens masturbating to like kaley cuoco today?

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    • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:03 PM

      who was THE BABE? HUH!!!!

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  75. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    man, in 1974 jimmy buffett was just as lame as he is today

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  76. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    man, in 1974 KISS was still largely unknown baby

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  77. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:07 PM

    what a big gulp paradise America was in 1974

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  78. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    do you think boone’s farm wine will ever make a comeback?

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    • Eagle0542 December 12th, 2013 at 12:26 PM

      Strawberry Hill? I hope so! LOL!

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  79. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    hey that was the year of California jam, man!!!!!

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  80. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    in 1974, nobody had someone doing sign language be it real of fake

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  81. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    in 1974 was Obama in Africa eating dog with his father?

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  82. craphound December 12th, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    Another generation , another scam to steal your money and control us . Dont beleve the LIE’s

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  83. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    1974 was the year Nixon got run out of office for lying? but everybody lies man?

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  84. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    charlies angles was still a couple of years in the future, big hair!!!!!

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  85. La Billyboy December 12th, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    I wonder how reducing our carbon footprint will reduce the chances of the Yellowstone super volcano from erupting, or the San Andreas fault from slipping… THOSE are REAL problems. No matter what we do the Earth will heat up and cool down over thousands of years. The last ice age’s maximum was only 22,000 years ago and lasted until only 12,000 years ago… guess what? There will be another no matter what humans do…

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  86. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    man, in 1973, led zeppelin had such a good year, Elton was king, black oak Arkansas was a headliner baby

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  87. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    elvis was working hard to earn his black belt man

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  88. JohnQ2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    Coldest recorded temperature on Earth at 135 degrees below zero in Antarctica with a 35 year high in ice cover. A 28% increase in Arctic ice cover over last year. Over 1,000 record low temperatures across the US in the last week. It appears to be getting colder globally and this is not good for things like food production and costs of energy as demand goes up (although new US natural gas supplies mitigate that somewhat). The frost line seems to continue farther south every year despite Greenpeace claims of melting Santas and drowining polar bears. To add to it all there has been a steady increase in US air quality over the last 10 years which is good news.

    The greens should be very happy, the Earth is not warming and the air is cleaner. Why not claim victory and go away rather then demanding we halt human progress and live like troglodyte peasants? That’s a rhetorical question…

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    • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:17 PM

      JP7

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  89. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:16 PM

    were the ohio players in the charts?

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  90. zagnut64 December 12th, 2013 at 12:17 PM

    Theories lead to more gov. grants, not actual answers or solutions.

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    • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:19 PM

      who buys skittles when you have zagnuts?

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      • zagnut64 December 12th, 2013 at 12:19 PM

        Zagnuts have been proven to cure a loss of common sense.

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  91. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:19 PM

    who would have thought the berlin wall would come down back in 1974?

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  92. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    what did weed sell for in 74?

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    • FL_Stingray December 12th, 2013 at 12:56 PM

      60 bux a Z if you knew where to go

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      • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:57 PM

        I paid 35 for an ounce in 1980, it had to be cheaper

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  93. Don Surber December 12th, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    Weather is cyclical.

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  94. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:21 PM

    in 1974, the cocaine industry was just waiting to explode

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    • ss26mar December 12th, 2013 at 12:35 PM

      Oh my God — that explains it all. Coke did it! Well I am switching to Pepsi right now!

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  95. brunsk42 December 12th, 2013 at 12:22 PM

    I wonder if these people know how cumulus clouds form.????

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    • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:26 PM

      latent heat baby

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  96. Major Kalhoun December 12th, 2013 at 12:24 PM

    And these are the studies we are supposed to trust? Opinion papers written by people with a set agenda who fail to denote historical documents and base their entire opinion on a whim. Show me one scientist who can predict the weather thirty days from now. Just one. If they cannot do that, then they are lying about climate change.

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  97. Jonesy December 12th, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    Its pretty simple. There is x amount of water in the world. The ice caps are water banks. Larger ice caps mean less water in the biosphere, hence, a drier earth with more deserts and droughts. Smaller ice caps mean more water in the biosphere, hence, a greener earth with farming capable at higher latitudes..Which is better? I am not denying global warming, I am denying it is bad. I do have a question for the glo-warmer fanatics-what day do you want it to be? What actual day in history was everything juuuuuuust right? Oct 9, 1954? What day, please? What day?

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    • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:29 PM

      providing the sun can ever be considered a constant right?

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    • ss26mar December 12th, 2013 at 12:50 PM

      January 21, 1961 was puurfffect — Just listen to the greatest speech ever made by a democrat in the balmy weather in DC that day.

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      • scook84 December 12th, 2013 at 1:12 PM

        Ask NOT what you climate can do for you! Ask what you can do for your climate!

        <3 Muah!

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        • ss26mar December 12th, 2013 at 1:15 PM

          And we children of the fifties all believed it too! Sheesh were we naive.

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          • scook84 December 12th, 2013 at 1:17 PM

            Well, Mr. Greenjeans looked so honest standing next to Captain Kangaroo! How could we not believe then..

            Today, we have no excuse.

            <3 Muah!

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  98. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:28 PM

    in 74, mike was screaming at archie all this stuff that was going to happen in 20 years, none of it came true? huh

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  99. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    in 1974, lying was a big deal to democrats, oh wait I forgot it was Nixon lying, after that EVERYBODY LIES, HUH?

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  100. oljw December 12th, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    “Climate Change” means that whatever the weather these louts can claim the weather to be a result of are whatever they desire it to be..

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  101. TheSharpenedPen December 12th, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Looks like the alarmists should have stuck with their original global governance power grab scheme of global cooling – it’s a much more likely scenario.

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  102. Kingsman December 12th, 2013 at 12:32 PM

    Notice how fast it’s gone from “Global Warming” to “Climate Change”. What a crock of s*it. I would like to shove my carbon foot print up their collective butt’s

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    • TheSharpenedPen December 12th, 2013 at 12:35 PM

      Ya, and the greenie weenies were all crying about the evil oil companies, and yet it was the evil oil companies who were all jumping on board for carbon credit trading schemes! As if trading clean coal burning factories in America, for dirty coal burning factories in China, would somehow make the world a ‘cleaner’ place or halt global warming (all that we needed to do to halt global warming was to wait until the sun’s warm period ended – approximately 15 years ago).

      Go East Anglia! You hide that decline!

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    • BinRaleigh December 12th, 2013 at 1:00 PM

      With climate CHANGE, they get paid no matter what.

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  103. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:34 PM

    FONZIE HADNT EVEN JUMPED THE SHARK IN 74 MAN

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  104. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:36 PM

    in 74 the idea of the department of energy was created to wing us off of foreign oil!!!!! blah ha ha,,, great job guys

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    • ss26mar December 12th, 2013 at 12:38 PM

      Actually it was created to clean up the smut from California. Oops smog! Nixon didn’t like his beach view obstructed.

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      • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:40 PM

        no that would be the environmental protection agency “the EPA”

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        • ss26mar December 12th, 2013 at 12:43 PM

          Aren’t they the same?

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  105. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    what was the us debt in 1974? just a few billion dollars? now its 17.4 trillion, huh

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    • TheSharpenedPen December 12th, 2013 at 12:38 PM

      Quick! Block out the sun and maybe no one will notice!

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      • ss26mar December 12th, 2013 at 12:41 PM

        Some of the Obamanites are talking about an expedition to the sun to place some carbon taxes on it. Martin Bashir mentioned that on his show last night — right after he complimented Sarah Palin.

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        • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:44 PM

          no carbon on the sun, its hydrogen and helium right?

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          • ss26mar December 12th, 2013 at 12:45 PM

            Sssh! — don’t tell them that they will label you a racist!

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    • jeffersonian_nc December 12th, 2013 at 12:40 PM

      less than $1 Billlion

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  106. Gary Pifer December 12th, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    I was in High School, when they told us we were all going to freeze to death. So it was Nixon’s fault.

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    • ss26mar December 12th, 2013 at 12:42 PM

      Naw it was Bush’ fault — the teachers were wrong.

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    • TheSharpenedPen December 12th, 2013 at 12:45 PM

      Notice though that the media tried to bury this story and every other that came out of the 1970s talking about a coming ice age and ‘global cooling’?

      The media talking heads tried to claim that ‘global cooling’ alarmism from the 1970s was nothing like the ‘global warming’ alarmism of the 1990s because there wasn’t the manufactured “consensus” about it that you have today with global warming.. err climate change.

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  107. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    74 was right after the energy crisis, the solution was to hang 2 traffic lights at every intersection!!!! they doubled down on the electric baby

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  108. redneckkk December 12th, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Where was the choomer in chief in ’74?

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  109. obamaisacorn December 12th, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    liberalism says whatever it needs to say to move the USA destruction ball forward. Obama calls it taqyiia.

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  110. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    just think man, oil companies can go back and frack oil wells shut down in 74 and get more oil baby

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    • ss26mar December 12th, 2013 at 12:47 PM

      You are fracking kidding — right?

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  111. gearbox123 December 12th, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    LOL. In twenty years it’ll be something else, probably cooling again. Only one thing is certain – whatever happens, it will be the fault of Western civilization.

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    • TheSharpenedPen December 12th, 2013 at 12:50 PM

      That’s the narrative they need to redistribute the world’s wealth and centralize as much power as possible in the hands of central bankers. Everything else: warming, cooling, ‘climate change’ is just fine tuning for the excuse they’ll need to sucker us all in.

      Oh look at all those filthy smoke stacks and all of that hacking smog in China: great job cleaning up the environment there you globalist pukes.

      You see the environmentalists even contradict themselves – ship all the factories to China because of western exploitation. What happens next? Why environmental devastation, slave labor, and the biggest agenda item, lower wages in the west. It’s lose, lose.

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  112. obamaisacorn December 12th, 2013 at 12:48 PM

    non of the global warming BS is true. its simply a tool to redistribute other peoples wealth to someone who does not deserve it. (see obamacare)

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  113. obamaisacorn December 12th, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    libs say: its a fact that scientists voted for global warming…freezing…change. That’s what a scientific consensus is – a vote. And they keep changing their vote. tomorrow they could vote for global acid rain, and that will be reported as consensus of fact if enough of them vote for it. That’s our new liberal “science”.

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    • TheSharpenedPen December 12th, 2013 at 12:55 PM

      And those scientists who don’t go along, get their grants yanked, their papers buried, and are labeled charlatans and quacks, even though there isn’t room enough at the United Nations to even discuss the creation of more charlatans and quacks than we have already.

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    • Brian Sciullo December 12th, 2013 at 1:15 PM

      I have a question you don’t trust scientists because they use science? But you will believe the fossil fuel companies because they don’t have an agenda? The fossil fuel companies have fought every restriction in air and water quality standards. Fought against fuel efficiency standards. Remember Drill baby Drill. Even after the Fossil Fuel industry time and time again is proven to be only motivated by money. It doesn’t matter how many times they have proven to be not trustworthy you still support them over scientist. You folks go as far to say that Scientist are only motivated by money so they can’t be trusted but The Fossil Fuel companies have your best interest at heart I don’t understand your foggy train of thought.

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      • Rob Hobart December 12th, 2013 at 3:16 PM

        When did anyone mention fossil fuel companies?

        You DO know the oil companies provide extensive funding to “green” energy projects, and fund the organizations and universities that support AGW, don’t you?
        Don’t you?

        You’re just throwing out the usual ad hominems and deflections.

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  114. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    but 1973 was the last great year for rock n roll

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    • ss26mar December 12th, 2013 at 12:53 PM

      When did “Bat Outta Hell” come out — 1976? that was the last great R&R album.

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      • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:54 PM

        oh please

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        • ss26mar December 12th, 2013 at 1:31 PM

          Okay i relent when did “thriller” come out?

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  115. Vasco DeGama December 12th, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    it’s funny (more sad) to watch “experts” talk with absolute conviction about things like global warming. they are the same type of “experts” who insisted that the earth was flat, the sun revolves around the earth and that going faster than 24 miles per hour would result in asphyxiation as all the oxygen would be pushed out of the way….

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  116. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    in 74, Nixon was still working hard to get us out of Vietnam that Johnson “D” got us into

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    • ss26mar December 12th, 2013 at 1:01 PM

      To be serious for a moment — You got the D right but it wasn’t Johnson it was Truman when he approved The Japanese Army (JIF) to control Indochina until France could regain its colony then approved the French Indochina struggle against the Vietminh. Ike approved the North/south split then reluctantly inserted a few advisers and observers; JFK made it into a holy war to stop the “ungodly communists”; Johnson made it into an ego thing and Nixon ended it all.

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  117. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    man, 1974 no rap music

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  118. crazydog December 12th, 2013 at 1:04 PM

    I remember the National Geographic predicting the new ice age…..now chicken little squaks global warming, err climate change….God has a funny way of making the wisdom of man look futile!

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  119. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 1:14 PM

    1974, chicks still had monster Woodstock bushes, yuk

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    • ss26mar December 12th, 2013 at 1:18 PM

      Whoa — I liked those bushes! — beat the Mary Jane hair of the fifties and dirty hair of the sixties. My girlfriend took an half hour each day to do that hair.

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      • CJP December 12th, 2013 at 3:01 PM

        Big fan of the 80′s bush here … not hairy ape but definitely not the pedophile bare skin that poses as porn these days.

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  120. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 1:18 PM

    was 74 the year “from the mars hotel” came out?

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  121. GlobalClimateCop December 12th, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    Global warming is undeniable! Let us get rid of all fossil fuels and build nuclear reactors everywhere. When global warming brings on the new ice age (it must be true, I heard it on tv) we can let the reactors melt down, reversing it all back to global warming, and then… I’m getting a headache…

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    • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 1:20 PM

      but oil is abiotic not fossil?

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      • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 1:21 PM

        and natural gas burns clean

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  122. larrytxn December 12th, 2013 at 1:21 PM

    Climate Change, Global Warming…when the weak-minded realize the fraud (especially Algore) that has been pulled on them…they will hunt these crooks down dogs and torches. It’ll be fun to watch, we’re talking a good pay-per-view event. So it goes.

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    • ss26mar December 12th, 2013 at 1:23 PM

      I am already booked up in January with my pitchfork for the Obama overthrow once the Obamanites realize that someone else paying for their healthcare means they themselves have to fork over some cash.

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  123. Dan December 12th, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/12/12/flashback-1974-ncar-blamed-dramatic-climate-anomalies-on-growing-arctic-ice-called-global-cooling-the-new-norm-2013-warmists-blame-climate-disasters-on-melting-arctic-ice/

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  124. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 1:27 PM

    but the sun light we get today is 100,000 years old coming from the center of the sun, is that a factor?

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  125. Nobsvet December 12th, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    This is more evidence that shrewd politicians know they can gain power by scaring people. When it comes to the climate, it is what it is. Don’t let people get power over you by using your fear.

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  126. Danny December 12th, 2013 at 1:29 PM

    http://www.skepticalscience.com/ice-age-predictions-in-1970s.htm

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  127. War_Machine2 December 12th, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    I think we are on the verge of going back to the old global cooling theories. Funny thing is a bunch of the braindead koolaid drinkers will leap from GW and get right on board with Man Made Global Cooling. They are just so nutty all you can do is laugh at them.

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    • ss26mar December 12th, 2013 at 1:35 PM

      Its the Chinese and Indians that put so much Carbon in the air that its blocking the sunlight; now with the sunspots at a minimum plus add all of the volcanic eruptions it really causes some change; ergo we reversed the global warming to global cooling just like the wars in the 20th century did; add also we cleaned up the air in Calif — well you get the point…

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      • Jonus Grumby December 12th, 2013 at 1:39 PM

        Well, you don’t.

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        • ss26mar December 14th, 2013 at 1:31 AM

          it was a little bit tongue in cheek… sorry you didn’t get it as well

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      • nickshaw December 12th, 2013 at 2:58 PM

        So, basically, you’re saying we’re screwing up a natural cycle.
        From the highs of the Medieval Warm Period (higher than today) to the lows of the Little Ice Age and now that we’re warming up again you object to “carbon” in the air?
        Obviously, it’s you that doesn’t “get the point”.
        Or do you think the Indians and Chinese were responsible for the Little Ice Age?

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        • ss26mar December 14th, 2013 at 1:30 AM

          it was a little bit tongue in cheek… sorry you didn’t get it

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  128. ss26mar December 12th, 2013 at 1:37 PM

    Lunch is over — back to truth, justice and the American way struggle…

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  129. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    but oil is abiotic and as natural as water

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  130. Anamericanvet December 12th, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    In my humble opinion who cares?
    If man or nature destroysthe planet and all life dies it will just start over.
    There have been five mass earth extinctions
    we know about. Earth came back, life
    came back.
    We are just arrogant to think
    that we are somehow special and should survive at all cost. We believe that mankind is unique and must survive.
    Well if that is correct and there is a God then he will not allow it
    to happen. If he does let it happen then either way there is nothing we can do
    about it.
    I myself believe he will let us perish only because those in charge that are
    preparing for the end of days are selfish.
    All governments plan for survival but only the
    survival of the government and those they choose are worthy enough to go with
    them, but not all of the general population.
    Maybe God will save us if our government makes a plan to save all the people not just their sorry butts.
    He looks at how selfish and greedy we become and says, let it happen I give up, I
    tried. He will wash his hands of us and work on a different planet and those people.
    That’s what I would do if I were him.
    Whatever one believes if it happens there is nothing we can do about it, may delay for a few years but it will happen again.
    Once it does happen and all life dies, does it really matter then what caused it?
    I say just forget it hang on enjoy the ride and stop worrying about things you
    have no control over.

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  131. Anamericanvet December 12th, 2013 at 1:43 PM

    What I do know about the USA and our leaders is this. If they were there when Christ was crucified they would of charged him for the cross and the nails and taxed his family for the cost of his execution.

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  132. Rick Carver December 12th, 2013 at 1:56 PM

    I blame the Polar Bears. Damn Polar Bears.

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    • nickshaw December 12th, 2013 at 2:51 PM

      I recently watched a BBC special about a huge iceberg (24 miles long approximately) that has been floating around the Arctic for 5 years and traveled nearly 3000 miles.
      Note that, it has been floating, away from land (or ice covered land) for 5 years.
      They went to investigate the ‘berg this year and found it and the waters surrounding it infested with polar bears! So many that they had to keep armed guards out for their brief forays onto the ice.
      Weird, eh? Seeing as they are dying off n’ all!
      So, you’re right.
      It’s probably the bears. ;-)

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  133. Snarflerator December 12th, 2013 at 1:58 PM

    Matt Drudge really loves this site. This site is complete fucking bullshit and all of you who believe it are complete fucking idiots.

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    • EllieEnlightened December 12th, 2013 at 2:05 PM

      CIte please.

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      • Snarflerator December 12th, 2013 at 2:09 PM

        Doesn’t matter. I know the circle of arguments you people use. It’s utterly pathetic. Were I even to provide a source, you wouldn’t read it. You deniers are a special breed of fucked.

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        • CJP December 12th, 2013 at 2:36 PM

          Hey snarflerator…what kind of car do you drive?

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          • nickshaw December 12th, 2013 at 3:01 PM

            I’m betting he’s not old enough to drive.

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          • CJP December 12th, 2013 at 3:13 PM

            No He’s old enough He has good spelling and good grammar. Today’s youth couldn’t do that. But that doesn’t preclude the fact that he lives in his mommy’s basement play World of Warcraft most of the day and posts here just to take a break from WoW. He has bought in to the lie and can not be swayed with logic or common sense. He sees a video posted on line and believes everything he’s told to.

            So I am guessing….an ’83 Honda Civic.

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        • Rob Hobart December 12th, 2013 at 3:13 PM

          In other words, you have no evidence and no argument.

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        • blufaerie78 December 12th, 2013 at 6:04 PM

          No one wants to read Father Gore’s website.

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    • Guest December 12th, 2013 at 2:31 PM

      You mean the arguments put forth using real data, by real scientists & climatologists, such as wattsupwiththat.com? I am an electrical engineer and an atheist. While climatology is not my fote, I have the capability of understanding the data presented from both sides and I can tell you 1 certainty, the variability is the so called “science” put forth by the IPCC is so vast… Just an ounce of basic scientific scrutiny blows so many holes in it, it becomes laughable, yet you idiots believe in it simply because it’s proponents say it’s “science”. Yoiu can take the most conservative AGW model, plug in known datum from early in the industrial revolution and it, the most conservative, predicts a temp around 3°C hotter for the present, than it is now. The most whack-job model predicts 7°. Either are ridiculous. So you can curse all you want, I doubt you have capability of understanding how to poor piss out of a boot with the instructions on the heel, much lees any science, what so ever.. but you keep beating that “Denier” drum, just like your handlers brainwashed you to.

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    • Justin December 12th, 2013 at 2:34 PM

      You mean the arguments put forth using real data, by real scientists & climatologists, such as wattsupwiththat.com? I am an electrical engineer and an atheist. While climatology is not my forte, I have the capability of understanding the data presented from both sides and I can tell you 1 certainty, the variability is the so called “science” put forth by the IPCC is so vast… Just an ounce of basic scientific scrutiny blows so many holes in it, it becomes laughable, yet you idiots believe in it simply because it’s proponents say it’s “science”. You can take the most conservative AGW model, plug in known datum from early in the industrial revolution and it, the most conservative, predicts a temp around 3°C hotter for the present, than it is now. The most whack-job model predicts 7°. Either are ridiculous. So you can curse all you want, I doubt you have capability of understanding how to pour piss out of a boot with the instructions on the heel, much lees any science, whatsoever.. but you keep beating that “Denier” drum, just like your handlers brainwashed you to.

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    • nickshaw December 12th, 2013 at 2:43 PM

      The site presents two different arguments (polar opposites, you might say) from “reputable” sources, the ones your kind depend on, that reach the same conclusion.
      I fail to see where this site is “bullshit”.
      But, I do see a warmista in panic mode!

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    • obozo_the_gelded_clown December 12th, 2013 at 2:51 PM

      Snarf: I’m sure that the computer you typed this on was run by wind power, right?

      I’ll light a tire fire in your honor tonight. Hopefully, the oceans will rise just enough to drown your pea brain and raise the overall human IQ by about 10 points….

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    • Rob Hobart December 12th, 2013 at 3:13 PM

      In other words, you have no actual response, so you’re just shouting and name-calling.

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    • des111168 December 12th, 2013 at 4:00 PM

      Your mom is gonna be mad when she finds out you were using her AOL again.

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    • BenGladden December 12th, 2013 at 4:12 PM

      Why are you so angry? Are things not going your way? Like maybe the average temperature of the earth. LOL!

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    • BenGladden December 12th, 2013 at 4:12 PM

      Why are you so angry? Are things not going your way? Like maybe the average temperature of the earth. LOL!

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  134. Bill December 12th, 2013 at 2:01 PM

    The liberal, leftist, anti-American, socialist crowd always have some type of global disaster on the horizon for which we must relinquish our freedoms and our money. The list is extensive, but here are a few: Global cooling, acid rain, depletion of the rain forest, population control, nuclear annihilation, global warming. The real global threat/disaster are the liberal leftist types. I give you algoreleone as an example.

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    • blufaerie78 December 12th, 2013 at 6:01 PM

      What ever happened to acid rain? it was all the rage in the 80′s.

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  135. BikerBen December 12th, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    At this point, you have to ask yourself, if they continue this bs and attempt to introduce some sort of UN “carbon tax”, i.e. a tax to redistribute wealth throughout the world, what sort of action are you willing to take? Or, have we become a nation of sheep?

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  136. EllieEnlightened December 12th, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Only one Almighty controls the climate. How could anyone be so smug to think they can?

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    • bluesky December 12th, 2013 at 2:11 PM

      Last vs. 7th chapter of Genesis.

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  137. Eric December 12th, 2013 at 2:07 PM

    Those must have been some impressive satellites we were
    throwing up for the first time in 1997. . .that could not only see back before
    1974, but give detailed findings on climate change!

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Observing_System

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  138. bluesky December 12th, 2013 at 2:10 PM

    We’re in the middle of a global warming freeze.

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  139. TheBearPortagee December 12th, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    This is not science.
    It is Chicken Little scare-mongering for one purpose – to legitimize the encroachment of governrment into our daily lives from sunrise to sunset.
    Hail Caesar! Glory to the State.
    Rob us, O Leaders
    Demean us, O Journalists
    Watch us, O Gestapo
    Mislead us, O Science.

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  140. libknocker December 12th, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    What a waste of an education for all these “expert scientists” from the president on down.

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  141. Ali Von Goldberg December 12th, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    Follow the money.

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  142. Mister Bigglesworth December 12th, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    One thing is for sure, whatever eventually happens, the planet (Earth) will still be here. It was here before we got here and it’ll be here after we blow ourselves off of it. It’s our own derrieres that these use idiot environmentalists are “pretending” to try and save with useless, made-up facts and doom.

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    • blufaerie78 December 12th, 2013 at 5:53 PM

      Then the dolphins will take over the world!

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  143. kirb December 12th, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    Obama just keeps defecating on the Bible!

    Squirt here… a squirt there… squirt, squirt, squirt!

    We need to tell him to quit dirtying our precious book!

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  144. binthere222 December 12th, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    REMEMBER WHAT ELSE WAS HAPPENING IN THE 70s ? They called it NUCLEAR WINTER
    The US was funding and developing the NEXT generation of Nuclear Deterrent, MIRVs, IRBMs, Stealth and Cruise Missile Tech.
    Of course the Anti American propaganda machine had to gin up something to justify their attack. They used “Nuclear Winter” as the tool.
    Today “global warming/Climate change” is the Tool.
    Like Stalin Said, always tell the BIG lie, some percentage of people are like sheep, will believe anything and bleat it out to others.

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  145. diggiodiggi December 12th, 2013 at 2:53 PM

    It’s the SUN stupid.

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    • BenGladden December 12th, 2013 at 4:02 PM

      Yeah, the Socialists of the United Nations.

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    • T S December 12th, 2013 at 4:36 PM

      I swear the warmers could be sitting under a hot lamp and still blame the cars outside for the fact that they were getting warm.

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  146. T S December 12th, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    In around 1972 the teachers in my grade brought us all together in the gym and told us that we were about to watch a very important movie about a grave danger that faced us all. The movie showed, with great drama and certainty, how in a decade the air would be unbreathable and the pollution would block out enough of the sun to cover the globe in ice. We were doomed! I was truly scared.

    But, I don’t recall anything predicted happening.

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    • BenGladden December 12th, 2013 at 3:59 PM

      Yeah, teachers and professors have always tried to brainwash kids with fear. Fortunately, the kids tend to grow up and wise up.

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  147. diggiodiggi December 12th, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    Barbara Boxer and others like her said the arctic would melt and the mountains would not have any snow by now. Fortunately, Obama is ruler now and he has saved the patterns of the solar system.

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  148. staff office December 12th, 2013 at 3:06 PM

    It’s “climate change” so now the stupid liberals can wine about a blanket statement something there comfortable with. Never let facts get in the way of a good story,.

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  149. John Whalen December 12th, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    The Al Gore school of environmental lying will play the sky is falling game any which way they can.

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  150. ObamagsmLibMedia December 12th, 2013 at 3:11 PM

    Liberal WarmMongering Globalphobes

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  151. Throbo December 12th, 2013 at 3:14 PM

    Scientist are stupid, Rush Limbaugh is smart

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    • BenGladden December 12th, 2013 at 3:49 PM

      What does Rush Limbaugh say about global warming? I haven’t heard. But I have heard what Dr. Richard Lindzen, Dr. Judith Curry, Dr. Roy Spencer have said. Those are just 3 of many climatologists who are skeptical of catastrophic man-made global warming. But you don’t have to be influenced by what someone else says to be skeptical. All you need is to be observant and a critical thinker.

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      • blufaerie78 December 12th, 2013 at 5:51 PM

        but chances are Limbaugh has more common sense that all the “global warming” scientists put together.

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  152. dudeintexas December 12th, 2013 at 3:17 PM

    This porridge is too cold, too hot, just right…

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  153. desselle0010 December 12th, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    Just remember these researchers relay on government funded research programs to justify their jobs. If global warming is there the money is then….. here you go.

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  154. Steve December 12th, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    “Can we just call it Global Stuff and get on with the wealth redistribution?” said all the socialists….

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  155. Natual December 12th, 2013 at 3:33 PM

    GLOBAL WARMING MAKES THINGS COLDER…wetter, drier, foggier, clearer, earthquakes, tornadoes, hurricanes, tsunamis, traffic jams, bad hair days…….ALL GLOBAL WARMING!!!
    VOTE DEMOCRAT BECAUSE OPRAH SAYS SO

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    • blufaerie78 December 12th, 2013 at 5:49 PM

      don’t forget it makes ppl more violent and causes autism.

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  156. Narcissus December 12th, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    I feel my globes warming as I type.

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  157. Rayone December 12th, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    Questions for cowardly lying Democrats……
    Is Climate Change manmade like Global Warming was “manmade”?
    Why did Democrats have to change the name from global warming to climate change, if Global warming wasn’t a ridiculous lie?
    Should we now believe the ridiculous lie because Democrats gave it a new name?
    You pathetic cowards can’t even keep your lies straight!

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  158. John Galt December 12th, 2013 at 3:39 PM

    Ya know what it is? Weather!

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  159. PTParks December 12th, 2013 at 3:41 PM

    These climate loons would have been burnt at the stake back in the old country.

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    • FifeAndDrum December 12th, 2013 at 3:54 PM

      I’m thinking drowned (because of the greenhouses gases emitted by burning).

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  160. Texas Jack December 12th, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    In the mean time, Al Gore is headed out to one of his seaside mansions traveling in his G2B Gas Hog Gulfstream.

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    • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 4:26 PM

      the GII a fuel burner, yeah baby

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      • Texas Jack December 12th, 2013 at 4:33 PM

        Carbon Foot Print with a multiplier of a 1,000

        Baby….

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        • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 4:38 PM

          and so loud it invented the stage noise

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  161. Alec Stuart December 12th, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    I wasn’t here in the 70s, but my family’s recollection is that the winters of that decade were pretty brutal at times. Even the 80s, which I do remember, had colder winters than what I remember having in the later 90s and early Oughts. Clearly the winters had moderated substantially in many parts of the country in those years. Was that mankind’s fault? I am skeptical.

    Now that cold seems to be making a comeback, I am more convinced that ever that what we have seen over the last 40 years of “man-made climate change” hysteria is nothing more than Nature’s cyclical behavior. Climate is always changing. No one with more than two functioning brain cells disputes that. It’s the cause that is under dispute.

    But as others have pointed out, it isn’t really about the environment, is it? Not to the people at the top perpetuating this scam. It’s about control – nothing more, nothing less.

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  162. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    what did the satellites show a million years ago?

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  163. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    was it the blizzard of 78 that’s still a record?

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  164. dw December 12th, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    everything in seasons and cycles. sometimes warm, sometimes cold. it’s no big deal. trying to measure something as immensely old as the Earth with our tiny lifetimes is silly.

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  165. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 4:30 PM

    I sure wish cows would fart more im freezing

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  166. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 4:34 PM

    during this holiday season please remember to give to the venetian blind

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  167. numbercruncher1 December 12th, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    Back when this Global Warming science stuff first started to take route, I remember reading this article and writing…so what we warm the planet a few degrees better than the global cooling. Got a B on the paper. I really never bought into the whole myth but I thought it was a pretty good theory. At the end of the day I was advocating the use and exploration of more energy so that we could better warm the planet from the coming Ice Age.

    For the record I do not buy into the myth of Anthropogenic Global Warming. Models are only good as the inputs, and to actually model the Earth, Sun and Moon is not something you can do in a Lab. While I am not against the study of climate change, a casual scientific mind must understand that these changes have been measured over centuries not decades. Moreover, the temperatures and weather we have experienced today is not significantly more radical than other periods (the media hype is the only change).

    Lastly, the predictive models (e.g. the Hockey Stuck) when compared to reality– go more limp than I would after watching a good porn, and then having the channel accidentally changed to MSNBC where I would see Hillary Clinton’s face. If the predictions came close to reality that would have at least cause for some potential alarm. The fact that the predictions haven’t panned out, should be a message to world economies to ditch the whole government funded green energy crap (Private funding is a whole different matter).

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  168. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 4:36 PM

    mars is having global warming and all we sent there was 1 electric car

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  169. RockDad Rice December 12th, 2013 at 4:40 PM

    Follow the money trail a la Al “Whore” Gore …

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  170. mewp12 December 12th, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    I think I still have the National geographic where they were assured that the next Ice Age was upon us.

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    • HeatherMaeC December 12th, 2013 at 6:50 PM

      was that the one where they proposed coating the ice caps with black coal dust to melt them down?

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  171. John Gerhard December 12th, 2013 at 4:50 PM

    Well, Mark Twain purportedly said, “Everyone talks about the weather, but no one ever does anything about it.”
    Now governments are proposing to do something about it: take away your last penny in taxes, and control every aspect of your personal life.
    How that will improve the weather is anybody’s guess.

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  172. TruthInSpending December 12th, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    These government “scientists” will say anything, do anything to keep the gravy train rolling.

    From Ghostbusters:

    “Do you believe in U.F.O.s, astral projections, mental telepathy, E.S.P., clairvoyance, spirit photography, telekinetic movement, full-trance mediums, the Loch Ness monster, and the theory of Atlantis?

    “If there’s a steady paycheck in it, I’ll believe anything you say.” – Winston Zeddemore”

    Art imitating life.

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  173. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    im so upset I may never masturbate to kaley cuoco ever again, until tomorrow

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    • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 6:01 PM

      well when you wake up hard and don’t use it, it goes to waste and its a SIN to waste ya know. and on judgment day I don’t even want to get left out of heaven on a wasting rap, no way no how man

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  174. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    man opie and Anthony sure upset howard stern

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  175. Anamericanvet December 12th, 2013 at 5:02 PM

    To an environmentalist or politician it does not matter how
    when or where the cold or hot weather is. It will always be man’s fault. Simple
    reason is Mother Nature is a fictional being and therefore cannot be sued
    punished or blamed. They can’t make money off of a fictional person or entity. Can you see donating to a cause or pass a bill
    labeled, “help us stop nature’s misuse of the weather”. No they have to call it
    man’s miss- use. Nature cannot be sued,
    taxed or jailed. So if it’s cold out man caused it if its hot man caused it. It’s
    all about money and power that’s why governments bow down to the
    environmentalists cuz they can see a new tax or fee from it. If a real honest politician
    or leader believed in this crap they would lead by example and, walk not ride
    in a car plane or anything that can cause this man made problem. But no they go
    to the extreme and use more polluting transportation. Why? Because they know it’s a farce.

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  176. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    I was in southern California once, it was raining, huh

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  177. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 5:08 PM

    teenagers sure love beer and pot

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  178. joel1618 December 12th, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    Looks like they’re just trying to stay relevant or something. hehe

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  179. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    the cars only had 2 good albums, their first 2, that was good pothead music

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  180. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    I think the rolling stones peeked on the 72 tour

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  181. vidgamenerd December 12th, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    nothing to see here, just more chicken little clucking it’s fool head off

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  182. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 5:17 PM

    ATWA…..

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  183. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 5:21 PM

    ATWA air trees water animals was invented by the people who murdered Sharon tate

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  184. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    when Onassis married Jackie, you think he insisted on an up the poop shoot clause? you know he wanted to brag to his friends about doing that

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  185. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 5:34 PM

    man, 74, you could drink a big gulp, put salt on fries, smoke a cigarette, have sex without a condom, you know LIVE!!!!

        Reply

    • Justin Case December 12th, 2013 at 7:34 PM

      And the 70′s gave us AIDS, broken homes and druggies. Good going baby boomers. I blame the “greatest generation” but the one question that no one ever asks is how come they get to be called the greatest generation if they gave rise to the worst generation?

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      • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 7:53 PM

        before WWII college was not important, after the war college became mandatory, but the greatest generation got their education free and got paid to go to school. now college burdens their children, grand children with heavy debts….that’s the legacy on that, a heavy price to pay for a change from war time to peace time economy

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  186. SmokeRanch December 12th, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    I love global warming. I’m sitting here cold and I can’t wait for some good ole global warming to happen around April. Then out here in the Sonora Desert it gets hot and the Colorado River gets looking good. Longer hotter summers are good.

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    • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 5:46 PM

      im freezing, and im down in dixie

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      • SmokeRanch December 12th, 2013 at 6:03 PM

        I love Atlanta.

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        • mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 6:24 PM

          Atlanta to me cant really be considered Dixie. its always been like its own thing and big. it just didn’t have time to get caught up in marches, protests, it has always been ahead of its time?

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          • SmokeRanch December 12th, 2013 at 11:22 PM

            Ahhh the truth be told. You are correct in many respects. But there is Stone Mountain, Kennesaw, The Varsity, Georgia Tech, the Braves and a few other things to like. A good friend lives up north in Blairsville and being up in those mountain is wonderful. Maybe I should say Georgia, Alabama, and Tennessee. I’ll never leave Arizona and Nevada. Love my desert.
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  187. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 5:43 PM

    man, so many years, wars “blood for oil” since then, hey so where’s the oil for blood? I aint seen no oil

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  188. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    in 74 we didn’t have people doing sign language when a politician spoke, real or fake sign language, and yet we were informed

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    • Justin Case December 12th, 2013 at 7:29 PM

      That is because you can hear.

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  189. ReadyToMoveOn December 12th, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    So, when it gets warmer, that’s “man made climate change” and if you don’t want the sky to fall, you must hand over vast treasure and power to the AlGores.

    And when it gets colder, that’s “man made climate change” and if you don’t want the sky to fall, you must hand over vast treasure and power to the AlGores.

    If it gets dryer, that’s “man made climate change” and if you don’t want the sky to fall, you must hand over vast treasure and power to the AlGores.

    Conversely, if it gets more humid, that’s “man made climate change” and if you don’t want the sky to fall, you must hand over vast treasure and power to the AlGores.

    When it gets dark at night…light in the morning… you know what you have to do!

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    • Justin Case December 12th, 2013 at 7:28 PM

      Now your starting to get it. That will be $1,000.00 please.

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  190. jerome December 12th, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    the sky is falling the sky is falling

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  191. jjr5268 December 12th, 2013 at 6:21 PM

    I remember “the ice age is coming” garbage before the global warming garbage. It is unusually cool here this month……

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  192. Richard_Wiggler December 12th, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    heads i win
    tails you lose.
    can’t go wrong with that.

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  193. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 6:25 PM

    they say prostitution is a victimless crime, oh yeah then where’s my wallet? who’s got my wallet?

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  194. MeezaThinker December 12th, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    History is replete with examples of “scientists” acting badly. These are the same people who used to “bleed” people to cure their illnesses. Give them a computer and they think they can tell you the day the world is going to end. Add that the environmental wacko left has almost completely infiltrated academia, and this global warming / cooling / climate change nonsense is what you get.

    Just laugh at them. Anyone of reasonable sensibility already does…

    And for goodness sake, vote their leadership / coconspirators out of Washington.

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  195. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    why do liberals hate Nixon? he gave them the EPA with all its regulating power on a silver platter?

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    • Justin Case December 12th, 2013 at 7:26 PM

      Liberals would hate Obama if he had an R after his name.

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    • TheBruce December 12th, 2013 at 10:10 PM

      Liberal thought is based on emotion, not logic. They look for the “D” or “R” in front of a person’s name and go on mental autopilot after that.

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  196. Johnat8500 December 12th, 2013 at 6:44 PM

    It’s THE weather sometimes it’s hot sometimes it’s not what’s the bog deal ?

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    • Justin Case December 12th, 2013 at 7:25 PM

      OH COME ON!!!!!!! How the heck do you expect us to sale that crappy idea? There is no money in honesty. No, that will never work.

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      • nickshaw December 14th, 2013 at 12:29 PM

        ;-)

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  197. mikemoair2 December 12th, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    what carbon footprint was man making when new York city had a mile of ice stacked on it?

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    • carbo December 12th, 2013 at 7:33 PM

      The same one that caused the San Diego area to have glaciers drop lots of rocks on that area. Just go look at the cliffs at Torre Pines beach and you will see them about three feet from the surface about to drop off onto the beach below. They are all smooth from being tumbled by the glacier on their way to California.

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  198. Justin Case December 12th, 2013 at 7:24 PM

    The religion of climatology is a trick one. First you must take an oath to follow god, aka Al Gore and believe anything he says regardless how silly it sounds. Remember this is a faith and to question his divine holiness is to chance eternity in HeII also known as reality.

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  199. Freeland_Dave December 12th, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    And to think, some noteworthy climatologists actually were in favor of dusting the polar icecaps with lamp black to melt the icecaps and generate a warmer climate. Can you imagine what effect this might have had on the man made global warming fear mongering crowd?

    What it proves is that there is always some pseudo-science, liberal, intellectual idiot that will spew this man-made diarrhea with all credibility and there are millions of unthinking dolts that will believe him. Enter Albert Gore, the father of the Internet, millionaire ex-Occidental Oil owner with a zero carbon footprint because he sells off his carbon credits.

    Some people will believe anything as they genuflect and worship the self-stylized god by the name of Albert Gore. Others are just willingly stupid and should know better.

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    • Justin Case December 12th, 2013 at 7:38 PM

      How the hell can you make so much sense in this area and be so far off base on cannabis?

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  200. sanity_in_florida December 12th, 2013 at 7:33 PM

    If you like your global warming, you can keep your global warming. Or cooling.

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  201. carbo December 12th, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    As always, follow the money.

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  202. Al D December 12th, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    A little ice age is in the making. The Vostok ice core data, which stretches back over 400,000 years, clearly points this out. It won’t be long before we’ll all be wishing we had enough fossil fuel reserves in the world to burn just to counter the cooling. Of course, we’ll remain helpless against the drastic climate changes that will be occurring in the coming centuries. The next long-term warming period will occur long after we’ve stopped using fossil fuels. We’ll be depending on thorium reactors, solar panels, and possibly fusion reactors to power the world by then.

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  203. Psalm56Eleven December 12th, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    Evolution and Big Bang theory are lies just like Global Warming Theory. Think about it, and then ask yourself why the entire world is indoctrinated to these false theories through public school. Faith in this gospel of Jesus Christ saves: We are all sinners, but Jesus Christ is God’s Son, who gave His life as full payment for our sins on the cross, was buried three days and then resurrected.

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    • CalgaryAtheist December 12th, 2013 at 9:01 PM

      Jesus was a Roman invention, created in the early 70s by the Flavian dynasty, so Rome would be able to absorb the Jewish lands, and make them bow down to the crown of Caesar. This is why you can find no mention of Jesus, Christians, or anything related to Christianity before Josephus, a Jewish turncoat, created it all.

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      • Psalm56Eleven December 12th, 2013 at 9:35 PM

        Evolution Theory, Big Bang Theory and Global Warming Theory were fabricated over the past several centuries by members of the Rosicrucian secret society who founded and have made up the membership of The Royal Society of London for Improving Natural Knowledge based in England. The Royal Society has had an iron grip on the journal system of science from the beginning, which it has used to completely corrupt the “common knowledge” of the world to keep the masses ignorant. Science is a false religion which requires faith in the doctrine of its priests. I will continue to place faith in the one true God, and His only Son, Jesus Christ. …And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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        • CalgaryAtheist December 13th, 2013 at 2:55 AM

          Ok, if believing in a wine making, walking on water Zombie, whos father was was a magical being living in the sky, and mother a virgin, is easier for you to believe in than hard fact, who am I to argue. Just don’t have your fairy tales taught as fact to children. They’ll believe anything, and most won’t ever bother questioning those lessons. You’re proof!

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  204. Pendy1 December 12th, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    “Enter Albert Gore, … with a zero carbon footprint because he sells off his carbon credits.” Via his carbon credit company, Generation Investment Management.

    “Can you imagine what effect this might have had on the man made global warming fear mongering crowd?” In 1974, we didn’t have a global warming fear mongering crowd, we had a global cooling fear mongering crowd, but yes, I can picture the effect on today’s warmists.

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  205. adamHolland December 12th, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    I blame everything on an uppity jig that is mistakenly accepted as the liberal messiah.

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  206. David Weeks December 12th, 2013 at 8:25 PM

    It was cold in the ’70′s, so the eco-freaks were crying that we were going to have an ice age. They blamed that on coal soot blotting out the sun. In the ’90′s it was warm so the eco-freaks invented “global warming” and blamed it on C02 emissions. Then it started to cool off again so they came up with “climate change” because that covers just about anything. The only thing that all this nonsense has in common is that it is all anti-energy and anti-business and is total nonsense. Thankfully, more people are seeing this scam for what it is.

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  207. John Smith December 12th, 2013 at 8:26 PM

    Global warming is out by carbon tax, no progress, no America energy self supplied crowd. During the Bush years they changed the buzz words to “Climate Change” shortly after UK warming crowd was busted for cooking the data books..

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  208. sayhonkmon December 12th, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    I guess Al Gore has his TONGUE stuck to a FAG POLE somewhere in the Midwest! I’ll bet that he’s wishing for global warming–ha. and no, I did not mis-spell flag.

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  209. choomster December 12th, 2013 at 8:35 PM

    Liberals and environmental whack jobs….LOL jeez

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  210. Poor62 December 12th, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    Those Jimmy Carter fireside chats bring back a tingle. A new ice age was coming, the world’s oil supply would be exhausted by 1990, and natural gas would all be consumed by 2000. Yes those good old days, combined with 16% mortgages and 9% annual inflation. But Jimmy always looked good in his sweaters with the roaring fireplace behind him.

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    • mikemoair2 December 13th, 2013 at 4:29 AM

      and his hint to have proper tire inflation to save gas…..where have I heard that lately?

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  211. MindBender4Liberty December 12th, 2013 at 9:01 PM

    The planet has a cold. We are going to turn into Popsicles. Oops. I mean, the planet has a fever.

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  212. jimmyjones05091968@yahoo.com December 12th, 2013 at 9:16 PM

    And to think, the rest of us call these phenomenon “weather.”

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  213. HughGKnutts December 12th, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    Pop quiz: Which member of IPCC Working Group III stated this in 2010?

    But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole.

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  214. thebigdog December 12th, 2013 at 9:37 PM

    Leftism is a religion and almost always wrong about everything.

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    • Lou Bator December 13th, 2013 at 12:41 AM

      Abortion is one of their sacraments, and public school teachers are their clergy.

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  215. Daniel Munkelwitz December 12th, 2013 at 9:43 PM

    They were for it before they were against it.

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  216. swingvote25 December 12th, 2013 at 10:24 PM

    I saw this very story on MSNBC. lol. jk

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  217. Dwayne Keith December 12th, 2013 at 10:34 PM

    We’ve had global warming since the last (note…last) ice age. The thing that is responsible for 100% of the warmth on this planet is probably the thing responsible for fluctuations in the level of warmth. Seems like common sense…no? Here is what’s really going on: Green is the new Red.

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  218. L_Dave December 12th, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    Green is the new red.

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  219. golfnut6 December 12th, 2013 at 10:49 PM

    The IPCC charter (and mission) is promoting the notion of global warming. They won’t see it any other way. Without some warming in the past 25,000 years we would not have Chicago (and daaaaa Bearssss).

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  220. noseitall December 12th, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    It’s Global Cooling.
    No, wait, that didn’t work…
    It’s Global Warming.
    No, wait, that’s not true anymore.
    It seems Climate is always changing…
    It’s Climate Change!
    Anything that happens, we’ll blame on Climate Change.
    Warm spells, cold spells, hurricanes, no hurricanes,
    floods, droughts, whatever…
    We Win!

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    • Typical Republican December 13th, 2013 at 12:25 AM

      Intelligent rational people look for plausible explanations to issues that raise concern. For example, I fear climate change because we humans require a particular climate in order to survive. Right wing whack jobs like yourself fear a demon with red skin holding pitchfork that supposedly dwells in a dark hot place. It isn’t exactly difficult to conclude that people like you are ignorant and pathetic beyond belief. Save that right wing rhetoric for the next tea party rally. Those people are uneducated enough to believe the stupidity you post. LOL. Have a good day dummy. ;)

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      • noseitall December 13th, 2013 at 2:02 AM

        .

        The library called.

        Your book on bedwetting is overdue.

        .

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      • DVD_Charlie December 13th, 2013 at 3:25 AM

        Nelson Mandela’s Translator for The Deaf makes more sense than you, by the way, Obama Crying Towels are located on aisle three.

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        • Typical Republican December 13th, 2013 at 3:41 AM

          LOL. Go play a DVD Charlie. It’s probably the every day routine you endure since you developed carpal tunnel syndrome giving free hand jobs in the walmart bathroom you work at Charlie. It’s blatantly obvious you aren’t competent enough to contribute to the conversation based on the the stupidity you posted. In other words, it’s time for you to stop pretending people value the opinions you post. You are so lost you’ve become an accomplice to your own self destruction.

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          • RedRover December 13th, 2013 at 4:40 AM

            Sucks to be a hom0s3xcual, doesn’t it?

            All that disease…no love….just fggotry and death.

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          • Typical Republican December 13th, 2013 at 6:38 AM

            LOL. Stop projecting the various sexual proclivities you enjoy so much loser. That phallus massager you call a mouth obviously serves a better purpose then speaking based on the stupidity you post dummy. LOL. Have a good night loser. ;)

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          • DVD_Charlie December 13th, 2013 at 5:43 AM

            Even ObamaCare can’t treat Nose Rot caused by being an Obama Throne Sniffer.

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          • Typical Republican December 13th, 2013 at 6:48 AM

            Do you actually read this stuff before you post it dummy? LOL. It’s quite clear pride and or dignity said bye bye to you a long time ago loser. You are so remedial I almost feel sorry you. LOL. People like you are a complete and total embarrassment to this country. You are too ignorant to realize people like yourself are destroying the great nation. Have a good day dummy. LOL. ;)

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      • RedRover December 13th, 2013 at 4:40 AM

        Adjust yer tinf0il hat, skippy, and take yer medz.

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        • Typical Republican December 13th, 2013 at 6:17 AM

          LOL. I make a point not to take advise from people who can’t spell. Now, I want you to take a deep breath, then repeatedly slap yourself for fifteen minutes. If after fifteen minutes you don’t come to the realization that you are a pathetic uneducated loser, simply repeat those steps until you do short bus. LOL. ;)

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          • JoeBatters December 13th, 2013 at 6:40 AM

            Snob

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      • JoeBatters December 13th, 2013 at 6:39 AM

        @Typical republican. You are a snob. An elitist, arrogant fool. You hide behind your intellect, but because you are filled with such self doubt, you need to demean those who disagree with you. Why? If you intellect serves you so well, you should be confident in your opinions. Yet you are not. That is because you are intellectually lazy. That is handy for globalists who feed upon people like you who can be easily manipulated into mass movements (like global warming).
        Here brainiac, chew on this a while …. “When we believe ourselves in possession of the only truth, we are likely to be indifferent to common everyday truths.”
        ~Eric Hoffer
        Have a good day .. fool ;)

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        • Typical Republican December 13th, 2013 at 6:58 AM

          It’s simply a difference of opinion. If obvious you are just as biased as you claim I am. I actually enjoy reading various opinions on subjects I have concern over. Sometimes it takes a different prospective in order to see the bigger picture. But that is all contingent on how rational and practical the people commenting are. My responses are appropriate based on the comments posted. Just because you disagree doesn’t mean they aren’t accurate. Have a good day.

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          • Pat Orsban December 13th, 2013 at 7:33 AM

            Hey Typ, who would you recommend to believe, The ones that said the Ice Age cometh or the ones that say Meltdown. So
            many climatologists to choose from. The ones in the Church of Global
            Warming say I can buy indulgences (carbon credits) and keep on sinning. I kind of go with
            them. But then, where is all this pesky Arctic Ice coming from . We were assured ten years ago it would be gone by now (leaving a bunch of wet and pissed off Polar Bears).

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          • Typical Republican December 13th, 2013 at 7:40 AM

            LOL. Are you really that committed to the lie that you feel compelled to post the same comment repeatedly on the same article? It only makes people believe you aren’t capable of producing original thoughts, just regurgitating media propaganda. Have a good day.

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      • BDPSU December 13th, 2013 at 6:51 AM

        Yawn…

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        • Typical Republican December 13th, 2013 at 6:59 AM

          Clever short bus. LOL

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  221. Scot McCoy December 12th, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    Same scam differeny decade

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  222. Dave Algonquin December 13th, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    In 1794, when British captain George Vancouver sailed up the Alaska coast, Glacier Bay did not exist. Vancouver saw only a great wall of ice, several miles wide and over 4000 thousand feet thick, where the bay now lies. But by 1879 naturalist John Muir found that the ice had retreated 48 miles up the bay. In the two centuries since Vancouver explored Alaska, the ice receded more than 65 miles, leaving in its wake the spectacular bay that now exists.

    If you believe mankind caused such dramatic warming by creating greenhouse gasses, perhaps you’d care to explain why glaciers nearly a mile thick were retreating so dramatically in the days when the primary form of transportation was horseback or by foot, and the industrial revolution wasn’t yet in full swing in the (few) nations that were industrializing.

    Global warming (and cooling) has been happening on this planet on a massive scale for thousands and perhaps millions of years. There’s really no need for alarm. Unless of course, one profits by raising the alarm.

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    • mikemoair2 December 13th, 2013 at 4:26 AM

      horse farts?

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      • THE KING BE DROWNED December 13th, 2013 at 5:59 AM

        COW FARTS!!!!!

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        • BDPSU December 13th, 2013 at 6:50 AM

          Al Gore’s ultimate nightmare!

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  223. Lou Bator December 13th, 2013 at 12:39 AM

    I remember the coming ice age when I was in high school in the ’70′s…we poo-pooed it then, just as global warming is being poo-pooed now.

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  224. ob1taylor December 13th, 2013 at 1:01 AM

    The headline I remember is “The Iceman commit”

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  225. heynow_1 December 13th, 2013 at 1:06 AM

    We are at war with East Asia….we were never at war with East Asia. Maybe some will pick up on the 1984 reference ;)

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  226. Jerry December 13th, 2013 at 1:14 AM

    The reason for Global Warming fraud is wealth spreading (stealing), therefore facts must be ignored.

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  227. drew.jackson45@yahoo.com December 13th, 2013 at 3:07 AM

    It’s George Bush’s fault

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  228. Tim_Parker_999 December 13th, 2013 at 3:17 AM

    Al Gore invented the internet.

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    • BDPSU December 13th, 2013 at 6:49 AM

      Little did he know that it would eventually be used primarily for porn and cat pictures.

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  229. Zach Morris December 13th, 2013 at 3:49 AM

    Oh for the love of all that is holy!!!!!!!!!!
    People are this stupid?

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  230. RedRover December 13th, 2013 at 4:38 AM

    Godless leftists have their houses built on sand.

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  231. mikemoair2 December 13th, 2013 at 4:39 AM

    thank god for exxon or we would have no whales

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    • nickshaw December 14th, 2013 at 12:17 PM

      There is that. ;-)

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  232. mikemoair2 December 13th, 2013 at 4:42 AM

    hippies wish johnny apple seed had a brother who smoked pot, “joey pot seed” but what are ya gonna do?

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  233. ohh gosh December 13th, 2013 at 5:58 AM

    cold, hot, lol, cold, hot, lol, globalist will push global propaganda…

    It will NEVER be the sun, EVER!

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  234. BDPSU December 13th, 2013 at 6:48 AM

    Cooling! No, Warming! No, Climate Change!

    C’mon, just give us some money that we can waste on useless programs. We deserve it.

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  235. agentm0m December 13th, 2013 at 6:53 AM

    I used to believe all that environmental crap they pushed on me when I was in school (in the 60s). But how many predictions by these environmentalists prove to be wrong before you wake up to the fact they are full of it? It took for me, noticing that pollution was far worse in communist countries yet environmentalists only condemn capitalist countries. Plus their changing on a dime from global cooling to global warming. That’s when I figured out it was all a fraud to scare people into giving money to environmental causes. They are all a bunch of marxists con men in the environmental movement. Don’t believe any of them.

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    • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 7:09 AM

      Sweetheart, we don’t care what you figured out. We care what the climate scientists have to say. And it’s obvious that you don’t have a clue. Stop embarrassing yourself by proving you don’t know what you’re talking about. Thank you.

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      • Typical Republican December 13th, 2013 at 7:26 AM

        Apparently the science of climatology is a lot like sex, everyone thinks they are experts. The world starts to become a scary place when over 90% of the scientists believe climate change exists, yet people are still willing to believe the doubt sold by fox news and various other media propaganda. I guess it isn’t a surprise when you consider most of these ignorant people were and still are Sarah Palin supporters. Have a good day.

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        • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 7:48 AM

          You forgot to add a BATTA-BING!! Whenever you deliver a good B!TCH-SLAP yo need to add a BATT-BING!! I think you enjoy my website, I take no pisoners when it comes to AGW. whostellingthetruth.org/

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          • Dick Sarcastic December 13th, 2013 at 8:12 AM

            I agree, these people also try to tell us that the nuclear waste from Fukashima is going to effect the West coast and Atlantic sea creatures when science hasn’t confirmed that. The nuclear scientist scoffed at the ignorant by saying “the ocean is big” so they could understand. We need to get rid of all those nasty coal fired electrical plants and replace them with clean safe nuclear power. If it was not safe science and the UN would not allow it.

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 8:26 AM

            Sweetheart, wind and solar are the answer. Have you had an estimate on putting solar panels on your roof? On my website I have “LIVE” data on wind and solar, check it out. whostellingthetruth.org/

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          • Dick Sarcastic December 13th, 2013 at 9:09 AM

            Had solar for years sweet cheeks and we have windmills all over my area. I’m glad I could help you get another plug for your web site. So your against nuclear power? Science and the UN, which also support global warming science, are in support of it. They are constantly approving nuclear programs in countrys around the world as long as they don’t produce weapons grade Uranium. So therefore if you don’t accept it you are being selective of what science you choose to believe in.

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 9:35 AM

            Sweetheart that’s the beauty of science. You don’t believe or not believe. The data tells us all we need to know. And the data is conclusive!! AGW IS happening. See how this works?

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 2:52 PM

            There it is again, the bigoted hate site.

                Reply

          • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 3:07 PM

            More spam from a bigot. Why do you insist on showing what a fool you are. Is your “Uncle Richie” persona used to lure little kids into your basement?

                Reply

          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 3:42 PM

            Your site is just a bigots site with a moron as a host. Post your “LIVE” data here or buzz off.

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 5:34 PM

            Sweetheart so you want “LIVE” data? I’m happy to oblidge. Here you go honey. Enjoy!! whostellingthetruth.org/

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          • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 5:35 PM

            Go peddle your bigotry and hate to someone else. You’re too ignorant for me.

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 5:55 PM

            Sweetheart what’s wrong? Was the live data too much for you to handle? Did the “LIVE” data push you close to the edge? Let me push you over, read it again. BATTA-BING!! whostellingthetruth.org/

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          • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 5:59 PM

            I’m not interested in you hyping your failed solar company stock.

            Post 20 names of those scientists in your survey or pi$$-off. Thank you.

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 6:13 PM

            Sweetheart, Solar City is up over 500% for the year. But you call it a failed company, why? What is your idea of success? Posting stuff from Anthony watts? You “simple-folk” are so cute. Thanks for letting me make fun of you. BATTA-BING!!

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          • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 6:26 PM

            It’s down 15% from it’s highs. The Feds are investigating it’s use of Government subsidies.

            Post your list of 25 Scientists from your survey or pi$$-off. See how it works? Thank you.

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 7:15 PM

            Sweetheart, why do you always look for the negative side of things? Solar City is up 500% for the year, but you point out it’s 15% of it’s highs. So what! You don’t understand the “free-markets” do you? You must be very unhappy. You, Sally and Maria should have a party. You can make each other miserable, and sit there and complain about everything, it will be so much fun. Let’s make it a Pay per view event we’ll call it “MISERY LOVES COMPANY” and I’ll make a fortune!!!!! People like watching “simple-folk” like you get in a circular firing squad. BATTA-BING!! Are you in?

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          • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 7:21 PM

            Have you taken any profit yet? You don’t understand that a company that fails to make a profit is doomed. As soon as the government subsidies run out it’s all over.

            You’re miserable enough for everyone. Here you are trying to promote a company without income, you have your life savings in it and you have no idea what fossil fuel company they merged with.

            People are watching you post your ignorance on an open website.

            So, post 25 Scientists from your survey and only those with degrees in the environment or pi$$-off. See how it works? Be specific OKAY?

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          • Dawn Frascone December 13th, 2013 at 7:15 PM

            They haven’t made a profit Honey. I told you not to lose our life savings in a company without a profit. Why are you so lame?

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 5:17 PM

            Your solar company’s in the tank. The Feds are investigating them for fraud. Whostellingthelies.moron

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 2:58 PM

            There’s that morons hate site again.

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 3:41 PM

            “MODERATORS TAKE NOTE!”

            This fool is promoting violence against women.

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        • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 6:46 PM

          Another Fox News hater and low information voter. Duly noted. Maybe you can post the names of 50 of those 90% you mention. Vacant-man can’t. Help your pal out with some verifiable proof. Post only climatologists because they are the only acceptable scientists according to your ignorant friend.

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          • Typical Republican December 13th, 2013 at 10:36 PM

            LOL. What’s worse? The fact that all the names of all the climatologist are easily found on google or the fact you aren’t competent enough to find them? You fox news viewers are basically the most ignorant people in the country. Fox News is excellent at delivering fear and anger into the weak little brain of yours. Fear and anger are motivators for uneducated people like yourself because you suspend and sort of rational judgement because of the emotional state fox news creates for you mindless people. So do everyone a favor and stop pretending you are intelligent enough to contribute. People like you are so lost, you don’t realize you’ve become an accomplice to your own self destruction. LOL. Have a good night dummy. ;)

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          • .. December 16th, 2013 at 3:53 PM

            Vacant-man isn’t competent enough to find them. He keeps referring to them (Like an automaton) but can’t produce any of their names. You didn’t produce any names from the survey either.

            You’re just another hater. People like you (haters) are what’s responsible for the problems in this country.

            You have a nice hate filled liberal progressive night yourself little fella.

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          • Typical Republican December 16th, 2013 at 5:05 PM

            LOL. You ignorant right wing nut jobs always make me laugh. I produce facts, you produce fiction. Don’t get mad at me because you aren’t competent enough to google “facts” dummy. The fact you believe fox news stupidity is only proof of how remedial you truly are loser. LOL. Have a good night dummy. ;)

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      • Pat Orsban December 13th, 2013 at 7:28 AM

        Sweetheart, Which ones? The ones that said the Ice Age cometh or the ones that say Meltdown. So many climatologists to choose from. The ones in the Church of Global Warming say I can buy indulgences and keep on sinning. I kind of go with them. Let me know when you choose which beliefs to adhere to.

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        • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 7:45 AM

          Sweetheart, you “simple-folk” are so cute. Global warming is not like a religion where you believe or don’t believe. The data tells us all we need to know, and it is conclusive. 97.3% of the climate scientists, publishing “peer reviewed” studies on AGW agree that the science is settled and AGW is happening. Any questions?

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 2:59 PM

            More BS from this Bonehead. Post your proof. The study didn’t include 100% of climate scientists, just a couple thousand IPCC flunkies who all cover for each other. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/05/30/global-warming-alarmists-caught-doctoring-97-percent-consensus-claims/

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          • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 3:16 PM

            You keep bringing religion into the subject. You’re a typical AGW cultist. The “peer reviewed” process is flawed and 97% of real scientists admit it.

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 5:22 PM

            Sweetheart, are you all right? Do you just make up what you want? I clearly said global warming is not like a religion where you believe or don’t believe. And then you claim the peer review process is flawed. You “simple-folk” are so cute, and inventive. You just make up whatever you want. BATTA-BING!!

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          • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 5:30 PM

            You constantly bring religion into the discussion when you get your a$$ whipped by far more superior posters.

            Why do you do that?

            Post the names of two dozen scientists in your PHAS survey. Just two dozen or pi$$-off. See how it works? Thank you. I’ll wait.

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      • .. December 13th, 2013 at 3:00 PM

        http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/05/30/global-warming-alarmists-caught-doctoring-97-percent-consensus-claims/

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      • .. December 13th, 2013 at 3:40 PM

        Which scientists? Name a dozen or more and be very specific! Stop embarrassing yourself in public. Post the names of those scientists, thank you.

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  236. hunterson December 13th, 2013 at 7:01 AM

    The climate kooks are obsessed with a climate apocalypse.

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  237. OWilson December 13th, 2013 at 7:32 AM

    “The end is nigh. Give up your worldly good (to us) and ye shall be saved!”
    Second oldest profession.

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  238. Mister Duke December 13th, 2013 at 7:35 AM

    I enjoy reading the comments of the bitter clingers to the global warming/climate change hysteria, professing to be the ones upholding scientific principles and sole proprieters of truth. In reality, anyone who has studied science and understands the scientific method recoiled at the warmists rhetoric that “the science is settled” and “the debate is over.”
    Anyone who knows anything about science knows that the science is NEVER settled, that the debate is NEVER over. Those who are ignoring the evidence that doesn’t square with their precious theory are the unscientific ones, clinging with overheated religious fervor to a failing cause. They take comfort in deriding those who question their beliefs as “deniers” and “anti-science,” while ignoring the fact that the models used by James Hansen, Michael Mann and the other discredited leaders of their movement are being debunked with evidence and facts.
    It’s getting harder and harder to “hide the decline,” isn’t it?

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    • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 7:53 AM

      Sweetheart what do the climate scientists have to say about AGW? I’m willing to bet you have no Idea. Am I right?

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      • Mister Duke December 13th, 2013 at 8:05 AM

        Your condescending manner is consistent with the warmist bitter clingers, and your question is unserious and intellectually lazy. You act as if “the climate scientists” are one entity, all of the same mind and all on board with the failing religion of global warmism. Climate scientists are on both sides of the debate…yes there is a debate…are taking a hard look at the climate models and actual data and coming to the conclusion that the science is not settled. So no, you are not right.

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        • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 8:15 AM

          Sweetheart, I’m not condescending, I’m a B!TCH-SLAPPER!! But You’re right, climate scientists are on both sides of the issue. 97.3% of the climate scientists agree AGW is happening, and 2.7% think it’s not. Who are you gonna stand with. If your kid was running a temperature and 97% of the doctors said we need to take action, would you want another opinion? I hope not. You “simple-folk” are so cute. Thank you

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          • DavVictor December 13th, 2013 at 8:20 AM

            If the earth was actually running a temperature then we might actually consider that analogy.

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 8:29 AM

            Sweetheart, we just had the hottest decade in history. That’s a temperature, for sure!!!!! What are you missing?

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          • DavVictor December 13th, 2013 at 10:05 AM

            I’m NOT your sweetheart and you ain’t my B!TCH so knock it off and stop acting like a queer because I could care less.
            —-

            As for the temp., … TRY HISTORY, not DECADE. You’re selective science is frightening.

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 10:41 AM

            Sweetheart, are you gonna argue the fact that this has been the hottest decade in recorded history? You “simple folk” have a tough time with facts, So I’ll show you some pretty pictures. Let me know if you need help understanding them, okay? https://www.google.com/search?q=world+temperatures&hl=en&prmd=imvns&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=fJuOUPLKC_O-0QH6soH4Ag&ved=0CE4QsAQ&biw=1366&bih=673

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          • DavVictor December 13th, 2013 at 10:50 AM

            You really are stupid and a waste of reading.
            Look at the axis of those graphs then search for the geological estimations.

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          • DavVictor December 13th, 2013 at 10:52 AM

            http://www.citizenceo.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/gunter-bogus-temp-drawing.jpg

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          • DavVictor December 13th, 2013 at 10:58 AM

            http://www.planetseed.com/relatedarticle/temperature-change-history

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 11:54 AM

            Sweetheart, the charts you posted are conclusive proof that AGW is happening. Did you just change your position as a denier, or are you too stupid to understand a Chart? Which is it?

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 11:49 AM

            Sweetheart are you serious? I guess the google charts were too difficult for you, Stop embarrassing yourself by pretending you know what you’re talking about.

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 3:24 PM

            You didn’t bother to look at the charts and what they say or you’re just too ignorant to understand what they say. Either way, you’re just a bonehead and a simpleton.

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 3:30 PM

            The guys just a spammer. He spent all yesterday at CBS posting these exact comments. He’s a child who makes videos in his darkened basement. He calls himself “Uncle Richie” as to lure little children into his basement.

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          • DavVictor December 16th, 2013 at 7:23 AM

            On rare occasion I get sucked in by trolls; everyone does at one point.
            It was easier to stop arguing with the ignorance then continue. ….thanks.

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 2:55 PM

            More BS from this Bonehead. Post your proof. The study didn’t include 100% of climate scientists, just a couple thousand IPCC flunkies who all cover for each other. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2013/05/30/global-warming-alarmists-caught-doctoring-97-percent-consensus-claims/

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 4:57 PM

            Sweetheart why would you embarrass yourself by posting anything from forbes? It’s obvious you didn’t read the article, did you? You “simple-folk” are so cute. Thank you.

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          • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 5:09 PM

            The truth hurts you small minded idiots. Post a dozen or so of your climate scientists from your study or pi$$-off.

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 3:36 PM

            “MODERATORS TAKE NOTE!”
            This fool is promoting violence against women.

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 5:28 PM

            Sweetheart why are you stupid enough to make the assumption that a bitch is a woman? I’m an equal opportunity, B!TCH-SLAPPER I don’t take sides. Moderators take note this person is promoting stupidity. BATTA-BING!!

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          • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 5:32 PM

            Are you so ignorant that you have to use such terms? You really come out at the level of a moron.

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          • nickshaw December 14th, 2013 at 12:09 PM

            Hmmm, from the “votes” here, it appears that it is you getting “bitch slapped”.
            Mind you, reality is something else to your warped, juvenile mind than it is to the rest of the human race.

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          • vacmancan December 14th, 2013 at 12:37 PM

            Sweetheart, you don’t know what B!TCH-SLAPPING is until you watch some of my shows. I use facts and figures something the conservative can’t understand. BATTA-BING Watch, whostellingthetruth.org/

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          • Guest December 14th, 2013 at 6:08 PM

            Richies hate shows that display a hatred for;

            1. Anyone religiouse

            2. Fox News

            3. people who know the truth about the AGW hoax

            4. everyone who disagrees with the fool

            5. People who think Obama lied to them about Obamacare.

            It’s just a hate site that no one really visits.

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          • vacmancan December 14th, 2013 at 6:29 PM

            Sweetheart you claim no one visits my site, however you know it by heart. I’m flattered, thank you. Guys look how I’ve pushed this bonehead over the edge. He’s obsessed with stalking me. What’s wrong joe, why are you so lonely? Did your wife leave you for another woman? Uncle Rich is here to help, tell me your problems and I’ll se what I can do. Okay?

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          • .. December 14th, 2013 at 7:11 PM

            I know you. You’re hate site is just you and your hate and bigotry. You’re projecting your problems with Dawn onto me. Cute. I hope you don’t have any little kids hidden in your basement “Uncle Richie”.

            LMFAO

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          • .. December 14th, 2013 at 7:20 PM

            Hey “Uncle Richie” Did your wife shut you off? I saw your hate site on a Conservative website where they make a complete fool out of your hate messages. You were #1 with the crowd.

            Now, post the names of some of those scientists in the survey you keep quoting. Twenty or thirty will do. Why can’t little Richie boy do one simple thing? Do it or pi$$-off. See how it works troll. ROTFLMFAO

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          • .. December 16th, 2013 at 1:17 PM

            You seem to be infatuated with this guy Joe. If you really need a man then go to the men’s rooms in Danbury. Is this the reason Dianna kicked you out of bed?

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          • .. December 16th, 2013 at 3:19 PM

            Richie, I’m sorry to hear that your wife left you. You stalk me, have been for years. If you need another guy (Joe) to comfort you, go down to the bathhouse you frequent. I’m sure the “Uncle Richie” ploy works on little children. You should do a remote show from the Danbury Bathhouse.

            Thank you.

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          • Yes I'm the famous Joe December 16th, 2013 at 3:29 PM

            Pete, You funny SOB. Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

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          • .. December 14th, 2013 at 7:28 PM

            He gets his a$$ handed to him wherever he posts. He’s a sick, small minded little man. Notice how he never posts any proof except for a few boring websites that don’t prove anything. I’ve been asking him to post some of the names of those 97% but he really doesn’t have any of them. He just keeps parroting the same post all over the internet but can’t back up anything. He’s not smart enough to do that.

            He’s a lonely TROLL.

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      • .. December 13th, 2013 at 2:57 PM

        http://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2013/09/10/terrifying-flat-global-temperature-crisis-threatens-to-disrupt-u-n-climate-conference-agenda/2/

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      • nickshaw December 14th, 2013 at 12:06 PM

        Better, what do railroad engineers have to say about AGW?
        Shall we ask the head of the IPCC?
        BS appealing to authority argument.
        All we’ve come to expect from warnmistas.

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        • vacmancan December 14th, 2013 at 12:33 PM

          Sweetheart, We know that the IPCC has confirmed that AGW is happening, to a 95% certainty, what are you missing? And why would you make a foolish statement like what do railroad engineers have to say about AGW? Why do you deniers always insist on embarrassing yourself, can you explain that to me?

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          • .. December 14th, 2013 at 2:12 PM

            Post the names of those scientists you keep referring to in that survey or pi$$-off. See how it works? Be specific.

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          • vacmancan December 14th, 2013 at 2:26 PM

            Hey, it’s my favorite fruitcake!!!. The denier in chief, Da leader of the doubters. Are to back for more? Are you one of those guys who is into S & M, and loves getting his a$$ kicked? Where are your S & M buddies? Sally & Maria? You guys would make some 3 some!!!! I’ll get the video camera. Put on the coffee. BATTA-BING!!

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          • .. December 14th, 2013 at 2:39 PM

            Still using those same old insults to define your ignorance.whoistellingthetruth.org/.

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          • .. December 14th, 2013 at 3:26 PM

            You were kissing Sally’s ass trying to get a date with her behind your wife Dawn’s back just a couple months ago. You tried the same thing with Maria as well. What’s wrong, Dawn shut you off Richie? ROTFLMFAO

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    • DavVictor December 13th, 2013 at 8:19 AM

      Been saying much the same thing for years now.

      All I can say is that science in our country (USA) seems to more heavily influenced by politics and lib-tards than the actual scientific methodology that we were taught in HIGH SCHOOL (!).

      For a long time just I stood back and read the hypothesis’ and journals but couldn’t bring myself to take sides one way or the other; past 3-5 years I’ve taken the stand that it’s all BS, contrived, and self serving to those who needed to publish in academia.

      Generally speaking, as I’ve known the earth’s climate to be, this issue with warming/cooling is cyclical in nature and probably more influenced by the sun’s radiation than (most) anything we can do. A single volcano can puke out more gases than all of mankind can generate in years. The earth’s natural cycles are so complex and intertwined that I doubt we can ever have accurate models to fully understand the complexities and buffering systems that this world holds.

      A remarkable creation (IMO).

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      • Brian Sciullo December 13th, 2013 at 12:01 PM

        If you can’t refute the science all you have left is to insult scientists. I am so glad you can make these broad statements and say the only ones with an agenda are the scientists. You buy into the arguments made by the fossil fuel companies and pretend that they don’t have an agenda trying to debunk Climate Scientist. Again if the Climate Scientist are wrong fossil fuel companies your livelihood is at stake you have the money disprove it. They cant facts are facts.

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        • DavVictor December 13th, 2013 at 12:04 PM

          Not insulting “Scientists”, just the ones that pretend to be because they cave to academic politics/views.

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        • nickshaw December 14th, 2013 at 12:04 PM

          Typical lefty jumping to stupid conclusions.
          DV didn’t “insult” scientists.
          He stated a fact. Some scientists are driven to publish. It’s their validation as scientists.
          Climate science is full of these kind of “scientists” because the money is flowing faster than Niagara Falls to that particular discipline and you know what money does to the truth, right?

          If you think some don’t fudge their numbers, lie and deceive you really are a sad starry eyed loser.

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          • Brian Sciullo December 15th, 2013 at 10:59 AM

            Why do you fall for this falsehood. Everything that is published is available for review!!! Every chart every statement and all data must be available for review. If they are fudging the numbers, lying and deceiving the info is their for anyone to refute. The information is their for other scientists to challenge the findings. Now if you were a fossil fuel company who’s very existance is being challenged wouldn’t you refute it if you could. They have deeper pockets than anyone!!! They could fund research at 100 times the level that any government grant agency could. Especially the coal companies they see the writing on the wall if they could disprove it they can save their industry!!! Don’t believe the lies that it is happening because it isn’t. Not because the Climate Scientist are lying, fudging or anything else but because the science is sound. Every article you see or nay sayer who writes a book are they scientist NO! Last but no least you say the scientist are driven by money alone!!!! So they are making stuff up to fill their pockets. Can’t you at least grant the same amount of sceptisism toward the fossil fuel companies and the nay sayers of climate change. I mean don’t you think a company or industry would muddy the water or lie to protect their profits. You do not have to go so far back in history to see proof of this. The cigarette companies lied for years. They stood in front of congress and lied out right for years!!! They refuted science proven over and over again using the same arguements!! They didn’t give up even after they were caught in lie after lie. The fossil fuel industry has hired the same company that the cigarette companies used this should tell you something.

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          • nickshaw December 15th, 2013 at 11:29 AM

            “They have deeper pockets than anyone!!! They could fund research at 100 times the level that any government grant agency could.”
            LOL!
            I won’t even bother to refute or discuss everything else you had to say.
            You’re a warmista and I’ve found they are pretty close minded.

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    • Brian Sciullo December 13th, 2013 at 11:54 AM

      You are wrong! There is no debate! Every reputable climate scientist agrees with global warming. Every reputable scientist. Nothing has been debunked. I can prove this statement very easily. The Coal Industry is losing millions every day as electric companies build gas fired power plants. The electric companies see the writing on the wall. The Coal Industry could and would fund unlimited research (more grant money to scientist than you could imagine to protect their business) They would also supply as much money as any one scientist could want to prove clean coal or figure out a way to even marginally clean up the emission from the Power Plants. They can’t there are no scientific papers published refuting global warming. There is no research to clean up coal plant emissions except to funnel it back underground. Contrary to you statement there is no question in the scientific community Global Warming exists. The coal and fossil fuel companies are not at a financial disadvantage in funding research. They are not limited in their political access. They have no limits in their ability to debunk as you say global warming scientifically. Why haven’t they done so scientifically one big and overwhelming reason THEY CAN’T. FACT AND MODELS PROVE TIME AND TIME AGAIN GLOBAL WARMING IS HAPPENING. OVERWHELMING DATA SAYS MANS BURNING OF FOSSIL FUELS HAS NOT CAUSED IT (GLOBAL CLIMATE TEMPERATURE CHANGES ARE NATURAL) BUT WE ARE ADDING TO IT. Final argument any scientist that can disprove Climate Change through Global Warming would be the biggest thing since Albert Einstein. Where are they they could be famous nowhere because FACTS ARE FACTS.

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      • CJP December 13th, 2013 at 5:35 PM

        I’d love to disagree with you but I am freezing my ass off in Chicago

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      • nickshaw December 14th, 2013 at 11:53 AM

        You have “proved” nothing.
        What you have, indeed, proved is that capitalism works (gas is cheaper to use than coal to generate electricity) and that government meddling can be a factor in making people poor (onerous regulations on the coal industry and generating plants that use it).
        That’s redistribution right there.
        Of course, that’s the central theme of the Gorebull warming cult and socialism. Redistribution of wealth.
        Only it’s always the middle class wealth that gets redistributed.

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        • Brian Sciullo December 15th, 2013 at 11:46 AM

          I agree with some of your points! The first gas is now cheaper than Coal. You say government meddling and onerous regulations hurt the coal industry. I say coal was only cheaper because the only factor used to determine the cost was price per ton vs. energy produced. The coal industry never had to factor in the cost everyone paid for the pollution cause by burning the coal. You do not have to believe in global warming to agree that Coal is a dirty energy source. Heavy metals released into the air from buring coal is not refuted from any scientist. Even the coal industry agrees with this. The clean coal myth technology is a myth because everyone could measure the Air Comming out of the stacks and directly measure the effects. I do not call this onerous regulations but regulation requirements based on facts. I agree with your last statement redistrubution of wealth from the middle class. You think it only goes one way from the middle class down. I say it goes both ways from the middle class down and from the middle class up. My proof is the middle class is shrinking, the poor are not getting richer the only ones that seem to be benifiting is the top 10%. In your opinion the liberals are defending the poor. But you actually think the conservatives are defending the middle class. If they are defending the middle class where is the proof of this!! The top 10% are the only ones benfiting since the resession. I laugh at Fox News they act as if Obama is an enemy of the top 10%. If he is their enemy why are they the only ones in recovery? If the Democrates are so agressively beating up the top 10% why is the stock market and corporatorate profits at an all time high!!! The only proof I see is negative the middle class has shrunk since the 70′s. I just can’t believe that people think the Republician party has the interest of the Middle Class. I say both Major Political Parties are completely disinterested in the middle class. I think it is time for class warfare I see nothing wrong with the middle class finally saying enough is enough!! The middle class is the majority, time to forcefully say dead beats time to get off the couch and go to work. Corporations you only exist because we allow you to so pony up. 1% how dare you say that the income you get from your investments should be taxed at a lower rate than the income (the middle class) gets from sweating for it. To show just how crazy and non-logical our current system is the Walton Family (6 people) now have the same net worth as 40% of our entire population. 10% of our nation owns 90% of the nations wealth! They pay 60% of the taxes. The bottom 60% owe less than 1% of the nations wealth. They pay 0% of the taxes. The middle class just 30% of the nation now owe less than 10% of the national wealth but we pay a full 40% of the taxes. Both political parties have deserted the middle class. Both political parties are waging Class warfare agains the middle class. Both are openly hostile to the middle class. The wealthy class has done what they always have done pit the lesser folks against each other to keep their wealth and position. The Democrates always play the middle class for fools because we actually believe in fair play and giving a helping hand to those in need. The middle class finally has to step up and say from both parties time to look out for our best interest. We are paying the lions share of the bills so time to put us first not last.

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  239. A.WASP December 13th, 2013 at 7:41 AM

    The entire global warming colony would probably make more ground if they took up black tar heroin or Acid….Their boyfriends from Africa like Crack …blond crack if tiger’s are any indication :)

    J/K

    Think of global warming more as a pimp / john /whore thing …

    Blond crack and cash for the third world …as long as it s all yours and not mine :)

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  240. vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 8:04 AM

    Why aren’t conservatives, concerned about conserving the planet? Sounds like a conflict of interest, doesn’t it? They believe in things that can’t be proven, like god and angels, and they refuse to believe what is real and provable. That’s why I call them “simple-folk” because they’re so easy to trick. BATTA-BING!!

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    • .. December 13th, 2013 at 2:56 PM

      There’s that Atheist claiming God causes AGW again. How ignorant is this Bonehead?

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      • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 4:59 PM

        Sweetheart I would never be stupid enough to blame AGW on god. Which god would I blame it on? BATTA-BING!!

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        • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 5:08 PM

          You do it constantly. Post your proof or pi$$-off.

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  241. JohnGaltDurham December 13th, 2013 at 8:10 AM

    These people are not scientists, that are grant whores. The will sell whatever opinion the government wants to keep the grant money coming. Just imagine a scientist on the street corner saying, “give me a billion dollars and I’ll show you my hockey stick”. That is who these allleged scientists are. I am not even sure why we are even having this conversation any mote. These people have been caught manipulating the data, and have no credibility.

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    • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 8:22 AM

      Sweetheart only a simple minded bonehead would think climate scientists are grant whores. The one way a scientist can become famous, is to prove other scientists wrong. So if you have proof let’s see it. Be specific and please name your sources, so we can make fun of you. Thanks.

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      • JohnGaltDurham December 13th, 2013 at 4:45 PM

        Sure how about Nasa, whose own data shows 1934 as the hottest year on record:
        http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/GlobalWarm1999/Images/1999_fig3.gif

        Let’s see how about the all mighty ICEC at the UN who’s own report recently stated there has been no global warming in over 15 years:
        http://www.cbsnews.com/news/controversy-over-un-report-on-climate-change-as-warming-appears-to-slow/

        How about the fact that they refer to “Scientific Consesus”. I am not sure where you studied science, but there was Hypothesis, Theory, and Law. My science teacher must have skipped the chapter on consensus.

        How about the fact we have recorded over 2000 record low temperatures in the U.S. this past week and only about 60 record highs?

        http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/12/13/over-2000-cold-and-snow-records-set-in-the-usa-this-past-week/

        How about the 1970′s articles on the coming ice age due to pollution many from the same “scientists” or grant whores as I refer to them who are predicting global warming today:
        http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/01/global-cooling-compilation/

        Shall I go on? I can do this all day. Any person with an ounce of common sense can cut through this crap in a heartbeat. Alas, to quote Voltaire “common sense is not so common these days.”.

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        • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 5:43 PM

          Sweetheart, do read anything other then the headline when you post something? Obviously not. Because if you read it, you wouldn’t have posted it. The worst part is you make a fool out of yourself by posting something from Anthony watts. You “simple-folk” are so cute. Thank you, BATTA-BING!! You need a reality check, watch my shows. whostellingthetruth.org/

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 5:48 PM

            Truth hurts you ignorant spammers.

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          • JohnGaltDurham December 15th, 2013 at 6:44 PM

            Sorry, did not realize until now that you are part of the problem no the solution. Sorry I wasted my time confusing you with facts and common sense. I forget sometimes that is like kryptonite to angry white liberals like yourself who are bent on the destruction of America so your ilk like Plato, can make yet another failed atempt at a eutopean society, where in your mind you think you will have a shot at being a success, rather than a vacuum cleaner salesman. Sorry for wasting your time, but maybe there were some intelligent people who saw it and maybe it helped them. You can go back to your little pity party now in your mom’s basement.

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          • vacmancan December 15th, 2013 at 7:31 PM

            Sweetheart, you’re a denier. That’s fine. You would rather stand with the 2.7% do the climate scientists who are deniers, that’s fine. One last question. Are you a creationist?

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          • .. December 16th, 2013 at 1:14 PM

            Post the names of the scientists who agree with you or pi$$-off. Do you keep insisting that God creates Global warming?

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          • Guest December 16th, 2013 at 1:33 PM

            Post the names of all those scientists you keep referencing or pi$$-off. See how it works?

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          • JohnGaltDurham December 19th, 2013 at 10:40 AM

            And you are a Zealot the likes of Joe McCarthy. You demonize and attack the opposing point of view. You have no proof of man made global warming while there is overwhelming evidence it doesn’t exist. Evidenced in your very own words talking about percentage of scientists (a.k.a the non-grant whores). All the science classes I took talked about Hypothesis, Theory, and Law. There was never talk of consensus. Look at the head of science for the state of Colorado who was fired for expressing his doubt in man made global warming. Why would more than 2.7% of scientists stand up and say what they believe for fear of their jobs? Joe McCarthy would be proud of you and your ilk.

            On the other hand I have denied nothing. I just look at the facts and have determined there is no science behind anything you claim. I look at the manipulated data, the hockey sitck that if you go back on a longer time line just becomes a stick. The total lack of controls in this data, and the deletion of data that does not fit the narrative. There is no science here. You can not even use scientific terms to describe what you belive. This has become your religion, and you are a zealot.
            I do not hope to change your mind you are obviously pigheadedly stuck in your dementia just as Joe McCarthy was. I only hope that anyone who reads your threads will see this and do some research on their own, and discover your are full of merde as the French say. The truth is out there, but it is not in your mind or on your web site you are out here pimping. The ice caps are not only not melting, but at their greatest depth and bredth in modern history. Al Gore said we would see Hurricanes of epic proportion, and yet we just emerged from one of the lowest hurricane seasons in modern times. Nothing your “scientists” have predicted has come to pass any more than the predictions of the wizards and soothsayers of the Medieval times did.

            I do not understand your position, but I do understand your mental defect and realize you believe what you believe just like the half naked man standing in the street talking to himself. For that I can only offer my sympathy.

            As far as my beleifs, you would not understand them, and I assure you they can not be pigeon holed as your type likes to do. But nice name calling when you have nothing better to offer.

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          • vacmancan December 19th, 2013 at 11:31 AM

            Sweetheart you put a lot on the table. Let’s get specific. Can you explain how the hockey stick gets straightened out! Be specific and name your sources.

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          • JohnGaltDurham December 20th, 2013 at 2:21 PM

            Sure it is so easy you could even understand it, just put it on a longer time line and the upturn goes flat. Remember I already showed you data from NASA that shows the warmest period on record was 1932, just back your hockey stick up to include these time frames and your hockey stick goes flat. It has also been proven through tree rings that the warmest period in history was the Renaissance. This signifigance of that for folks like you who have trouble putting the pieces together, it predates the industrial revolution. Like I said the truth is out there. But you choose faith based science as your religion so you listen to what your preachers and prophets say and then accept it on blind faith. There is no science here just manipulated data and an agenda. There is a large group like yourself who claim they are atheist or agnostic or whatever, and then you turn something like global warming into your religion you put your faith in. It is not that you don’t believe, you just don’t know what to believe in. You eximplify the same faith as a Bpatist or Catholic, yet it is in something that can not be proven any more than their faith can. My conversation with you is no different than a Mormon who shows up at my door. They belive, I do not and there is no way either of us can be motivated to change our mind. I see no difference in your arguments, this is your faith your religion, and you will not be swayed from believing that is it true, even if Al Gore himself stepped down off the temple mount and proclaimed he did it for the billions. When Al Gore’s mentor Roger Revelle revealed he did it for the grant money, Al Gore claimed he was senile. You would do the same to Al if he revealed the same truth.

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          • vacmancan December 20th, 2013 at 5:48 PM

            Sweetheart you just can’t do it can you? Once again you’re all over the place. Do you know what be specific means. Let’s stick with the hokey stick and nothing but the honey stick, Okay? Try again.

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          • DFrascone December 20th, 2013 at 6:03 PM

            You’re never specific Honey.

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          • JohnGaltDurham December 30th, 2013 at 11:55 AM

            I don’t need to do it, I understand it. This is obviously a waste of time, so why don’t you use your time to go raise money for the global warming scientists who are currently trapped aboard a ship in artic ice near Antarctica in the summer time. Do something constructive for your fellow delusionists.

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          • vacmancan December 30th, 2013 at 12:06 PM

            Sweetheart, I’m not gonna let you off the hook. Post your proof about how the hockey stick has been debunked. You made the claim you defend the position, right? I need a good laugh, and I need to give someone the old BATTA-BING!!. Today is your lucky day!!

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          • Guest December 30th, 2013 at 2:13 PM

            I see you’ve been removed from “The Hill”. LMAO

            BATTA-BING!!

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          • JohnGaltDurham January 1st, 2014 at 11:30 AM

            http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2013/12/31/record-cold-temperatures/4264237/

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          • vacmancan January 1st, 2014 at 11:39 AM

            Sweetheart, and your point is………………….? You “simple-folk” are so cute. But why do you insist on embarrassing yourself? Can you explain that to me?

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          • .. December 19th, 2013 at 11:43 AM

            Vacant-man, the spamming troll is back again. The moron is never specific about anything. Next he’ll try and lure you to his new hate site where he can moderate everything.

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        • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 5:55 PM

          Vacant-man is a spammer who’s trying to drive traffic to his hate site filled with bigoted comments and rants.

          Nothing posted to him will be accepted unless it conforms to his brainwashed cult and his moronic thought process.

          His hate site consists of:

          1. He hates Fox News

          2. He hates people who believe in God

          3. He hates anyone who disagrees with his stupidity

          4. He hates the oil company but he drives a beat-up old van when he makes vacuum cleaner sales calls.

          5. He lies about his being on welfare and he’s just not a very truthful guy. You see it here with his attempts to spam every site that mentions the flaws in the AGW nonsense.

          He’s also is heavily invested in a solar panel company that’s tanking on the stock market.

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  242. Bam Bam December 13th, 2013 at 8:11 AM

    Climate change has been occurring naturally for the past 4.5+ billion years and will continue to do so. The utter arrogance of these buffoons to suggest we can change it and the stupidity of the low information lemmings that believe it. Name for me just one single example of where we did? Can we stop the next Katrina, Sandy or Haiyan? Just once, explain to me how my tax dollars will favorably alter the climate? It is simply the redistribution of wealth, plain and simple. If you want to save the planet, may I suggest starting by reducing the carbon footprint of Al Gore and Pachauri to zero…

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    • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 8:18 AM

      Sweetheart can you please explain who AGW is redistributing wealth? Be specific and post your proof. We want evidence, and not opinions. You’re up babe!!!

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      • Albert Anastasia December 13th, 2013 at 8:24 AM

        It’s simple retard, ever hear of carbon tax credits ? If you haven’t, look it up..It will explain how they take “taxes” from one company with a high carbon foot print and give credit to an other that doesn’t blow as much carbon .. Now , how in the FU*K is that going to save the damn earth? All it is , is redistribution of wealth .. Now get to learning , you’re on a computer.. Start looking this s#!t up ..

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        • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 8:38 AM

          Sweetheart It seems you don’t understand what the words “BE SPECIFIC” means, do you? Of course I’ve heard of carbon tax credits, but who is paying them and to who? When you make a claim you have to be able to post your proof. See how this works? Now post your proof or pi$$ off, okay?

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          • .. December 14th, 2013 at 3:03 PM

            Post your names of those scientists you keep referencing. You can surely do that Richie. Post them or pi$$-off. See how it works little fella? whoistellingthetruth.org/

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      • Bam Bam December 13th, 2013 at 9:06 AM

        Sweetheart? Babe? Seriously, you’re either gay for me, condescending or both and I don’t appreciate it. I guess the politically correct thing to say is that I am offended…

        You want proof about the redistribution of wealth; seriously? What part of redistribution don’t you understand?

        The pivotal component for AGW has been disproven and yet, even though the doom-and-gloom predictions have fallen by the wayside along with numerous IPCC scandals, those that are dependent on $$$ handouts still try to cling to their original hypothesis and people like yourself allow it to continue.

        May I suggest opening your mind and think for yourself instead of believing everything these educated idiots spew from their mouths and for once try to grasp that the root to almost all evil is power and money. There is so much money embedded into this that, like everything else, corruption follows. Seriously, consider that ALL of our money is taken from us and used to combat climate change….how and what can man do to change it even after being enriched beyond their wildest dreams? Just once I would like an answer to this…

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  243. Albert Anastasia December 13th, 2013 at 8:19 AM

    I love all the millennials that believe in “climate change” global “warming” of today .. Some would actually die fronting this crap, yet they have no idea about the “global cooling” that was going to kill us all in the 1970′s .. Course, if you tell them, they don’t believe you and refuse to look it up ..

    Geez, they’re so gullible ..

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    • Strider73 December 13th, 2013 at 9:10 AM

      For which you can thank the government indoctrination camps, a.k.a. public schools. Our tax dollars paid for their idiocy.

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      • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 10:20 AM

        Sweetheart so you think our public schools are indoctrination camps? Why” Because we teach the kids science, using facts and figures? Should we just teach them to “pray-away” AGW? You “simple-folk” are so cute. Thank you

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        • nickshaw December 14th, 2013 at 11:09 AM

          You mean like your “fact”, “We just had the hottest decade in history.”?
          Have you had your head up your ass since birth?

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    • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 10:15 AM

      Sweetheart why do you boneheads keep refering to the 70′s? Who cares? We use to think the world was flat, didn’t we? Time to move on babe. We just had the hottest decade in history. Time to move on.

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      • nickshaw December 14th, 2013 at 11:07 AM

        “We just had the hottest decade in history.”
        LOLROTFLMAO!
        Not a whit of proof and tons of evidence that it’s not even close!
        You are EXACTLY the type who used to believe the world was flat (that was “consensus” too, sweetheart!) and wanted Copernicus burned at the stake!

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  244. Hawkdriver1961 December 13th, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    IDIOTS!!!! Scientists are nothing but the wh0res of the political elite. Whatever government says it wants in terms of research it needs to strip freedoms and further agendas, the scientists slavishly produce for grants…i.e. Money. Nothing but prostitutes who wear their diplomas as g-strings. I doubt serious objective science in the environment has been done since the cult of Global Warming took center stage and if it ha it has been kept under wraps….

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    • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 10:11 AM

      Sweetheart can you please post a specific example of how the scientists are prostitues when it comes to AGW. Post your evidence and name your sources or go away. Sound fair?

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      • selahgreene December 13th, 2013 at 11:16 AM

        1) The National Climatic Data Center caught lowering the temperatures recorded during the 1930′s in order to manufacture global warming

        2) International Panel on Climate Change 2007 showing sea level increase of 82 cm proven fraudulent; study “withdrawn”

        3) Science Czar John Holdren’s 1977 book “Ecoscience” claims that global cooling will bring on a new ice age, and that the world must therefore engage in mass forced abortions and sterilizations to control population. As Obama’s Science Czar, Holdren now claims that the new threat of global warming demands that the world perform mass forced abortions and sterilizations to control population. This sick clown is the pimp of the science prostitutes.

        The list of ‘scientist’ whores goes on and on.

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        • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 12:10 PM

          Sweetheart let’s start at the top. You claimed the National Climatic Data Center was caught lowering temperatures. That a serious claim, isn’t it? I’m sure somebody went to jail for this, didn’t they? Okay, let’s see the trial transcripts that proved these guys guilty. If you’re gonna make a claim you have to able to defend it. See how this works? So now comes the moment of proof!! Put up or shut up. Let’s see what evidence you have to defend yourself. You’re up babe!!

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          • iamcrm December 13th, 2013 at 3:02 PM

            Can you provide your credentials? You don’t like the examples, but you can look them up yourself. Now YOU prove YOUR side, snarkyheart.

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          • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 3:04 PM

            NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center caught cooling the past – modern processed records don’t match paper records

            Inconsistencies in NCDC Historical Temperature Analysis

            http://wattsupwiththat.com/2012/06/06/noaas-national-climatic-data-center-caught-cooling-the-past-modern-processed-records-dont-match-paper-records/

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 5:14 PM

            Sweetheart you “simple-folk” are so cute. I post studies from the National Academy Of Sciences and you embarrasss yourself by posting something from Anthony Watts. It’s too bad you don’t have enough respect for yourself, to find someone who’s qualified to comment on AGW. http://www.pnas.org/content/107/27/12107.full.pdf+html

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 5:28 PM

            You posted Google Charts from Anthony Watts. Didn’t you even look at the charts. I doubt it.

            The survey you keep referencing has no factual data on AGW. You still haven’t read it, have you?

            Post two dozen names of the scientists that filled out those questionnaires in that study.

            “Peer review and the “ole boys network”

            The authors are responsible for obtaining their own reviews. They decide who the reviewers should be, contact them directly and obtain the critiques. Are you, as a PI, going to reject a National Academy of Science member’s manuscript from PNAS if you are asked to review it? It’s a great way to make friends! So is this really peer review? When your peer is aware that you, as a National Academy of Science (NAS) member, will be quite cross with her/him if you dare to make serious critiques (not to mention reject the manuscript)?

            http://occamstypewriter.org/stevecaplan/2011/10/23/peer-review-and-the-ole-boys-network/

            Now post the names of those scientists or pi$$-off.

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 5:50 PM

            Sweeheart it’s sad you don’t understand how the peer review works. But you “KOCH-SUCKERS” who support the Koch brothers. the 1%, and the fossil fuel industry are expected to understand, As a matter of fact the 1% depend on the “willfully ignorant” like yourself, to promote AGW. How much are they paying you?

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          • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 5:58 PM

            Post the names of 20 of those scientists from your survey. Surely you can do that! Just 20. Put up or pi$$-off.

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          • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 6:02 PM

            Your solar company just merged with a carbon company to generate power. You’re a hypocrite. How’s that sh*t box old gas guzzling van doing?

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 6:15 PM

            Sweetheart, that sound like good news!!! Post the article so we can all enjoy the benefits of solar power. Thank you.

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 6:29 PM

            You own the stock and you’re unaware of it’s merger with a carbon company. That’s really sad but not unexpected from a moron like you. How’s the Fed investigation going?

            Post 30 names of those Scientists from your survey or pi$$-off. See how it works? Be specific. thank you.

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 7:20 PM

            Sweetheart, why would you make the assumption that I own the stock? What part of “post the article” didn’t you understand? Should I type slower for you. You “simple-folk” are so cute. Thank you. You better not charge me for the entertainment. BATTA-BING!!

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          • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 7:26 PM

            You admitted that you own the stock. Now you’re going to lie about owning it? You’re really feeling the pinch in the stock price, aren’t you Richie? LMAO

            Do some basic research into your investments or you can just post your ignorance here. Did I touch such a big nerve that you have to lie about it?

            Post 20 names of those scientists in your study that you reference over and over or pi$$-off. See how it works little fella? Be specific now. Thank you.

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 7:58 PM

            Sweetheart more assumptions!!! Because I owned the stock at one time does not mean that I still own it today. Have you ever heard of trading? You simple folk are so cute. I love B!TCH-SLAPPING!! you but your getting to easy to smack. Do you have any reasonably intelligent friends, that can help you out? Never mind being a conservative you can’t have any reasonably intelligent friends. BATTA-BING!! you’re so easy, thank you.

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          • Yes I'm the famous Joe December 13th, 2013 at 8:01 PM

            LIAR!

            How much of your wife’s life savings have you lost?

            I’m sorry that I pushed you over the edge. (Not really)

            Does your wife know?

            OBTW: post a couple dozen names of those scientists you keep quoting in that survey. Why can’t you little minded people ever produce any proof about anything?

            Now run along Richie. You’re done here.

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          • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 8:07 PM

            The idiot has been caught in his lies. He’s losing his life savings and I doubt his wife knows.

            Yes, Richie, post those names or pi$$-Off!

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 8:30 PM

            Sweetheart this is gonna push you over the edge. BATTA-BING!! I love BITCH-SLAPPIN the snot out of you. Like I say on my website, “Put solar panels on your roof and a Tesla in your garage…………………….More VALIDITY And CONCLUSIVE PROOF that solar is the answer!!!! http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2013/12/10/solarcity-tesla/3948955/

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          • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 8:33 PM

            Tesla cars are burning and you don’t have any solar panels on your home. You’re a KOCH-SUCKER with an old gas guzzling van. ROTFLMAO

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 8:40 PM

            Wait until those lipo batteries start burning businesses to the ground. They stopped using them in Boeing planes because they catch fire and they have caused Tesla cars to ignite into flames for little reason.

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 9:03 PM

            Sweetheart why do you have to deny everything? I’ll bet you were the kid who always got picked last, when side’s were chosen on the play ground? Am I right? What’s your problem? Your bashing the Tesla batteries, but they’re the same type of battery you have in your laptop. You also stated “Tesla cars ignite into flames for no reason.” (GOT PROOF!!!) Stop proving to everyone that you’re a Hater denier and a liar. If you really got a beef, post it on my website if your man enough. BATTA-BING!! Guys, this fruit loop doesn’t have the galladuchies to come on my website. whostellingthetruth.org/

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 9:13 PM

            Post those names of the scientists from your survey. 20 or so will do, or pi$$-off.

            There’s been many recalls on computer batteries for catching fire. The problem comes when you have a single failure turn into a cascade failure, you know, when you bundle thousands of batteries together and one fails they all fail. When a lipo battery fails it catches fire, (almost explodes) The Tesla car problem for example. You’re the only one who thinks I’m a hater in fact you show your hatred every day on the internet sites you spam and your own hate site.

            Folks, Richie tries real hard but no one really agrees with his hatred, vulgarity and bigotry as is displayed everywhere on the internet. He never backs up anything and he just doubles down on his ignorance.

            He has no idea what he’s talking about and this post of his proves just that.

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 9:54 PM

            Sweetheart, you keep proving you’re a hater denier and liar because you just make shit up without any proof. You keep claiming Tesla cars can ignite for no reason ignite for no reason and I say what I always say. GOT PROOF!!! And you never do. It’s easy to see your a hater, you hate anything that good for America. That’s why you always got picked last. BATTA-BING!!

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 9:57 PM

            I post facts, you prove none of your claims.

            Where’s you list of scientists from your survey? Hater.

            More of your lame insults.

            Post the names or pi$$-off. You’re a boring bigot. See how it works?

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 9:20 PM

            I don’t have to visit a bigoted, hate site. I see your ignorance here, on the web. I did see one of your hate video’s over at a Conservative web site. They really show what a fool you are. You’re a very famous idiot and fool on the internet. Really, you are. “Uncle Richie” and his basement productions. Are there little children in your basement “Uncle Richie”?

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          • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 10:01 PM

            Sweetheart your the type of person that would look at the live solar generation on my site and deny it. why? Because you hate anything renewable and sustainable. That’s why you have to lie. Your A “KOCH-SUCKER” who is sucking at the OIL TIT of the fossil fuel industry. The 1% depends on “simple-folk” like you. BATTA-BING!!

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 10:05 PM

            You’re the “KOCH-SUCKER” with your gas guzzling old van. You’re one of the “simple folk” with your oil burners heating your house and lack of any solar panels.

            You’re a hypocrite. You keep posting the same lame insults for years. It’s not working on anyone.

            Go back into your basement and talk to the hand.

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 10:11 PM

            My telling the truth about you isn’t a denial of anything. I have a solar hot-water heater on my house. I have a wind generator for back-up power on the ranch.

            I just don’t invest in companies that can’t make a profit without Government subsidies like Vacant-man does. He just sucks off of the taxpayers of this country.

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          • .. December 14th, 2013 at 2:18 PM

            Post the names of those scientists from the survey that you keep quoting. Just a couple dozen will do, fool. Do it or pi$$-off. See how it works Richie?

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          • nickshaw December 14th, 2013 at 10:50 AM

            This kind doesn’t care that they are perceived as idiots or fools, Guest, as long as they are famous.
            Typical lefty.

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          • nickshaw December 14th, 2013 at 10:48 AM

            Hilarious!
            Just like Media Matters!
            “We’ve beaten Fox so, we’re done here! We’ve accomplished our goal!”
            When, in fact, Fox is stronger than ever and Media Matters supported outlets are tanking!
            You are just as delusional.
            You actually think you have “bitch slapped” your opponent!
            Admit it. You work for Media Matters or some kind of liberal asshole group that takes Soros money (see, two can play that Koch game)
            And I use the word “work” quite loosely.

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          • .. December 13th, 2013 at 8:10 PM

            You’re reduced to your lies. You’re such a simpleton. Do you have any friends? Even your pal John thinks your an idiot behind your back. LMAO

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          • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 6:34 PM

            You don’t have any solar panels on your house. You drive an old gas guzzling van.

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          • nickshaw December 14th, 2013 at 10:40 AM

            I forget. Who did Algore sell his cable network to again?

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          • nickshaw December 14th, 2013 at 10:38 AM

            Ahhhh, there it is.
            The true lib’rul rears it’s ugly head.
            I wonder if they said crude epithets about the guys who supported Galileo’s work?
            Couched in cloying passive- aggressive words.

            Yeah, I’m guessing they did.

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          • nickshaw December 14th, 2013 at 10:35 AM

            This is the fall back position of scientists, governments and, of course, the church since time began.
            The sneer at the findings of the “outsider”, the one who doesn’t agree with the “consensus”.
            I liken it to Galileo and look how that turned out.
            Is Anthony Watts the same as Galileo was in his day? No, not really but, he hosts a site that brings together respected scientists to voice their dissenting or, at least, differing opinions to those being offered by the so called “consensus” scientists.
            It was with the same smugness the leading figures of the day attacked Galileo and those who agreed with him (sometimes getting quite physical) that you employ here.
            It is people like you that do a disservice to your “side” that makes people just want to slap you. Both physically and metaphorically.

            And I think that day is fast approaching.

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          • vacmancan December 14th, 2013 at 12:50 PM

            Sweetheart Anthony Watts is a denier, who doesn’t know his a$$ from a hole in the wall. And you use him as a source, isn’t that sad? And you think he’s a Galileo? You “simple-folk” are so cute, thank you.

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          • .. December 14th, 2013 at 2:11 PM

            His charts are in the Google source you keep referencing you fool.

            Post the names of some of those scientists in your survey or pi$$-off. See how it works? Be specific.

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          • nickshaw December 14th, 2013 at 10:18 AM

            ” I’m sure somebody went to jail for this, didn’t they?”
            A true laugh out loud moment.
            NOBODY who works for government goes to jail for lying anymore. NOBODY takes any responsibility for anything that wastes billions of dollars anymore.
            The fact is, multiple supposed respected institutions have rigged numbers to try to reinforce the idea that Gorebull warming is a product of man’s activities.
            While I can agree that warming and climate change is indeed happening, man’s part in it is insignificant.
            As would be man’s response to it.
            The “scare” is merely for redistribution of wealth, nothing more. Leading figures of the “climate change” movement have actually said as much.

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          • vacmancan December 14th, 2013 at 12:27 PM

            Sweetheart, you claimed “the fact is, multiple supposed respected institutions have rigged the numbers” didn’t you? Okay now it’s time to pay tour dues. Please post the evidence that proves your point. Remember to name your sources. Thank you.

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          • nickshaw December 14th, 2013 at 12:34 PM

            Sorry, I don’t respond to idiots except to tell them I don’t respond to idiots.
            And thank you!

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          • vacmancan December 14th, 2013 at 1:01 PM

            Sweetheart, I’m just getting warmed up. I love knocking the snot out of you “simple-folk” Thank you.

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          • .. December 14th, 2013 at 2:19 PM

            Spammer idiot. Post some proof of anything or pi$$-off Richie.

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          • Guest December 14th, 2013 at 2:46 PM

            Nick he really means he loves picking snot out of his nose. whoistellingthetruth.org/

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          • Guest December 14th, 2013 at 2:54 PM

            Please post the names of those scientists you keep referencing in that survey or pi$$-off. OKAY? Why is it you can’t do this one thing? Just post 25 or 35 of those 97% ers.

            Why are you such a hater and why do you insist on embarrassing your family every day on the internet. Dawn and Dianna must be really ashamed of you and your ignorance. whoistellingthetruth.org/

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      • Hawkdriver1961 December 13th, 2013 at 11:30 PM

        Here is just one of many articles….Darling.

        http://www.forbes.com/2011/01/03/climate-change-hoax-opinions-contributors-larry-bell.html

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        • vacmancan December 14th, 2013 at 4:14 AM

          Sweetheart why would you post anything from a rag like forbes magazine. You just proved you have no credibility, thanks.

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      • Hawkdriver1961 December 13th, 2013 at 11:42 PM

        Another one just for you Honey….

        http://cnsnews.com/news/article/barbara-hollingsworth/wrong-al-gore-predicted-arctic-summer-ice-could-disappear-2013

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      • Hawkdriver1961 December 13th, 2013 at 11:44 PM

        Here is one from today princess….

        http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/13/cairo-snow_n_4441049.html

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      • Hawkdriver1961 December 13th, 2013 at 11:51 PM

        Now this gem today. Sun is lowest output in a century and not one word about impacting climate or weather. When warming was occurring in the 90′s the sun was very active and all the planets were heating up…even Pluto, yet the scientists said the CMEs have no impact on weather or temperature….

        http://www.space.com/23934-weak-solar-cycle-space-weather.html

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      • Hawkdriver1961 December 14th, 2013 at 12:11 AM

        How can this be?

        http://dailycaller.com/2013/12/13/study-earth-was-warmer-in-roman-medieval-times/

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        • vacmancan December 14th, 2013 at 4:35 AM

          Sweetheart, you’re asking how can this be? It’s simple, it was posted on the daily caller. You need to watch my shows so you don’t fall into the “simple-folk-post-syndrome?” What’s the “simple-folk-post syndrome?” It’s when you don’t read the articles you post, and you don’t question your sources. You just read the headline and think it’s a fact. The 1% has dumbed you down pretty good. You need a wake up call, here it is. whostellingthetruth.org/

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          • Hawkdriver1961 December 14th, 2013 at 4:56 AM

            Being in aviation most of my career, I have run across people such as yourself a few times. They think they are smart and act like haughty a–es. Must be lonely being the only intelligent man on the planet. I do happen to know how to read data and I’ll take a Forbes article any day of the week over say, the New York Times or the Washington Post. Many things are being kept from us and Global Warming is a ruse to strip freedoms on a world wide scale. We are being prepared for a single authoritarian government rule and Global Warming is the boogey man to help make that a reality. In the future, if you want to debate or discuss an issue, try talking to others as you would have others talk to you. You may find you may learn something as well as illuminating others to your opinions.

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          • vacmancan December 14th, 2013 at 5:08 AM

            Sweetheart, let’s stop the bullshit. Your sources are your problem. You’re getting information from an organization with an agenda. And then you make a stupid statement like my freedoms are being taken away!!!!!!! Let’s go to the source!! What do the climate scientists, publishing peer reviewed studies have to say about AGW??

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          • alpha2actual December 15th, 2013 at 2:09 PM

            A combined cycle natural gas turbine plant studied by the DOE completed in 2010 is rated at 570 mw and produces 470 mw, capacity factor 85%. cost $311 MILLION. life cycle 35 years therefore this plant will produce 133 Terawatts life cycle.

            Cape wind project in nantucket sound has been approved. the project will cost $2.6 BILLON, and it has secured funding for $2 billon of that from a japanese bank. but this is believed to be subject to the project gaining a loan guarantee from the u.s. department of energy. the contracted cost of the wind farm’s energy will be 23 cents a kilowatt hour (excluding tax credits, which are unlikely to last the length of the project), which is more than 50% higher than current average electricity prices in massachusetts. the bay state is already the 4th most expensive state for electricity in the nation. even if the tax credits are preserved, $940 million of the $1.6 billion contract represents costs above projections for the likely market price of conventional power. moreover, these costs are just the initial costs they are scheduled to rise by 3.5 percent annually for 15 years. by year 15 the rate will be $.38 per Kilowatt. Come back.

            This project is rated at 468 mw and will produce 143 mw after applying a capacity factor of 30.4 % the time the wind actually blows. life cycle is 20 years therefore this project will produce 24.6 Terawatts life cycle

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          • alpha2actual December 15th, 2013 at 12:27 PM

            vacmancan is not intelligent, he/she is either a morbidly obese teenager on a computer in his parents basement or a intellecutally deficient entailment parasite on the dole.

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          • alpha2actual December 15th, 2013 at 12:23 PM

            Define “my shows”

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          • vacmancan December 15th, 2013 at 1:10 PM

            Sweetheart, I’ll let my show define itself. BATTA-BNG!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF-3BICKJKE

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          • Guest December 16th, 2013 at 1:36 PM

            Why do trolls do it?

            I believe that most trolls are sad people, living their lonely lives vicariously through those they see as strong and successful.

            Disrupting a stable newsgroup gives the illusion of power, just as for a few, stalking a strong person allows them to think they are strong, too.

            For trolls, any response is ‘recognition’; they are unable to distinguish between irritation and admiration; their ego grows directly in proportion to the response, regardless of the form or content of that response.

            Trolls, rather surprisingly, dispute this, claiming that it’s a game or joke; this merely confirms the diagnosis; how sad do you have to be to find such mind-numbingly trivial timewasting to be funny?

            Remember that trolls are cowards; they’ll usually post just enough to get an argument going, then sit back and count the responses (Yes, that’s what they do!).”Heenan”

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          • .. December 16th, 2013 at 3:07 PM

            His shows consist of a computer camera in a back room where he preaches;

            1. Atheism

            2. hatred for Fox News

            3. hatred for the GOP

            4. hatred for anyone who disagrees with him

            5. hatred for anyone religious

            6. hatred for Wall-Mart

            You know, what leftists hate. Reality.

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      • alpha2actual December 15th, 2013 at 10:03 AM

        Ethanol promoted by pseudo scientists as a means of controlling CO2 emissions. The Ethanol program is a prime exemplar of the state of the renewable energy nonsense today.

        After 30 years and 40 Billion Dollars even the Environmentalists have turned on Ethanol yet the Crony Capitalists keeping pushing this boondoggle. Corn ethanol is a net carbon emitter after factoring in land usage, carbon footprint of fertilizer, fuel expenditure etc. Ethanol is corrosive and can’t be transported by pipeline, call in those nasty 18 wheelers. It takes 1 gallon of water to crack out 1 gallon of gasoline while 2650 gallons of water begets 1 gallon of ethanol factoring in the agricultural usage. It takes 195 pounds of fertilizer per acre of corn which adds to runoff into the Mississippi then into the Gulf of Mexico which will have the biggest recorded dead zone this year. For comparison 1 acre of Soybeans uses no fertilizer. What’s more, burning corn ethanol in gasoline releases more benzene, a known carcinogen, and other toxic air pollutants that have been linked to asthma, bronchitis and other respiratory ailments.

        The amount of corn consumed by this program could feed 570 million people. It’s astounding to me that 40% of the total US corn production is consumed by this moronic program and after 30 years Congress is just now attempting to shut it down by not subsidizing it. Last year it is estimated that 20 to 30 million inhabitants of developing countries moved from “Food Insecurity” status to starvation.

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        • vacmancan December 15th, 2013 at 10:20 AM

          Sweetheart I tend to agree with you. Solar and wind are the answer. Watch my shows, you’ll get the idea. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GF-3BICKJKE

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          • alpha2actual December 15th, 2013 at 12:18 PM

            A combined cycle natural gas turbine plant studied by the DOE completed in 2010 is rated at 570 mw and produces 470 mw, capacity factor 85%. cost $311 MILLION. life cycle 35 years therefore this plant will produce 133 Terawatts life cycle.

            Cape wind project in nantucket sound has been approved. the project will cost $2.6 BILLON, and it has secured funding for $2 billon of that from a japanese bank. but this is believed to be subject to the project gaining a loan guarantee from the u.s. department of energy. the contracted cost of the wind farm’s energy will be 23 cents a kilowatt hour (excluding tax credits, which are unlikely to last the length of the project), which is more than 50% higher than current average electricity prices in massachusetts. the bay state is already the 4th most expensive state for electricity in the nation. even if the tax credits are preserved, $940 million of the $1.6 billion contract represents costs above projections for the likely market price of conventional power. moreover, these costs are just the initial costs they are scheduled to rise by 3.5 percent annually for 15 years. by year 15 the rate will be $.38 per Kilowatt.

            This project is rated at 468 mw and will produce 143 mw after applying a capacity factor of 30.4 % the time the wind actually blows. life cycle is 20 years therefore this project will produce 24.6 Terawatts life cycle

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          • vacmancan December 15th, 2013 at 12:33 PM

            Sweetheart you conveniently forgot to add the externalities to burning natural gas, didn’t you? Asthma, lung disease. What about the cost effects of AGW, why didn’t you add them in? You “simple-folk” are so cute. Thank you.

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          • alpha2actual December 15th, 2013 at 1:54 PM

            You call me “sweetheart” again I will kill you, 2 rounds center of mass, and one in thef brain bucket, when you are on the ground.

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          • alpha2actual December 15th, 2013 at 2:17 PM

            Social Costs are a construct of Social-Economics a dubious subset of Classical Economics and a perversion of the Externality Cost concept. They are embraced by transnational progressives, like the UN and IPCC. These folks are practitioners of government control of the economies, and the attending redistribution of wealth. We all know how well that worked out, think Soviet Union.

            If one conducts a meta statistical analysis of the papers produced by Social Economists you will find that “social cost” will always trump free market exchange between willing parties and invariably suggest that government intervene in the market. Think price controls.

            External cost calculations attempt to measure the effect of policies, which include “unintended consequences” on the market which can be either positive or negative. Social Costs are invariably negative and therefore the remediation recommended will be detrimental to your financial well being.

            I find it interesting that there was no social cost calculation when Developed Countries imposed DDT restrictions on developing countries starting in 1972 until as recently as Clinton’s side agreement with Mexico calling for cessation of export and manufacture of DDT by 2007 as a requirement for its participation in NAFTA. The anti-DDT junk science policy has resulted in the deaths of 100 Million plus inhabitants of the Sub Sahara, Asia, and South America.

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          • .. December 16th, 2013 at 1:50 PM

            Why do trolls do it?

            I believe that most trolls are sad people, living their lonely lives vicariously through those they see as strong and successful. “Heenan”

            PLEASE visit my hate and bigotry site. Richie’s lonely.

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  245. The Guardian December 13th, 2013 at 11:35 AM

    “We are the Great Wizards of Oz — pay no attention to the little government grant researchers behind the curtain”

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    • vacmancan December 13th, 2013 at 12:01 PM

      Sweetheart, the Great Wizards of OZ????? When it comes to AGW you “simple-folk” are so cute. Thank you.

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      • Guest December 13th, 2013 at 3:04 PM

        You boneheads and bigots are not.

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      • alpha2actual December 14th, 2013 at 4:37 PM

        It irks me when people conflate Anthropogenic Climate Change with Climate Change and Anthropogenic Global Warming with Global Warming. Climate Change is studied by Paleoclimatologists who work with ice and ocean sediment cores. They are interested in time frames of tens and hundreds of thousands of years and geological epochs. For instance, the climate record shows that there have been 5 interglacial (warm) and 4 glacial (cold) episodes during the current 400,000 record. We are obviously enjoying an interglacial event but 12,000 years from now all of Canada and 40% of the United States including Manhattan, thankfully, will be under 5,000 feet of ice. It is undoubtedly true that 99% of scientists believe in Climate Change however to state as fact that 97% believe in Anthropogenic Climate Change is both absurd and a statistical improbability. The climate record also shows that global temperature increases precede attending increases in atmospheric CO2 by periods ranging from 400 to 1400 years.

        The fossil record and ocean sediment indicates that six thousand years ago Northern Africa rapidly devolved from a verdant South America Savannah into what is now the Sahara Desert. This event caused catastrophic upheavals to populations bordering the Mediterranean Sea. This begs the question, what anthropogenic vector caused this to happen? I’m quite sure that the heavy industry of the period didn’t play a role in this event. I’m with the Axial Precession hypothesis on this one. Anyone who believes that global climate supercomputer models are useful is, of course, living in a state of sin. Apologies to John von Neumann’s famous quote on mathematical algorithms that generate random numbers.

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        • vacmancan December 14th, 2013 at 4:57 PM

          Sweetheart, what’s absurd is the idea that 2.7% of the climate scientists publishing “peer-reviewed” studies don’t believe that AGW is happening. These guys are living proof that anyone can be bought. http://skepticalscience.com/97-percent-consensus-cook-et-al-2013.html

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          • .. December 14th, 2013 at 5:18 PM

            Post 25 or 30 of those climate scientists from your survey. You’ve been dodging this for two days now Richie. Post the names of pi$$-off. See how it works little fella?

            Stop making an ass out of yourself and disgracing your family with your BS.

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          • alpha2actual December 15th, 2013 at 9:56 AM

            What a source, skepticalscience the complete name of course is Skeptical Pseudo Scientists and Sycophantical Wannabes attacking attacking established and credentialed climate science professionals who happen to disagree with the Anthropogenic Climate Change cohort. Most of the cites are from pseudo soft science types, most with “Studies” degrees like, I have a PHD in Transsexual Honduran Homophonic White Privilege StudIes” from the University of Podunk, and I’m really pissed that I didn’t get hired by Exon as a Petroleum Engineer. If you can’t play coach, if you can’t do Paleoclimatology post on skepticalscience,

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          • alpha2actual December 15th, 2013 at 10:12 AM

            It’s referred to as Pal Reviewed by serious researchers.

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          • vacmancan December 15th, 2013 at 10:37 AM

            Sweetheart when it’s published they can’t take it back. That’s why the process is so important. Like Lawrence Krauss states, if you want to become famous prove another scientist wrong. If you have proof, post it, otherwise, pi$$-off. OKay?

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          • .. December 16th, 2013 at 1:48 PM

            Krauss is just another Atheist like Vacant-man.

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  246. alpha2actual December 14th, 2013 at 4:35 PM

    I read recently that, globally, 34.7 billion tons of CO2 was injected into the atmosphere this past year. This outwardly appears rather impressive until one realizes that the atmosphere weighs in at 5.5 quadrillion (million billion) tons. New all time low temperature record set in Antarctic -138.5 F. 2000 low temperature and snow records set in the US last week.

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    • vacmancan December 14th, 2013 at 4:58 PM

      Sweetheart, are you trying to make a point?

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      • .. December 14th, 2013 at 5:20 PM

        You sure can’t post any proof of anything but IPCC BS.

        Richie doesn’t have the brain power to post any proof of anything.

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        • vacmancan December 14th, 2013 at 5:36 PM

          Joey sweetheart, you are crying out for attention. I understand, you must be very lonely? You want to be in on things, and I hate to give you the cold shoulder, but you already know the science is settled. I have to reach out to the deniers. So I don’t want you to think I’m being mean to you, I love you. I just have to devote my time to the “simple-folk” I hope you understand. If you want to stay close to me watch one of my shows. whostellingthetruth.org/

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          • .. December 14th, 2013 at 5:38 PM

            I’m sorry but Joey isn’t here. Now you’re getting delusional along with your ignorant posts.

            Why can’t you post some proof?

            More of your ignorant posts.

            whostellingthetruth.org/.

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          • .. December 14th, 2013 at 5:46 PM

            How can troll posts be recognised?

            No Imagination – Most are frighteningly obvious; sexist comments on nurses’ groups, blasphemy on religious groups .. I kid you not.
            Pedantic in the Extreme – Many trolls’ preparation is so thorough, that while they waste time, they appear so ludicrous from the start that they elicit sympathetic mail – the danger is that once the group takes sides, the damage is done.
            False Identity – Because they are cowards, trolls virtually never write over their own name, and often reveal their trolliness (and lack of imagination) in the chosen ID. As so many folk these days use false ID, this is not a strong indicator on its own!
            Crossposting – Any post that is crossposted to several groups should be viewed as suspicious, particularly if unrelated or of opposing perspective. Why would someone do that?
            Off-topic posting – Often genuine errors, but, if from an ‘outsider’ they deserve matter-of-fact response; if genuine, a brief apposite response is simply netiquette; if it’s a troll post, you have denied it its reward.
            Repetition of a question or statement is either a troll – or a pedant; either way, treatment as a troll is effective.
            Missing The Point – Trolls rarely answer a direct question – they cannot, if asked to justify their twaddle – so they develop a fine line in missing the point.
            Thick or Sad – Trolls are usually sad, lonely folk, with few social skills; they rarely make what most people would consider intelligent conversation. However, they frequently have an obsession with their IQ and feel the need to tell everyone. This is so frequent, that it is diagnostic! Somewhere on the web there must be an Intelligence Test for Trolls -”Heenan”

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          • vacmancan December 14th, 2013 at 6:22 PM

            Joey you just described yourself to a tee. But you forgot to mention you’re crying out for attention.

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          • .. December 14th, 2013 at 7:09 PM

            You seem to have some sort of unnatural attraction to this Joey fella.

            http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/09/30/peter-lilley-the-end-is-near-for-global-warming-doomsday-cult/

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          • .. December 14th, 2013 at 7:44 PM

            Missing The Point – Trolls rarely answer a direct question – they cannot, if asked to justify their twaddle – so they develop a fine line in missing the point.

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          • alpha2actual December 15th, 2013 at 12:21 PM

            In reality “vacmancan” is a classic Freudian Delight, a mass of clues and an individual of no importance.

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      • .. December 14th, 2013 at 5:23 PM

        I think he made his point little fella. Are you that stupid that you have to embarrass your family every day on the internet. Why are you a hater?

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      • alpha2actual December 15th, 2013 at 9:33 AM

        You lost me at Sweetheart, therefore statistically, you have nothing to add to the discussion.

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    • .. December 14th, 2013 at 5:22 PM

      Alpha, vacant-man is a simple minded little troll.

      Why do trolls do it?

      I believe that most trolls are sad people, living their lonely lives vicariously through those they see as strong and successful.

      Disrupting a stable newsgroup gives the illusion of power, just as for a few, stalking a strong person allows them to think they are strong, too.

      For trolls, any response is ‘recognition’; they are unable to distinguish between irritation and admiration; their ego grows directly in proportion to the response, regardless of the form or content of that response.

      Trolls, rather surprisingly, dispute this, claiming that it’s a game or joke; this merely confirms the diagnosis; how sad do you have to be to find such mind-numbingly trivial timewasting to be funny?

      Remember that trolls are cowards; they’ll usually post just enough to get an argument going, then sit back and count the responses (Yes, that’s what they do!).

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      • alpha2actual December 15th, 2013 at 9:28 AM

        Thank you, not so much for your reply to my post but more so as how trolls detract from serious conversation on the topic at hand. Perhaps I’m old fashioned, but I still believe that critical thinking counts for something. Thank you again and I will be visiting whostellingthethruth.org for further edification.

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  247. alpha2actual December 15th, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    Bottom line. It is a misconception that the Environmental Movement is benign, well intentioned, and monolithic– it is not. In reality the movement is extremely factionalized and schizophrenic. The legitimate players are the rent seekers, grant chasers, and politicans pandering to a constituency, the Green Lobby.

    The True Believers are the Transnational Progressives, Luddites, Malthusians, Narcissistic Xenophobes, Gaia cultists, Margaret Sanger Eugenics disciples, and Pathological Altruists to name but a few. Review your “Silent Spring” and the attending banning and restrictions on the use of DDT. The carnage visited on the inhabitants of the Sub Sahara, South America, and Asia is unconscionable. Read Erlich’s “Population Bomb” and the Club of Rome literature “carrying capacity” is code for disdain of inhabitants of Third World countries.. Science is intended to drive policy not the other way around. Policy driven Science misallocates capital but more importantly takes lives.

    These modern environmentalists, and I’m including the Global Warming Alarmists, are immoral and inhuman and have racked up a body count that surpasses 80 million and counting, 80% children under five and pregnant women

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