Former Obama Energy Chief slams EPA climate regs: ‘Falsely sold as impactful’ – ‘All U.S. annual emissions will be offset by 3 weeks of Chinese emissions’


By: - Climate DepotMay 26, 2016 11:55 AM with 25 comments

Washington DC — Former Obama Department of Energy Assistant Secretary Charles McConnell eviscerated the President’s proposed EPA Clean Power Plan regulation to fight global warming in testimony before Congress.

McConnell’s full testimony here:

Former Assistant Secretary: “The Clean Power Plan (CPP) has been falsely sold as impactful environmental regulation when it is really an attempt by our primary federal environmental regulator to take over state and federal regulation of energy.”

“What is also clear, scientifically and technically, is that EPA’s plan will not significantly impact global emissions.”

“Consider that all of the U.S. annual emissions in 2025 will be offset by three weeks of Chinese emissions. Three weeks. So it is dramatically uneventful. Is this impactful climate regulation? I think not.”

Impact of EPA’s Clean Power Plan
House Science Committee
May 26, 2016


  • Will Haas

    Despite all the claims, there is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate. There is no such evidence in the paleoclimate record. There is evidence that warmer temperatures cause more CO2 to enter the atmosphere but there is no evidence that this additional CO2 causes any more warming. If additional greenhouse gases caused additional warming then the primary culprit would have to be H2O which depends upon the warming of just the surfaces of bodies of water and not their volume but such is not part of the AGW conjecture. In other words CO2 increases in the atmosphere as huge volumes of water increase in temperature but more H2O enters the atmopshere as just the surface of bodies of water warm. We live in a water world where the majoriety of the Earth’s surface is some form of water. Models have been generated that show that the climate change we have been experiencing is caused by the sun and the oceans over which Man has no control.

    The AGW theory is that adding CO2 to the atmosphere causes an increase in its radiant thermal insulation properties causing restrictions in heat flow which in turn cause warming at the Earth’s surface and the lower atmosphere. In itself the effect is small because we are talking about small changes in the CO2 content of the atmosphere and CO2 comprises only about .04% of dry atmosphere if it were only dry but that is not the case. Actually H2O, which averages around 2%, is the primary greenhouse gas. The AGW conjecture is that the warming causes more H2O to enter the atmosphere which further increases the radiant thermal insulation properties of the atmosphere and by so doing so amplifies the effect of CO2 on climate. At first this sounds very plausible. This is where the AGW conjecture ends but that is not all what must happen if CO2 actually causes any warming at all.

    Besides being a greenhouse gas, H2O is also a primary coolant in the Earth’s atmosphere transferring heat energy from the Earth;s surface to where clouds form via the heat of vaporization. More heat energy is moved by H2O via phase change then by both convection and LWIR absorption band radiation combined. More H2O means that more heat energy gets moved which provides a negative feedback to any CO2 based warming that might occur. Then there is the issue of clouds. More H2O means more clouds. Clouds not only reflect incoming solar radiation but they radiate to space much more efficiently then the clear atmosphere they replace. Clouds provide another negative feedback. Then there is the issue of the upper atmosphere which cools rather than warms. The cooling reduces the amount of H2O up there which decreases any greenhouse gas effects that CO2 might have up there. In total, H2O provides negative feedback’s which must be the case because negative feedback systems are inherently stable as has been the Earth’s climate for at least the past 500 million years, enough for life to evolve. We are here. The wet lapse rate being smaller then the dry lapse rate is further evidence of H2O’s cooling effects.

    The entire so called, “greenhouse” effect that the AGW conjecture is based upon is at best very questionable. A real greenhouse does not stay warm because of the heat trapping effects of greenhouse gases. A real greenhouse stays warm because the glass reduces cooling by convection. This is a convective greenhouse effect. So too on Earth..The surface of the Earth is 33 degrees C warmer than it would be without an atmosphere because gravity limits cooling by convection. This convective greenhouse effect is observed on all planets in the solar system with thick atmospheres and it has nothing to do with the LWIR absorption properties of greenhouse gases. the convective greenhouse effect is calculated from first principals and it accounts for all 33 degrees C. There is no room for an additional radiant greenhouse effect. Our sister planet Venus with an atmosphere that is more than 90 times more massive then Earth’s and which is more than 96% CO2 shows no evidence of an additional radiant greenhouse effect. The high temperatures on the surface of Venus can all be explained by the planet’s proximity to the sun and its very dense atmosphere. The radiant greenhouse effect of the AGW conjecture has never been observed. If CO2 did affect climate then one would expect that the increase in CO2 over the past 30 years would have caused an increase in the natural lapse rate in the troposphere but that has not happened. Considering how the natural lapse rate has changed as a function of an increase in CO2, the climate sensitivity of CO2 must equal 0.0.

    This is all a matter of science

    • American Me

      Thank you Will.That was a good explanation and I agree.This is all a big scam to take more control of our lives.We must continue to fight this.

      • Barbara

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        Published quarterly and distributed by the Globe And Mail in Canada and the WASHINGTON POST in the U.S. Magazine also distributed by direct-mail to corporate and political decision makers worldwide.

        Co-founded by Toby A.A. Heaps

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corporate_Knights

        The Globe And Mail, Toronto, May 2, 2015

        Maurice Strong’s 85th Birthday Party, Toronto, Canada, April 29, 2015.

        Photo # 8, Toby Heaps along with some big political names in Canada are in this photo collection.

        http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/fashion-and-beauty/fashion/party-photos-of-the-week-maurice-strongs-85th-
        birthday/article18401679

        Maurice Strong had a long association with UNEP.

        People need to know how information is distributed and where it comes from as from Canada to a major U.S. media source.

        There is a lot more on Corporate Knights magazine online

    • donojibway

      I’m guessing that you too have read some of Dr. Roy Spencer’s publications on the subject.

      • Will Haas

        I have read material from various authors on both sides of the AGW conjecture and have used my own related education and experience. It is terrible the way Mankind is busy burning up our very finite supply of fossil fuels just as quickly as possible. I would have liked to have added AGW as another reason to conserve but the AGW conjecture is just too full of holes for me to defend.

        • donojibway

          I agree completely. What is your opinion on nuclear power generation? France is roughly 80% reliant on it with no major problems.

    • You are spot on target Will Haas!

      Carbon and Life

      It is hard to overstate the importance of carbon; its unique capacity for forming multiple bonds and chains at low energies makes life as we know it possible, and justifies an entire major branch of chemistry – organic chemistry – dedicated to its compounds. In fact, most of the compounds known to science are carbon compounds, often called organic compounds because it was in the context of biochemistry that they were first studied in depth.

      What makes carbon so special is that every carbon atom is eager to bond with as many as four other atoms. This makes it possible for long chains and rings to be formed out of them, together with other atoms – almost always hydrogen, often oxygen, sometimes nitrogen, sulfur or halides. The study of these is the basis of organic chemistry; the compounds carbon forms with metals are generally considered inorganic. Chains and rings are fundamental to the way carbon-based life forms – that is, all known life-forms – build themselves.

      Carbon Cycle and Life

      *Carbon is a fundamental building block of life; life on Earth is comprised of carbon-based life forms*

      http://www.enviroliteracy.org/article.php/478.html

      • Will Haas

        And we ultimately get our carbon from plants and plants get their carbon from CO2 in the air. Life as we know it on this planet cannot survive without CO2 in the atmosphere. Actually in terms of so called “greenhouse gas” theory the most important greenhouse gas in the Earth’s atmosphere is H2O which is essential to life as well. There is no real evidence that CO2 has any effect on climate and there exists plenty of rational as to why such is the case.

    • xBeth

      “The AGW theory…” There is no AGW Theory… Only computer models that fail to predict short term trends.

  • 4TimesAYear

    The Clean Power Plan has been a lie from its inception, right down to the name.

  • john robel

    THERE IS NO CONCLUSIVE EMPERICAL EVIDENCE OF MAN MADE GLOBAL WARMING. WATCH CLIMATE HUSTLE, all this PROPAGANDA serves to further CONTROL US. The earth hasn’t warmed in 20 years, in fact we are in a COOLING STAGE.

    • donojibway

      Where can I watch Climate Hustle? I missed it in the theaters May 2.

  • tom2

    From global warming to climate chaos and rising sea levels, this always has been about money. The immediate sequel to its initiation was cap and trade. For those who already have forgotten it, or those too young to remember it, here’s the short history. The “cap” part is a set of limits on various industries regarding the allowable emissions. The “trade” part is allowing excess emissions for a price. Businesses would be allowed to buy “credits” from other businesses that reduce emissions or function below the “cap” set by the government. It quickly devolved into certificates of emission reductions that could be traded on a huge market managed by leftists who dreamed it up. The short term for this is poppycock.

  • Well, THAT ain’t in accordance with the narrative!

  • American Me

    It’s all a big LIE!!!!!Like the former Obama Energy Chief says.Our energy prices will double or triple and we suffer because we can’t afford it and all of our annual sacrifice is off set by 3 weeks of Chinese emmisions.Unless the whole world stops using Coal and other fossil fuels,it won’t make any difference what we do.Not to mention how many millions more Americans will be put out of work if you shut down the Coal industries and that will effect other industries who buy it, sell it,Truck it,and deliver it.So it will effect Millions.Trump says he will reverse what has already been done and keep the Coal Industry in business.

    • Also do not forget this warm and fuzzy way to handle energy producers. Sarc/off!

      Apr 25, 2012 EPA Official: EPAs “philosophy” is to “crucify” and “make examples” of US energy producers

      https://youtu.be/ze3GB_b7Nuo

  • clive

    You can bet that the “DemocRATS”will be out to stop Trump Getting elected in November,as will the “Global Warmista’s”from around the world.We have seen this when Tony Abbott(Australia’s prime minister)and the Canadian prime minister,had to be removed before Cop21,in Paris,last year.The “Lefties”are going all out to disrupt Trumps campaining,with help of”Black Lives Matter and Soros money.make sure”Your”Politicians know who they should be backing and what will be the “Consequence”if they don’t.Trump is the free worlds way to be rid of “Global Warming”nonsense.
    Trump for President – Hilary for prison 2016.

    • Dec 18, 2015 Donald Trump Is The Establishment Candidate

      While his rise in the polls is attributed to his challenging the establishment and the political status quo, let’s look at the many ways Donald Trump, when it comes to his political positions, represents that very same status quo. From the Fed, to war, to civil liberties, the “anti-establishment”? Trump takes no positions not already endorsed by the establishment.

      https://youtu.be/vt2NPP1z-y8

  • Dec 8, 2015 Climate Change is Unfaslifiable Woo-Woo Pseudoscience

    Karl Popper famously said, “A theory that explains everything explains nothing.” So what do you make of the theory that catastrophic manmade CO2-driven “climate change” can account for harsher winters and lighter winters, more snow and less snow, droughts and floods, more hurricanes and less hurricanes, more rain and less rain, more malaria and less malaria, saltier seas and less salty seas, Antarctica ice melting and Antarctic ice gaining and dozens of other contradictions? Popper gave a name to “theories” like this: pseudoscience.

    https://youtu.be/huKY5DzrcLI

  • April 22, 2016 Get politics out of climate debate: Opposing view

    Science has taken a back seat at the United Nations. On this Earth Day 2016, there is a great deal of frenzy about how our Earth is going to become uninhabitable, as the civilized activities of man allegedly trigger unstoppable global warming and climate change.

    http://usat.ly/1SwHOsS

  • J Wayne Watson

    Proffessor Edso of Arizona State University did a long period study of the effects of CO2 and concluded that food production would increase by at least 30%. Trees grew faster, taller and crops did likewise while increasing all production. His study also bore out the fact that CO2 could only reach a certain amount and then level off. Warming is better than cooling as past ice ages and warm periods have shown. I have a video of the Edso study somewhere and I am sure that ASU can provide additional copies as well.

  • Isaiahdolan

    I trust our President, a Harvard-trained lawyer, who said ,

    “The world must come together to confront climate change. There is little scientific dispute that if we do nothing we will face more drought, famine and mass displacement that will fuel more conflict for decades.” President Obama.

    President Barack Obama said at a town hall event in Johannesburg, South Africa, on Saturday that unless we find new way of producing energy “the planet will boil over” if people in Africa are allowed to attain air conditioning, automobiles and big houses. (July1, 2013)

    • donojibway

      President Obama is not trained in climatology, or the statistics necessary to understand the influence of assumed values in the climate mathematical models. He repeats stuff he hears from discredited sources like Al Gore.

  • Tom Robbins

    Same old lying dictator

  • davejoson

    This climate change hysteria hype is just a diversion to remove laws and control away from country governments. Relinquishing control to a global body, in the name of a phony global climate change theme, to really just have a powerful central world government.