Activists demand UN ‘revoke’ credentials of ‘climate deniers’ in Paris – Claim ‘Climate Hustle’ film is ‘full of lies’ – without seeing it – Warn skeptics may ‘derail’ UN treaty


By: - Climate DepotDecember 6, 2015 12:01 PM with 1239 comments

The Australian reports:

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/climate/paris-climate-talks-greens-want-muzzle-on-climate-deniers/story-e6frg6xf-1227635826746

Paris climate talks: Greens want muzzle on ‘climate deniers’

THE AUSTRALIAN

Graham Lloyd – Environment Editor

Sydney: Green groups want alternative views on climate science silenced in Paris, with a call for delegates with contrarian opinions to be ejected from the UN talks.

Sceptic groups such as the Heartland Institute have started to arrive in the French capital, sparking fears among environment groups that they will derail proceedings using funds from fossil fuel interests.

A new documentary, Climate Hustle, was due to be premiered in Paris tonight (Monday). Producers claim it will be for nonbelievers what Al Gore’s Inconvenient Truth was for the converted.

Climate change action lobby group SumOfUs has pushed back with an international campaign to raise funds for a counter offensive.

The group has planned a major advertising campaign in France’s biggest-selling newspapers.

It has called on UN organisers to revoke the conference credentials “of the most disingenuous ­climate deniers”.

A fundraising letter, sent to Australian recipients from Paris, said “an army of polluter-funded global warming deniers have just arrived and are threatening to ­derail a serious international agreement”. It said some of the “world’s most notorious climate deniers” had crashed the French proceedings “in a last-minute ­attempt to derail the whole thing”.

“The Heartland Institute is running a full-on ‘counter conference’ of lying climate deniers and phony ‘scientists’,” SumOfUs said.

“One notorious oil industry-funded climate denier is debuting a documentary film full of lies and misinformation. (Climate Depot Note on Climate Hustle: This is a completely false. Climate Hustle movie was fully funded by the support of roughly 1,500 citizen supporters. More information is available at www.ClimateHustle.com/press)

“We are even hearing that James Inhofe — the US senator who wrote a book calling global warming the ‘greatest hoax ever perpetrated’ — is on his way.”

Tensions are heightened as the Paris talks for a global agreement enter their final week with deep ­divisions remaining over the target for global temperature rises, how national promises should be policed, who should pay and how often the process should be reviewed.

Within the Paris conference, there has been little debate about the state of climate science.

The question has been whether to limit rises to 2C or 1.5C, with Australia supporting the mention of a 1.5C target in the official text. But outside the conference, at venues in the centre of Paris, has been a who’s who of contrarian climate science personalities.

A three-day conference last week included presentations from Bob Carter, professor Murry Salby, professor Ian Plimer, Viscount Monckton and internat­ional journalist Donna Laframboise.

Dr Carter said the measures used by climate change believers could be explained by “normal natural variation”.

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Related Links:

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Morano on TV on why ‘Climate Hustle’ is different from other docs: ‘Comedy!’ ‘I want people to go see this film and laugh! And be entertained!’

Watch: Morano discusses upcoming premiere of ‘Climate Hustle’ in Paris at UN Summit

Read more: http://www.climatedepot.com/2015/12/05/morano-on-why-climate-hustle-is-different-from-other-documentaries-comedy-i-want-people-to-go-see-this-film-and-laugh-and-be-entertained/#ixzz3tYwMFrmD


  • 123db

    It seems very strange that people who are so convinced that truth is on their side, would be so scared of hearing an alternative view, that they want to ban them. Its like the Vatican wanting to remove all Atheists from a Christmas service, just in case they say that God doesn’t exist!
    Quite looking forward to seeing this movie – ironic that without the activists highlighting it, I would never have known it existed!

    • piotrugowski

      Normally you’d want the opposition which has ludicrous views to talk a lot – and embarrass themselves. In my country currently people warmed a bit up to nationalists because of the crazy actions on the left… but just let the nationalists speak (especially when they feel comfortable) and they immediately destroy themselves with gross prejudice, advocacy for violence and even genocide.

      • VendicarDecarian0

        Where are 100 million Bangladeshies going to evacuate to?

        • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

          Sea levels have been rising for 20,000 years. The current rate of 1-3mm/year has been the norm for centuries. Your use of the term ‘evacuate’ is silly.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Liar Liar.. Pants on fire.

            The rate of rise has doubled since the late 1800’s.

          • Who U Gettin Crazy Wit Ese

            http://powerline.wpengine.com/archives/2014/05/why-global-warming-alarmism-isnt-science-2.php

            The authors of the NCA report (and NOAA) want us to believe that sea level may rise as much as 6.6 feet by 2100 (86 years from now), a rate of sea level rise of 7.7 feet per century! That’s about twice the rate at which sea level rose while the huge Ice Age ice sheets melted under warming of tens of degrees per century. So where do the so-called scientists of this report think all this water will come from? Those huge Ice Age ice sheets no longer exist, so the only possible source is melting of the Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets? How likely is it that a 0.006% rise in CO2 is going to melt a significant portion of the Antarctic ice sheet? Probably zero to none. Why couldn’t the so-called scientists who authored the NCA report do the simple math? If they had even read the literature, this analysis has already been published (Morner, 2010).

            http://i2.wp.com/powerline.wpengine.com/ed-assets/2014/05/clip_image044.jpg?zoom=2&resize=303%2C233

          • VendicarDecarian0

            West Antarctica Glaciers Collapsing, Adding to Sea-Level Rise

            Scientists warn that the Thwaites glacier is sliding into the ocean.

            By Brian Clark Howard, National Geographic

            PUBLISHED TUE MAY 13 13:12:00 EDT 2014

            A massive glacier system in West Antarctica has started collapsing because of global warming and will contribute to significant worldwide sea-level rise, two teams of scientists warn in a pair of major studies released Monday.

            Scientists had previously thought the two-mile-thick (3.2 kilometers) glacier system would remain stable for thousands of years, but new research suggests a faster time frame for melting.

            A rapidly melting section of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet appears to be in irreversible decline and will sink into the sea, scientists at the University of California, Irvine and NASA reported Monday.

            “This retreat will have major implications for sea-level rise worldwide,” saidEric Rignot, a UC-Irvine Earth science professor and lead author of a study to be published in a journal of the American Geophysical Union.

        • Fred

          The sharks need to eat too. You can buy your $2 dollar tee shirts from China.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Well you won’t mind then if we harvest the bodies of denialists who are found hanging from trees for use as fish food and fertilizer.

          • minky

            “Well you won’t mind then if we harvest the bodies of denialists who are
            found hanging from trees for use as fish food and fertilizer”.

            You would be a disappointment to your heroes of the past if you forgot to mention lampshades and soap.

        • Shelby Ford

          Michael Moore’s house in Michigan!

        • Reder!c

          28220 comments – 10001 votes

          you’re just a troll who likes to play contrarian. sad little, little man with no life.

      • Who U Gettin Crazy Wit Ese

        Actually, nationalism continues to be on the rise all across Europe. A result of the violence, crime and increased welfare roles that third world immigration has brought about across the continent. Sadly, people like you are more concerned with being tolerant to the people that are turning your countries into violent hell holes then you are about the safety of your countrymen or holding on to your cultures. Hopefully the nationalists will continue to rise and marginalize you brainwashed lemmings.

        • MrGJG

          See, exactly like piotrogowski said, just let you guys talk and notice the racism, call to violence and talk of genocide. Oh wait, that’s not what you did. You actually make a lot of sense.

          • Who U Gettin Crazy Wit Ese

            Pio is just another left wing nut job who will tell you third world immigration is a great gain for Europe even though the statistics say otherwise. Take Sweden for example, where prior to Muslim immigration rape was almost unheard of, post Muslim immigration rape has skyrocketed (http://10news.dk/?p=1163). Did Swedish men all of a sudden become sexually crazed deviants? I think not. Yet pio will still stump for the outsiders, forsaking his own kind. Of course that is assuming Pio is not one of the outsiders.

          • John Scott

            They’ll just build a hockey stick graph, adjust a few dozen data points, and maybe turn it sideways to prove their point.

    • Sam

      For what it is worth I have never heard that the Vatican wants to remove all atheists from any Christmas service. To the contrary, the Catholic Church and most all Christian churches welcome everyone that behaves decently. I did not capitalize atheist because it is not a proper noun. I recognize that for some people it is a sort of religion and if it becomes more organized I will be happy to capitalize it. Of course, if it becomes organized the irony would be that it could no longer seek removal of religious symbols as the lack of symbols would be endorsement of the Atheist religion.

      • Marty

        it was a hyperbole to show how insane these leftist are..didn’t you get it?

        • VendicarDecarian0

          The neo-national razor will be coming to marty’s town soon enough.

          Will he need a shave?

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Ya. The difference is you see, that denialists have nothing but lies and ignorance on their side while the rest of us have science.

      • Marty

        it is actually quite opposite

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Liar liar.. Pants on fire.

          • Venril

            Hey, is that the discussion technique taught in your advanced physics classes?

            What are you, 12?

          • mack2

            Nah – he’s a professional troll. He’s a Palestinian living in Canada. Worked as a janitor at a High School in Ontario. Was arrested and (possibly) jailed for making threats against President Bush, as his trolling “went dark” for a period of time. He also posts as Scott Nudds, and Scott Douglas.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        The science supports the deniers.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Apparently not.

          • MrGJG

            Why do you guys have to manipulate data if the science is on your side? Why have none of your predictions of catastrophe come to pass? Why do Hollywood hypocrites jet set the corners of the earth while telling us common folk to bicycle to work?
            Why are less and less people buying into the narrative with each passing year?
            Again, why manipulate the data…doesn’t that give you pause?

  • VetMike

    Leave it to Liberals, SJWs and Greenies to use the threat of force or legal actions to silence the opposition.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Since ignoring the warming of the globe will result in a holocaust, there is no real distinction to be made between holocaust denial and warming denial.

      Global Warming denial is an act of treason against nature and man, and will be punished by execution in the no too distant future.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        On the contrary, denial of global warming is scientifically correct, and protected free speech.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          On the contrary denial of the holocaust is neither factually correct or protected free speech.

          Try again.

          • Story

            Just out of curiosity…. how do you KNOW as a “True Believer” that a slight warming of the atmosphere and increased CO2 will amount to the equivalent of a “holocaust”????

            Due to increased CO2, plant growth is one the rise and all predicted “holocaust’ activities of the planet (more powerful more frequent hurricanes, slowing or stopping of the Gulf Stream, snow a thing of the past (circa 2000), increased droughts and wild fires, coastal and low lying areas as well as barrier and island nations underwater…. all the horrible predictions based upon “Catastrophic AGM Theory” have not materialized over the course of the last 30 or so years as we were firewarned by the “climate experts”. So what EXACTLY makes you believe that a “warming holocaust” is in store??? You frackin’ fools are nothing more than the bearded robed figure in the old comics holding a sign stating “THE END IS NEAR!” and when it actually doesn’t occur you simply shuffle THE END further down the time line…. which is now so distant none of us will live to see nor be able to tell you how full of shite you were when it finally arrives. How convenient.

      • nikondvr

        I guess we should take you at your word and accept that you speak for the GW alarmists. That being said I then see no reason why the rest of the world should not begin to hunt down all GW alarmists and end them NOW. You have just declared war on behalf of you leftists after all.

  • Al Simmons

    Climate change is the Jihad of the left. If you don’t believe you are an infidel.

    • http://batman-news.com cdw

      Or, you are “liquidated.”

      On August 7, 1948, the V.I. Lenin Academy of Agricultural Sciences announced that from that point on Lysenkoism would be taught as “the only correct theory”. Soviet scientists were forced to denounce any work that contradicted Lysenko’s research. Criticism of Lysenko was denounced as “bourgeois” or “fascist”, and analogous “non-bourgeois” theories also flourished in other fields in the Soviet academy at this time. Interestingly, perhaps the only opponents of Lysenkoism during Stalin’s lifetime to escape liquidation came from the small community of Soviet nuclear physicists: as Tony Judt has observed, “It is significant that Stalin left his nuclear physicists alone and never presumed to second guess their calculations. Stalin may well have been mad but he was not stupid.”

      • VendicarDecarian0

        And that is why to this day we teach that bad odors and the wrath of the Moon God causes disease.

        • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

          Same thing as telling everyone that all weather anomalies are due to global warming.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            I’ve never seen any scientist claim that any weather anomaly was due to global warming.

            They all go out of their way to say that no single weather event can be so attributed, and add that the anomaly is consistent with what is anticipated to result from global warming.

            So why do you feel a need to lie about such things Greenheritic?

            Are you mentally ill?

          • Hodar

            You obviously are not paying attention. We have heard nearly every hurricane blamed on Global Warming, even mass shootings and civil unrest is being blamed on GW.

            Making up your facts, does not make them facts. It would appear that GW is your religion – even your choice of nouns speaks more of a religious connotation rather than any scientific debate. “Denier”, “Greenheritic” – I’m surprised you haven’t thrown down “Blasphemer” yet.

            We can debate the speed of light, the mass of an electron – yet GWT demand to silence any debate on climate change. This then, is apparently a religious debate, and has nothing to do with science; as any “Denier” is more than willing to discuss actual satellite telemetry, and unbiased earthbound data.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            “We have heard nearly every hurricane blamed on Global Warming, even mass shootings and civil unrest is being blamed on GW.” – Hodar

            Watching Fox news makes you stupid.

          • Eliot Dennis

            Watching MSNBC has rotted your brain.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Sorry Retardo… But I haven’t watched the boob tube since the year 2000.

            Capitalism has destroyed TV.

          • Who U Gettin Crazy Wit Ese

            Very original. Another display of your inferior intellect. Nothing more than an automaton programmed by your masters to spout off the same inane nonsense over and over and over again.

          • Shelby Ford

            Some people don’t need to watch Fox news to be stupid. You are living proof.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            When last measured my IQ was 160 to 180.

            How much lower is yours?

          • Jim

            Why are you arguing with them? You might as well beat your head against a brick wall for all the good it will do this lot. They’re projecting all their own insecurities and twisting everything you say for which my children and grandchildren will undoubtedly suffer in generations to come. We know climate change to be a fact now and, because their stubborn ego wont allow them to concede along with many of them being too afraid to face up to the truth, the rest of us have to bear the brunt of their inaction.

            Then they have the gall to continually decry it as a political issue of the left like parrots, despite it being something which effects us all universally. All because they selfishly want to the bidding of big business leaders, many of who wont be around in years to come after laughing themselves all the way to the bank (with a lot of that laughter directed towards their low-grade sycophants who got them there).

            No doubt someone may reply to this with some inarticulate response that will be liked by the minions (who revel in generic unoriginality) here telling me I’m being agressive. Well yes; because I’m angry. Storms and floods destroying livelihoods, along with our collective future going down the pan for generations to come. All for what? Selfish greed propped up by a shower of moral cowards.

          • Greg

            You clearly are.

          • Clausewitz

            There have been periods of global warming. The end of the ice age a case in point. There’s just no evidence of anthropomorphic climate change.

      • Stefan Williamson

        The proof that CO2 does not drive climate is to be found during the Ordovician- Silurian and the Jurassic-Cretaceous periods when CO2 levels were greater than 4000 ppmv (parts per million by volume) and about 2000 ppmv respectively; as opposed to our 390 ppmv today. If the IPCC theory is correct there should have been runaway greenhouse induced global warming during these periods but instead there was glaciation.

        • zcos

          Yep, and since it’s so obvious, they clearly have another agenda. (Global totalitarianism) You could give them all the evidence in the world and they will continue to lie about the science.

          “If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” Joseph Goebbels

          • Stefan Williamson

            Valid research is in fact leaning in the direction that perceived climate anomalies tend to be cyclic and heliocentric rather than in any way anthropogenic via (relative) miniscule anthropogenic contributions of C02 to perceived greenhouse anomalies. Milankovitch rotational anomalies (axial tilt & precession – orbital forcing) as well as Svensmark’s efforts around Cosmoclimatology were also (in my humble opinion) preoperational catalysts to CERN CLOUD (radiation driven particle cluster nucleation and cloud formation) and similar efforts showing the true cyclic nature of what is perceived to be anomalous climate change. It amazes me that with the mountains of contradictory evidence available, not to mention the complete and utter failure of the IPCCs models, the IPCC and Gore are still able to perpetrate the prodigious myth that a small fractional amount of of anthropogenic atmospherically suspended CO2 is somehow the culprit. AGW is in fact the hoax of the century; or of a couple of centuries.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Poor Stefan. He just doesn’t seem to get it that if it were the sun then the earth’s upper atmosphere would be warming.

            In fact it is seen to be cooling.

          • Stefan Williamson

            Do you understand the purpose of scientific modeling? Do you understand that if the models fail to show correlation with actual phenomenon that the theory they were designed to prove also fails? Do you understand that?

          • VendicarDecarian0

            All models are wrong. But they are often useful.

          • Stefan Williamson

            Balderdash! Models are designed to predict within predetermined margins given a margin for statistically relevant errors. In the case of the IPCC circulation algorithms, these are 20 year base models with predictive temperature rises of around .5 degrees C. The IPPC’s own measurements only show a rise of .06C (HadCRUT4 data from NOAA/IPCC). Failed models, failed theory…welcome to the trash heap of failed experiments.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Liar. Liar… Pants on fire.

            Hadcrut4 image below.

            Temperature rise 0.22’C

          • swimologist

            Garbage in, garbage out, dunce.

          • Kikker

            Wrong. The atmosphere is mostly heated by ground radiation, not directly from the sun. Long vs short wave.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            That is true for the lower atmosphere, but not for the thermosphere.

            The thermosphere is the layer of the Earth’s atmosphere directly above the mesosphere and directly below the exosphere. Within this layer, ultraviolet radiation causes photoionization/photodissociation of molecules present. Called from the Greekθερμός (pronounced thermos) meaning heat, the thermosphere begins about 85 kilometres (53 mi) above the Earth. At these high altitudes, the residual atmospheric gases sort into strata according to molecular mass (see turbosphere). Thermospherictemperatures increase with altitude due to absorption of highly energetic solar radiation. Temperatures are highly dependent on solar activity, and can rise to 2,000 °C (3,630 °F).

          • Clausewitz

            Heat in a planetary system happens when it reacts with a solid much higher than a gas. This is rudimentary 1st year climatology. That was why originally the ground based weather system monitoring devices had to be erected to a very well defined protocol. Funny thing was that about 25 years ago the protocols were changed so that most weather monitors were then housed at airports on concrete and asphalt as opposed to grassy fields. As an experiment, walk barefoot on the grass on a hot day in the summer, and then walk on concrete and asphalt, and then get back to us.

          • MrGJG

            You’re living proof that a sucker is born everyday. I wish I could be there to see the look on your face when you realize you’ve been had. And that day will come.

          • Jim Greaves

            In the “science” of predator-prey interactions, there are well-documented @20 year cycles, in which prey crashes precede predator crashes, and then it starts again. This can also be seen in rain cycles and El Nino and every other natural phenomenal cycle. Yet, politician and their political whores in science continue to promote apocalyptic predictions. “The sky is falling” approach to brainwashing. It IS working. It has been FOUR generations (10 years per) since the advent of the digital and computer age, and I can attest that my own children (3 decades since births) are sold on the mantra of the doom-sayers. Yet? That generations’ brilliant lights continue to twitter and tweet like stupid birds.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Denialists have been repeating the same lies for the last 30 years.

            They are true believers because of Gobbel’s tactic.

            Reality however, is quite different.

          • Michael Fitzgerald

            Here is the global sea ice graph. Not much of a trend.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Right on time Michael Fitzgerald shows up to confuse sea ice volume (my comment above) with sea ice extent (his comment)

            Apparently he doesn’t understand the difference between volume and area.

            Nevertheless what we see from his graph is a net loss of 2 million square kilometers of sea ice.

            This value is only temporary as it is raised by a temporary increase in Antarctic sea ice extent.

            Antarctic sea ice extent is already beginning to decline.

          • Michael Fitzgerald

            You’re refuted. Sorry, Wile E. Coyote (Super Genius); the Acme Data Transmogrifier has blown up in your face and all the blog readers are laughing at you. Oh, and your mother is calling down the basement stairs — she wants you to come up from your trolling and eat your SpaghettiOs. They are getting cold.

          • dougq

            Vendicar, all that arctic sea ice graph shows me is that it would take just 10 small seasonal pumping stations working just one winter in the arctic to pump up enough seawater in the frigid air to put Arctic sea ice volume at it’s ‘normal’ level.
            By small, I mean smaller than a pickup truck. Yet, you Marxists have it in your brain that instead of simple fixes that would require relatively little expenditure, you want to destroy all the capitalist countries you can.
            I cannot trust you are all the other global warming folks because it is so cheap and easy to solve, yet you insist on total global conquest to solve it.

        • rick

          **READ TO THE END**

          The Arctic Ocean is warming up, icebergs are becoming scarcer and in some places the seals are finding the water too hot, according to a report to the Commerce Department yesterday from Consulate, at Bergen, Norway.

          Reports from fishermen, seal hunters and explorers all point to a radical change in climate conditions and hitherto unheard-of temperatures in the Arctic zone.

          Exploration expeditions report that scarcely any ice has been met as far north as 81 degrees 29 minutes.

          Soundings to a depth of 3,100 meters showed the gulf stream still very warm.

          Great masses of ice have been replaced by moraines of earth and stones, the report continued, while at many points well known glaciers have entirely disappeared.

          Very few seals and no white fish are found in the eastern Arctic, while vast shoals of herring and smelts which have never before ventured so far north, are being encountered in the old seal fishing grounds.

          Within a few years it is predicted that due to the ice melt the sea will rise and make most coastal cities uninhabitable.

          * * * * * * * * *
          I neglected to mention that this report was from November 2, 1922, as reported by the AP and published in The Washington Post – 93 years ago!!!

          • Stefan Williamson

            The base for all AGW (climate change, climate disruption…whatever) hysteria is the IPCC and their climate models. These models ARE the heart and soul of the entire theory. These models have failed. Failed theory, end of story. In the IPCC’s own words:

            “According to most climate models, we should have seen temperatures rise by around 0.25 degrees Celsius (0.45 degrees Fahrenheit) over the past 10 years. That hasn’t happened. In fact, the increase over the last 15 years was just 0.06 degrees Celsius (0.11 degrees Fahrenheit) — a value very close to zero,”. .. “This is a serious scientific problem that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) will have to confront when it presents its next Assessment Report late next year.”
            – United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change lead author Hans von Storch

          • VendicarDecarian0

            The trend has actually been 0.3’C over the last 20 years, or about .15’C per decade.

            An average of 90 CMP 5 model runs project a rise of about 0.44’C rise over the same period.

            Some are speculating that the models are running a bit hot. But we won’t know that for another decade or so.

          • Stefan Williamson

            You can choose to look at this in one of two ways:

            1. You believe UAH data (raw satellite data) which gives an unbiased image of what’s going on across the entire planet and shows net ZERO temperature increase over the past 20 years.

            -or-

            2. You can choose to believe NOAA/IPCC HadCRUT4 data (data from questionably placed ground bases which is extrapolated, adjusted, and manipulated) which shows a slight global temperature increase.

            Endorsing option 1 is believing what your eyes are telling you.

            Endorsing option 2 is believing what the IPCC/NOAA tells you that you ought to see even though your eyes are telling you something different.

            Your choice; I choose option 1.

          • Jim Greaves

            My definition of religious zealot is one who “sees it when he believes it”. Al Gore and all the little sheep and lemmings he leads are religious zealots. And they are the same type of people who called Galileo a heretic!

          • VendicarDecarian0

            What do you see, denialist Zealot?

          • betterthanu

            An idiot propaganda swallower alarmist fool

          • starzzguitar

            This graph is supposed to show an increase, right? And it’s an increase WITHIN a degree. One degree. Within 20 years, well within any margin of error. So basically there has been NO real measurable increase in 20 years. So who is the Zealot crazy person here?

          • http://www.therightperspective.org/Audio/nimshows/ BigBoa

            They’re fond of claiming “deniers” ignore “science”….

            Yet, they are every bit as fond, if not more so, of denying math.

          • Bruce Darling

            They are guilty of misusing math.

          • 1tymtrvlr

            Look, I watched that documentary, the Day before Yesterday, and it clearly shows that the Statue of Liberty got swept away by a tidal wave, that the ocean water rose at least, I’m saying at least 20 feet. And what about the ships cruising down the main drag, carrying wild wolves, they have it all on film. Not to mention that new series ” Madam Secretary”, hillary’s life and accomplishments are so great and outstanding they had to make it a series, not just a 2 or 3 night mini series, but an ongoing, season after season series. So, let me show you a graph my grandaughter made in school, forgive the blue and red crayon colors. She was able to predict that the Sun would be at it’s full apex at noon, or 12:00.

          • Story

            Dude! It’s not even within ONE degree…. it starts at 8.35 and ends at 8.8. That’s supposed to be .45 degrees extrapolated on a WORLD WIDE scale…. less than one half a degree. IT’S BULL EXCREMENT!!!!

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Isn’t it interesting how 4 independent temperature reconstructions, all using different methods, converge on the same result?

          • Clausewitz

            A poorly extrapolated graph. Climate is not measured in decades, but in centuries and millennia. Like most progressives you take everything out of context in an effort to alleviate your feelings. Transpose the solar output in compliance with earth temperatures and you get a much more closely aligned correlation. But them Al Gore tried to tell us that Global Warming was responsible for sun spot activities.

          • Obama Loves ISIS

            I’ll bet you want people burned at the stake for not believing you .

          • Common_Dense

            Here’s some actual temperature history. The idea that we’re facing catastrophic global warming is beyond absurd.

          • RealAmerican

            Ack! The ice age ended because of power plants powered by fossil fuels. It says so tight in your graph! /leftist climate cultist

          • VendicarDecarian0

            You do realize, don’t you, that Central Greenland is…

            1. Not globally Representative.

            2. in the middle of a vast glacier.

            3. Your graphic has a year 0 which is really 1905

            Using data from the last 110 years omitted in your graph, we get.

          • Common_Dense

            We’re still nowhere near the hottest temperatures in history. I do wonder if someone as brilliant as you could explain 2 things for stupid people like me. What caused our temperatures to rise and fall so rapidly 12,000 years ago. What happened in 1905 that drove the temperatures so high and so quickly and why hasn’t that trend continued over the last 30 years?

          • VendicarDecarian0

            So given that your graph is a well known fraud, what does that say about you?

            Have you been taken as a stupid sucker?

            Or are you purposely lying?

          • Common_Dense

            Clearly I’m a stupid sucker, could you show me where it is well known to be a fraud?

          • parabellum

            I see a long slow road to 40 degrees warmer, where I start to have to think about some wardrobe changes. (But I must admit to falling for your static analysis approach. Dynamic analysis says I have to wait even longer.)

          • Froddoislost

            A corrupt data set and a brainwashed zealot.

          • The_RS_Gadfly

            I see a liar making fake charts.

          • Ed C

            A junk model that’s based on false data.Even NOAA has been caught lying on their model calculations.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Sorry boy but the above graph consists of measurements, not modeling.

            It is laughable that you don’t know the difference.

            At what grade did you drop out of public school?

          • Name

            Incidents of Koran inspired terrorist acts around the globe?

            Now instead of a y axis of point 3 to point 85 put the left Y axis at 0 to 100 and reprint that please……

          • lostinnm

            All I see is man made clouds destroying our once blue sky in NM.
            Climate change is man made…look up!

          • PBO

            Man Made Clouds?? Are you talking about HARP or something like cloud seeding? Or are you saying that global warming is causing more clouds??

          • lostinnm

            I’m saying we are being sprayed like bugs daily with their weather warfare. I see it almost daily, the planes that crisscross our sky and follow the track of the sun. My solar home is less efficient by 25%+ due to these man made clouds. The proven fact that aluminum in soil and water is off the scale, patents on the process… Don’t ignore this, your grand kids will thank you.

          • PBO

            The Military did use aluminum for radio communications but now they use satellites as repeaters. The radio signals bounced off the aluminum partials. They use sodium to seed clouds, this is a commercial enterprise and you can hire people to do it. There is a big outfit in North Dakota that travels all over the world seeding clouds. since there is little agriculture in New Mexico they wouldn’t waste their time seeding clouds over your house. I have spoken to people like you that believe in all this stuff and to be honest I think you use it as an excuse for your poor contribution to society, Like I couldn’t do better because XXXX kept me from achieving my potential.

          • lostinnm

            Ha,Ha…I could buy and sell you. I’m doing just fine and have been active in my community for years…UR clueless.

          • PBO

            I know you can’t buy me or sell me… Are you saying you believe in slavery??? Buying and selling people is only something an elitist would say. Being active doesn’t mean you have contributed now does it?? Keep replying because this is fun for me and you do serve a purpose to me, it entertains me.

          • odys

            I thought the earth’s crust was 78% aluminum bauxite. So no surprise they’d find aluminum there.

          • lostinnm

            Should NEVER be found in rainwater or snow, the soil tests are off the scale.

          • Cliff Williams

            just put on your tin-foil hat. You’ll be ok then!

          • lostinnm

            Breath deeply dude

          • 2inthehat

            If I were you, I’d be more concerned with the aluminum in your tin foil hat.

          • lostinnm

            You kids will not thank you for ignoring this issue.
            Cognitive dissonance can kill you.

          • 2inthehat

            Last time I checked, ignoring alarmist’s debunked claims of impending global disaster was of no consequence whatsoever.

          • no1unohere

            I notice you have no response for Stefan Williamson. Convenient.

          • Bullet Tooth Tony

            you were saying, sock puppet?

          • 2inthehat

            No one is impressed with your graph. Try posting something interesting, like something from an etch-a-sketch.

          • Richard

            And even if you chose Option 2, there is insufficient support for their theories.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            According to the chief scientist at RSS systems, which produces the RSS satellite record, the surface temperature record is more reliable and more trustworthy than the satellite record.

            Further, satellites don’t measure surface temperatures, but measure the average of a deep swath of air centered at 4 km for the readings they get for the lowest levels of the atmosphere that they can probe.

            You poor Retard.

          • betterthanu

            You are truly a mental midget picking minority extremist quotes you putz

          • VendicarDecarian0

            “A similar, but stronger case can be made using surface temperature datasets, which I consider to be more reliable than satellite datasets (they certainly agree with each other better than the various satellite datasets do!).”

            Carl Mears Chief Scientist RSS – Remote Sensing Systems..

          • Obama Loves ISIS

            Sane people are laughing at your mental illness.

          • no1unohere

            He doesn’t care. He has his head firmly placed where the sun don’t shine.

          • 2inthehat

            The one place he is safe from GLOBAL WARMING.

          • PBO

            Here is what Mr. Carl Mears has concluded. To pull one sentence from what he posted is a disservice to the argument.
            His Conclusion:

            My view is that the subduction of heat into the ocean is very likely a
            significant part of the explanation for the model/observation
            discrepancies. What is less clear is whether or not this subduction is
            due to random fluctuations in the climate, or some sort of response to
            anthropogenic forcing. An important question is now ‘how long will the
            enhanced trade winds continue?’. The trade wind anomaly lessened during
            2013, but we do not know whether this change will persist over the next
            few years and lead a positive phase of the IPO, or if the IPO will take
            longer to flip to its other phase.

            I’ll conclude by reiterating that I do not expect that the hiatus and
            model/observation discrepancies are due to a single cause. It is far
            more likely that they are caused by a combination of factors.
            Publications, blog posts and media stories that try to pin all the
            blame on one factor should be viewed with some level of suspicion,
            whether they are written by climate scientists, journalists, or climate
            change denialists.

          • Shelby Ford

            This is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever read, and coming from an alleged “high energy physicist”, no less. In your “scientific” travels, have you ever heard the term VARIANCE, R-squared? The beauty of satellite data is (1) it’s consistent; (2) it’s more difficult to screw with it, and, thus, it can show REAL trends and differences and rates of change, consistently. Ground station data is inconsistent, unreliable, subject to different metering equipment, calibration protocols, and can be readily manipulated and cooked by global warming fanatics like James Hansen from NASA.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            “A similar, but stronger case can be made using surface temperature datasets, which I consider to be more reliable than satellite datasets (they certainly agree with each other better than the various satellite datasets do!).”

            Carl Mears Chief Scientist RSS – Remote Sensing Systems.

          • mack2

            Ahhh, yes Carl Mears Chief Scientist (and Sales Manager) at RSS – who wants to convince you that THERE remote sensing systems are the ones to buy, not those pesky satellite systems that have the potential to put RSS out of business.

          • billyboi57

            100% hocum. You poor jackleg.

          • guest

            yep your a progressive, cannot win the argument so go to 4th grade mode and start degrading and calling names. Of course when you see a argument that is not true and is going to come back and haunt you because it is the opposite of what you said, you change the name like from “Global Warming” to “Climate Change” this way if the weather comes and warms a bit the stupidity of the American voter plus the stupidity of all environmentalist they depend on can say see told you. And if the weathers changes and cools a bit the stupidity of the American voter plus the stupidity of all environmentalist they depend on can say see told you. And you and many more seem to come to there aid.

          • vutsrq

            Do you never tire of being grubered, global warming hoax believer?

          • Judy Cross

            The surface temperature record was subject to heavy Urban Heat Island effects and then there is the mater of cherry picky and altering data. AGW is a government sponsored fraud.

            You poor dis-informationalist.

          • parabellum

            Give me a few million dollar grants, and I’ll believe whatever they tell me to.

          • JohnnyGreen

            I dont know much about climate change on how the numbers are added up but even I know when you put sensors on the ground you can get different readings. How do I know? I install weather stations and irrigation smart controllers in California. Putting these things in just the wrong place can get you different readings.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Why would I believe the UAH data when RSS – another satellite record – shows something different.

            And why would I not believe Carl Mears, Chief Scientist at RSS when he writes…

            “A similar, but stronger case can be made using surface temperature datasets, which I consider to be more reliable than satellite datasets (they certainly agree with each other better than the various satellite datasets do!).”

          • discovinny

            NASA in 1990: “Don’t trust the ground stations, trust the satellites.” — http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/122096963

            The website surfacestations.org show that only 1.2% of the US ground weather stations meet NOAA required standards for a Stevenson screen. If the US which has some of the best weather stations are so poor, how can you trust the ground stations? That is why NASA said to trust satellites back before politics entered the debate.

            I choose to believe the side that demands scientists follow the scientific method; that is not the people in Paris. I choose to believe verifiable data; that is not what the people in Paris want. Please do yourself a favor: ask questions, verify, research. Those 3 things will make you the bane of the climate change movement.

          • Jim Greaves

            “Scientific Method” when I was in schools (high and college) was that one postulated a hypothesis, and the purpose of ALL data collection was to DISPROVE it. Science has been turned on its head since the 1960s when everything done in its name was to “prove” the hypothesis. Science is NOT FDA “approval” of a drug as clearly evidenced by the FACT that they issue huge volumes of disclaimers and lists of side-effects that show the drugs to be more harmful, in many cases, than the ailment they are issued to the public to abate! It is time for government to get out of science, and scientists to be cut off from tax grants.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Denialists have been trying their best to disprove the reality of global warming for the last 30 years.

            So far all they have done is generate laughter from the people watching them fail, fail and fail some more.

          • GD in VA

            According to this chart, there is a 3.29 millimeter increase per year. You’re telling us that we can accurately measure a 3.29 mm difference in the level of the ocean, noting that oceans cover 70% of the earth? What’s he uncertainty on the measurements for the data points on this chart? I find it very difficult to believe that we can measure such a small change with any accuracy give all the other factors that could affect this measurement. Things like continental shift, which affects mean surface level, could overwhelm such a small measured change. Other effects will also play havoc on a 3.29 mm per year measurement. That’s about one eighth of an inch a year! I’m guessing that’s well within the margin of error for this kind of global measurement.

          • RealAmerican

            I noticed you did not source this graph. Let me guess, algore or huffpoo. Your lies have been dis-proven on many occasions. You can change the data all you like, it doesn’t make it fact. You are dismissed.

          • https://web.archive.org/web/20140320095106/http://home.comcast.net/~htos1/ 2jeffwilliams

            IF we have grants to science, they MUST be double-blind.

          • Bill Powell

            Yes, absolutely… government pays ‘scientists’ for results. If these people found there was nothing to worry about, that would be the end of the grants.

          • cmdprompt

            Don’t you know, that whole scientific method thing doesn’t apply to “Climate Science”.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Satellites don’t measure surface temperatures, but measure the average of a deep swath of air centered at 4 km for the readings they get for the lowest levels of the atmosphere that they can probe.

            You poor Retard.

          • parabellum

            Can you find a way to play your little doomsday games without my money?

          • Jim Greaves

            How about, “we won’t know that for another epoch or two from now”?

          • disqus_fBUZDmRQZV

            Another journey into the pointless weeds of climate change. As much as I appreciate the billions of man hours which went into your remake of the hockey stick, thanks but no thanks.

            Why so blase? Because it doesn’t matter. You lost the public in 2007 and with each passing year you’ll lose a little bit more support. Someday soon even your masters in the political class will realize the crusade isn’t gaining any converts, that your faith’s power to rationalize and justify their floundering social-democratic order is minimal.

            What happens then, Vendicar? Are you ready for the gradual slide into irrelevance?

            Enjoy your NOAA grants while you can.

          • Ed C

            So,whats the down side? Assuming your right…which your not.

          • no

            If AGW were settled science, then there would be only one climate model. And, that model would be both accurate and precise forecasting future climate.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Don’t be silly.

            I can show you a half dozen spring models, and yet the science about springs has been settled for centuries.

          • MicheleLloyd

            Which part has been settled the ‘spring forward’ part or the ‘spring back’ part?

          • parabellum

            I just know I’ll gladly spring forward and lose an hour of sleep for warmer weather.

          • no

            Nope all spring models are F=kx.

            k may be a complex function of a number of physical parameters and x is resolvable vector that may be raised to a power, for nonlinear, elastic materials.

            Same fundamental model, but seeking precision.

          • Bill the Cat

            LOL… Had you thought about it, you might have realized that your post probably does more to disprove your argument than otherwise :)

          • 2inthehat

            A bit less complicated than climate. Wouldn’t you say? Just a bit.

          • rick

            AGW is a settled science, it is an abbreviation for “Al Gore, Wacko.” (In his case it’s an actual title) https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/24fc5c17b2ec5c609d8820c1275fef028031867c10917b3408b928d93062e7a7.png

          • CLIMATE CHANGE IS TAX SCAM

            The solution that govts propose for climate change is more taxes, which are payable to Al Gore and all the other carbon exchange scammers.
            Americans are already victims of govt tax scams with an illegal income tax.
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            2.
            -Income Not Exempt- aka, The list of Taxable Income
            26 CFR 1.861-8T(d)(2)(iii)
            “Income that is not considered tax exempt. The following items are not considered to be exempt, eliminated, or excluded income

            (A) In the case of a foreign taxpayer … gross income (whether domestic or foreign source)
            (B) gross income of a DISC or a FSC; [means Domestic International Sales Corp, Foreign Sales]
            (C) gross income of a possessions corporation
            (D) Foreign earned income as defined in section 911”

            Do you make Foreign earned income? No? Then according to code (law), you don’t owe any income tax. As usual, politicians are stealing money from citizens under color of law.

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          • largejack

            It’s more than about taxes; it’s also about controlling the world’s resources and reducing populations.

          • TheAntiProgressive

            Yes try on Maurice Strong and Eugenics. The Climate Change crowd at the UN believe mother earth can only “sustain” a certain amount of people. Very small and the rest of the population present today needs to be culled to create a sustainable future.

          • BSORaiderErie

            Yes, and that’s why they support Planned Parenthood while worrying about the weather. This is all about tax and spend at the World level.
            God Bless the USA and Springfield Armory!

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          • Mark Moser

            Taxes are nice too. However, the real reason behind the reasons is one world government. They are after global control and the means to make changes everywhere uniformly. They need something big and scary to get all the players to agree to becoming one great big melting (pardon the pun) pot. AGW is tailor made if they can sell it. Taxes are an after thought, but a good one! Their goals are much bigger and much more restrictive for the common folk than you can imagine. Eugenics, and a lot of other abominations are on their short list and all to save the human race. The more evidence reveilles the hoax the louder and more urgent alarmist will get. Their claims of catastrophe and their manufacture of evidence to support their claims will become more dire and much bolder, as the evidence move away from sustaining their hypothesis. Lying 101, when your backs up against the wall, double down and scary the crap out of them. It’s called the bluff… call them.

          • largejack

            And another reason they’re trying to glue terrorism and global warming into the same New World Order agenda. Remember prince Charles and Bernie Sanders comments about climate change causing terrorism?

          • tarheel

            And a redistribution of wealth to countries with populations that blame all their hardships on western countries in order to stick their hand out and into our pockets.

          • TheAntiProgressive

            Many of these themes Global Warming, climate change and sustainability are grown or a subset from the UNs Agenda 21 program and ICLEI, the Agenda 21 non-government (NGO) advocacy arm. ICLEI is present in many, many cities and towns all over the country. They promote this radical environmental policy often through the term “sustainability”.

            The other gem from the UN IPCC was the quote In Nov. 2010, Ottmar Edenhoffer, one of the co-chairs of the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), said in an interview with German NZZ Online,

            “One must say clearly that we redistribute defacto the world’s wealth by climate policy. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy.”

            Yeah Otto, no illusion here, we got it.

          • largejack

            Every tyranny invariably starts with spurious taxes, but it never ends there. They like to watch us fund our own enslavement. It gives them some kind of morbid pleasure I think, and also creates the revenue and the pretext to do what ever they like next.

          • RealAmerican

            Instead, all of their predictions have been wrong and the models highly inaccurate.

          • robnbc

            Yet every scientific organization on the planet endorses the AGW view and the permafrost is melting, oceans are warming, rising and becoming acidic, extreme weather events occurring more frequently and we have had a decade of record temperatures..

          • PaulB

            You realize all that you said is a lie. Highest permafrost in decades, only a handful of scientists support AGW as a cause to any significant degree, no oceans rising, falsified temperature data, weather isn’t even related to any of that. Try checking real data for a change.

          • largejack

            The rich all buying seafront properties?

          • Barry O’brien

            False, false, and false. The MEMBERS of those organizations don’t agree with the political statements made by their boards. Richard Lindzen has a piece that explains how this was done with political appointments. The oceans have been rising slightly for centuries. They are alkaline, not acidic. Are you really that dumb? They would need to become neutral before they could begin to become acidic. But more importantly, there is no legitimate trend in ph, only minor fluctuation. Do you really think a trace gas in an atmosphere that is itself a trace volume of the oceans could affect the ph? What about the hundreds of billions of tons of salts washing off the continents and into the oceans?

          • Bruce Darling

            Is he really THAT dumb? Seems that he is.

          • robnbc

            To be credible you need sources other than Fox News – google “climate change” (published research ) and you will find 2.44 MILLION studies of which 99% are consistent with AGW. Some hoax :)

          • William Hofmeister

            Again you are making stuff up. No one believes your BS any longer.

          • robnbc

            The pope does – or is he part of the world wide scientific conspiracy against fossil fuels use ???

          • concretetundra

            Yeah but once a story gets linked on Drudge there’s almost no point in arguing facts.

          • largejack

            Then go back to The Guardian and you’ll find many of your sycophant friends?

          • 2inthehat

            Liberal ‘facts’ aren’t facts at all. These AGW ‘facts’ are not facts either. In order to argue ‘facts’ with a liberal it requires getting lost in the fun house right along with them. Most of us prefer not to.

          • Rob Billeaud

            I can publish a “research study” on the Internet, idiot. It’s meaningless. I can take any set of statistics you want and make them say anything I want (at least I got some use out of my Jesuit education).

          • robnbc

            Do you vaccinate your children ???

          • robnbc

            you might want to check with the jesuits who advised the pope on his climate encyclical :)

          • 2inthehat

            You should be a thinking individual and ask yourself some very important questions: Why are they trying to manufacture consensus? Why are they trying to muzzle all opposing view points? These are NOT things people who are interested in real science would ever even consider! This is not science! These AGW oracles have even been caught trying to silence opposition papers in scientific journals. It’s a HOAX!

            Here, let me help http://wwwDOTtheguardianDOTcom/environment/georgemonbiot/2010/feb/02/climate-change-hacked-emails

          • robnbc

            As you probable well know, an independent analysis found nothing but some bickering and egotism in the 100s of hacked emails but NOTHING that invalidated the DATA collected by CRU. There are 1000s of studies from independent sources that are consistent with AGW that you can look up online yourself to check accuracy, methodology and fair analysis. THATS how science works!

          • 2inthehat

            Lets try this again: “Why are they trying to manufacture consensus? Why are they trying to muzzle all opposing view points?”
            Is THAT how science works? lol

          • robnbc

            Who is THEY ??? What is it about 100,000s of studies from 1000s of INDEPENDENT sources that you are not getting? The consensus comes from observing the same phenomenon. There is a strong consensus that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. – no hoax there either, the world is in fact roundish.

          • 2inthehat

            Oh for Christ sake. Who is ‘they?’ Do you think perhaps I’m referring to the IPCC?
            For the THIRD TIME: “Why are they trying to manufacture consensus? Why are they trying to muzzle all opposing view points?” That is not how science works. If you are actually concerned about science those facts should throw up big red flags for you.

          • Steve

            You obviously don’t know nor do you understand science. Let’s try this….

            Global temperatures have not warmed for going on 18 years even as CO2 increased 12%. Sea level rises have dropped in half globally to just 4 inches per century. Global hurricane activity is at a 30+ year low. Sandy produced devastation but it was barely a CAT 1 storm on landfall. We had 8 major hurricanes hit the east coast from 1938 to 1960.There were 142 fewer tornadoes in 2013 than any year on record and despite two big fires made worse by environmental pushback on thinning and brush removal, the number of wildfires was the lowest since reliable records began in 1984. We are told we are seeing rapid increases in heat records, but the state all time heat records tell another story. 23 of the 50 occurred in the 1930s, 38 before 1960 and there have been more all-time cold records than heat records since the 1940s.

            The only phenomena that has increased is the one that NOAA, the IPCC and Union of Concerned Scientists (really environmental activists) that now occupy our universities told our ski and maple sugar industry would be the one that would vanish…snow. In 2007, 2012 and again early this year, they advised industry and our legislature that the ski and
            sugar industry would die here. 2007/08 broke records for the most snow in northern and central New England. Last year we had the super blizzards of February and March and this year is well above normal here and ranking in the top 10 in most cities from the east to Midwest and even for several locations converging on #1. For the hemisphere 4 of the 5 highest snowcover years have occurred in the last 6 years. But instead of admitting to their mistakes (and I
            have just presented the tip if the iceberg of failings), they claim whatever happens Is consistent with their theories. They have created a non falsifiable hypothesis by claiming both sides of every extreme or possible occurrence, even cooling.

            Einstein noted a model or a hypothesis cannot “prove” anything. But data can invalidate a hypothesis or model. “The case is never closed. Many experiments may prove me right BUT IT TAKES ONLY ONE TO PROVE ME WRONG.”

          • Steve

            You do realize that the organization that investigated the climategate emails was the same organization who was lying to begin with, correct?
            If all of this is available to the public, why won’t the NOAA produce the documents explaining why they adjusted (manipulated) the temperatures for the last 15 years?
            Dear genius, can you tell us what % of the atmosphere is made up of CO2 and what percent of that CO2 is caused by humans? (Play Jeopardy music now….)

          • Mike

            You sound like a climate change sap … or sucker ,,, whichever you prefer. You own a car robNBC? A furnace? An air conditioner? If you answered yes to any of those, please help out Mother Earth and go off yourself.

          • robnbc

            Why because I reference actual science and not your Fox News talking points ? You live in an echo chamber.

          • Mike

            What science? You didn’t reference any science! You gullible fool! Answer my questions … do you own a car, a furnace or an air conditioner? If so, quit pushing your Climate Change bull$hit religion and STFU!

          • robnbc

            Actually I drive a hybrid, my heat comes from hydro and I don’t use an air conditioner – its not that hard to reduce one’s carbon footprint. There are 2.5 MILLION scientific references to climate change (check google scholar) – I suspect your sources are Fox News talking points. I am guessing you are also a ditto head.

          • Mike

            You hypocrite! Hybrids still use gas and, unless you are off the grid, you have no way to verify your source of electricity is coming from a renewable source! Utilities now operate under regional system operators. They direct which electricity source runs and when. You could be using that dirty COAL!!! to power your little golf cart of a car … rather than wind power or hydro! And on top of all of that, YOU EXHALE CARBON DIOXIDE!!! Your libtard face should be plastered all over the place as a freakin’ HEATHEN! Better look out … the rest of the Church of Climate Change is gonna come after you!

          • robnbc

            Mike you sound like an angry guy – its OK to be old and out of it.

          • Mike

            Nope, not angry. Just intolerant of stupidity.

          • Fred Pal

            I think there is no hoax. Climate scientist are people that are after the truth. Based on their theories their computer models predict humans may have an influence on the earths climate.
            Barry O’brien only points out common sense though. If CO2 is a trace gas (0.03%) how can it effect the PH of oceans? It is an enormous water mass, so basic chemistry says that cannot be done. He is only asking a very decent question. Insulting you however was not necessary. I you want to convince people you should answer these questions instead of avoiding them.

          • robnbc

            And I should believe you rather than 99% of the best scientists who have been working in this area for decades because ?
            Do conservatives really want to identify themselves with “birthers”, xenophobes and fossil fuel funded PR flaks? NASA
            lands rovers on Mars or do you think that was a hoax too? If you think this is all made up then check the OCO2 data for yourself.
            Or the ARGO data set, or the NOAA data set, or the Greenland ice core data set, or the Mona Lau observatory data but be careful
            because reality has a well know liberal bias :)

          • Barry O’brien

            Wow. There’s a lotta puke in your comment, but not much sense. Rambling. Rather incoherent.

            There is no 99% (or oft claimed 97%) agreement of man made Klimate koo koo…. only libstain “reality” filled with such delusions. I’ve examined these “papers” quite thoroughly.

            You haven’t thought about this issue very carefully, have you?

            The entire story of Klimate kookery is held together by fewer than 25 delusional nutballs who have declared themselves “Oracles” of Earth’s temperature. They adjust and tweak, and blatantly disregard data that doesn’t fit their religion. Then they apparently pray to the Klimate god for magic numbers to fill vast gaps in the data set, and finally, make a proclamation. This is what passes for that “reality” in the libstain world.

            Most of the “Scientists” you refer to don’t study temperature. They study everything from squirrel mating rituals to the number of berries in bear scat. Some take a pleasure cruise to the Arctic, watch a glacier calve some ice, and oooh and ahhh at the “horror” of ice melting. So, when they say they “believe” Klimate Koo koo is real, it is merely that they believe the claims of a higher overall temperature average….. as reported by the 25 nutballs in the previous paragraph.

            I DO look directly at data. (and the absence of data) That’s why I know the Klimate scam is a scam.

          • 2inthehat

            Nice try. Attacking the ethos of those who disagree with you is a pretty weak and obvious tactic when you feel you’re losing an argument.

          • robnbc

            Are you expecting Trump style plitical correctness?I you look at the range of comments here you will see they are looking for ideological affirmation NOt scientific evidence which they can get from the public record.

          • Steve

            I’ve come to the conclusion that you are just too stupid to talk to. You have zero idea what you are talking about. You will believe anything any incompetent left wing zealot will tell you. Michael Mann is probably your hero. (He belongs in prison by the way.)

          • Cliff Williams

            and the tooth fairly puts money under your pillow,

          • Flipperj

            Get off the drugs or kool aid libtard

          • William Hofmeister

            The lefties that push this agenda the most are the ones with the least actually science backgrounds. With them it is a religion, as they don’t really understand what they are screeching about.

          • largejack

            No it’s 99% of a panel of some 70 hand picked UN scientists actually. So yes in that case, I guess the 99% is fairly accurate.

          • libwithIQ

            If permafrost is “melting” then how the hell are ice caps on the north and south pole growing? This information came from NASA by the way.

          • robnbc

            Thats B.S and you probably know it.

          • William Hofmeister

            Not even close to being true. Where do you get this nonsense?

          • robnbc

            Go to Googlw scholar and search “climate change” – you will get 2,4 MILLION hits – 99% of which support AGW – I know where you get YOUR nonsense – Fox News. If Trump says its a hoax that pretty much guarantees that its true. :)

          • rickroland

            LOL, google search of AGW related hits is your evidence? You’re an absolute joke!

          • robnbc

            Do you understand that Google SCHOLAR searches ALL articles published in academic journals – Google doesn’t make them up. It is hard to tell a humorous conservative wind up from a genuinely ignorant ring-wing numbskull. :)

          • largejack

            Yes they all sing from the same hymn sheet. Duh, it’s a political, corporative, scientific fascist agenda! It’s a New World Order. When will it sink in?

          • largejack

            And where do these scientific organisations get their funding me wonders? Are you trying to tell me they’re their own authority in these matters? In East Anglia they were caught blatantly cheating and an ‘inquiry’ came along that basically exonerated them in a way that would make Lord Hutton or Lord Chilcock blush.

          • robnbc

            Why don’t you actually go and read the research and decide for yourself if the methodology is valid, if the data is consistent, if the analysis is fair. There are over a million studies done by thousands of scientists working for hundreds of different organizations. Unlike politicians and faux news sources, fudging data in a scientific study would destroy someones reputation. Even Exxon corps scientists have concluded that fossil fuel use was a major contributor to global warming for the LAST 20 YEARS – Exxon executives chose to ignore their own scientists.

          • RealAmerican

            Wrong. Only the useless organizations that get the vast amount of their money from what was stolen from us. Again, if these “scientists” would quit cherry picking or outright lying about the numbers, they may have credibility. But instead they are just stuck on stupid, because tis what the marxists want. These “scientists” have no desire to be out in the cold, when they can lie and get millions of ill gotten gains.

          • Steve

            And Mr. Brainwashed has arrived. Are you ignorant about everything or just this global warming hoax? You do know that govt. scientists have spent the last 20 years revising old temperatures downward and recent temperatures upwards, correct? If you don’t do some research, because there is your “global warming”.
            Maybe you should reference REAL scientists whose paychecks aren’t dependent on regurgitating the same bs over and over again.

          • William Hofmeister

            You know in science when a hypothesis is shown to be wrong you change it, not double down on stupid.

          • largejack

            Not if it’s political you don’t. Not if it is at the forefront of how they want to change the world you don’t. Not unless you want to find yourself ostracized very quickly or worse. These are not nice people to deal with.

          • tarheel

            As a as a great example the last hurricane, Joquan, every computer model save one showed it slamming in to the east coast 10 days out. Of course as it got closer the models had to change. However if they can not predict 10 days out…..how the hell can they predict 5, 10, 20, 50 years out.

          • Sam Pyeatte

            The far-left nut-jobs must be in a panic to be so scared of us “deniers”. This is evidence their climate fraud is in a perpetual slow state of crumbling due to the unpredictability of climate change, which is always happening.

          • no1unohere

            They’re SO desperate, they’re now turning to established religion to push their message. They already have the pope in their back pocket and now they’re seeking other Liberal religious groups to cram their message.

          • robnbc

            Yah – the pope is now part of our worldwide conspiracy and we just got Exxon to admit they knew about climate change for 50 years the same way tobacco companies knew about cancer. Now Exxon sponsors alternate energy projects and calls for costing carbon. Trump and Gore have an green energy partnership but Trump has to create some hysteria around terrorists to distract his high school dropout crowd and gun nuts.

          • no

            They do not even acknowledge the mathematical limitations of nonlinear systems that are sensitive to initial conditions, see E Lorenz, MIT Prof, father of modern chaos theory. That puzzles me greatly and makes me wonder if the modelers will say anything to get funding. I agree with them that it is an interesting problem to work on. But you still have to be able to look at yourself in the mirror.

          • Sam Pyeatte

            In order for models to have a chance at working, all the variables must be accurately modeled. Not only can we not do that accurately as it relates to climate, there are probably a few variables yet to be discovered. We don’t know what we don’t know. The political scientists involved on government funded climate science only get their funding if they commit to present a predetermined outcome dictated by their funders. It is a fraud of historic proportions.

          • no

            It is worse than that and it fundamental. The mathematics for any deterministic nonlinear system, sensitive to initial conditions cannot be solved, providing a unique solution. Even if all the variables, as you described, are well known accurately, there still is no unique solution for these equations. That is the fraud that is incomprehensible.

            Your answer on the politics of it all is the only rational explanation.

          • Jim Greaves

            In addition, recall from the 1960s and 1970s that the oceans were to be 3 to 6 feet above what they were then, or about 3-6 feet above what they still are. And, in the 1970s, the dire seers of diversity were telling us to expect massive glaciers all over the eastern seaboard of North America by the year 2000… I’m keeping my snow shoes AND my surfboard handy…

          • http://www.therightperspective.org/Audio/nimshows/ BigBoa

            And, in the 70s, Popular Science was running with covers like “The Coming Ice Age”.

            Until 1988. One warm, dry, beautiful summer. 80s in March. Most of the summer it was in the 90s and 100s. Wonderful. And unfortunately, out they came.

            “The Earth….has….. a fever”. And they’ve been on the loose ever since. Most impressive were the test cars, collecting data while sitting in the middle of traffic jams……..

          • mack2

            What I really liked, was Al Gore insisting that the oceans would rise at least a foot and obliterate miles of coastal areas – then buys a multi-million dollar house on the beach in California, where if the oceans were to rise 6 inches, would put his living room underwater. Even the movements’ star preacher doesn’t believe in the snake-oil he is trying to sell.

          • rick

            Yes, that’s the same info I have, adding one note, those figures are allotted a “5%” margin of error…….I would say at this point “climate scientists,” (and their cushy gub’ment paychecks), fall into the category of “non-essential personnel.”

          • TastesLikeEmu

            Exactly. And, they had to massage the data as that was the only way to show a temperature increase over the last 15 years.

            If you don’t like the data or the results the data gives you, then you must massage the data until it supports your Social Engineering Agenda.

          • Kala

            massage=falsify

          • sonnyboy

            From the NWO globalists;
            “In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill.”
            – “The First Global Revolution”, A Report by the Council of the Club of Rome by Alexander King and Bertrand Schneider 1991

          • Bullet Tooth Tony

            Even the most conservative model is still 30% higher than actual recorded data.

          • robnbc

            Actually we have had record breaking global temperature averages for the last 20 years exactly as predicted by several different models. You need to update your talking points.

          • Stefan Williamson

            My “talking points?” I quoted Hans Von Storch of the IPCC. Was Hans lying when he said we have experienced 17 years of “value zero” temperature increase? In your mind, is the IPCC untrustworthy? I suppose that if you, a global warming alarmist, won’t even accept the IPCC’s word there is no hope that you will ever be convinced that your religion is based on incoherent logic.

          • robnbc

            “Based on the scientific evidence, I am convinced that we are facing anthropogenic climate change brought about by the emission of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.”[2] — ( Hans Von Storch ) ———– Nice try :)

          • Jim Greaves

            I applaud your piece, but can you CITE a source so we can investigate it? Thanks.

          • rick

            I thought I did that in my last sentence……but more specifically….

            “The article appeared on page 2 of the Washington Post on November 2, 1922, under the headline, “Arctic Ocean Getting Warm; Seals Vanish and Icebergs Melt.”

            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/24fc5c17b2ec5c609d8820c1275fef028031867c10917b3408b928d93062e7a7.png

          • Crozetian

            I tried to check it out, and Snopes has provided an image of the Washington Post article from page 2, on said date.

          • Frederick Colbourne

            I found a paper with a longer perspective, 10,000 years that says much the same.

            Kulusuk Lake is located on Kulusuk Island off the east coast of Greenland about the same latitude as northern Iceland. The lake was the subject of a recent paper with a graph of glacier advance and retreat. I used this graph to explore how the warming and cooling might correspond with warming and cooling in Europe and finally what the impact might have been on the Greenland colony.

            https://geoscienceenvironment.wordpress.com/2015/12/05/glacier-response-to-north-atlantic-climate-variability-during-the-holocene/

          • Jerry

            Brilliant THANKS

          • http://www.therightperspective.org/Audio/nimshows/ BigBoa

            You do realize this stuff doesn’t work with these fanatics, right? They’ll just read it and say “Wow! This has been going on even longer than we thought! The matter is urgent!”

          • jackedup

            Good post. I believe Obama’s current “science czar” said back in the 70’s global cooling was going to kill all sea life by the year 2000. And every one of these pigs thinks there’s too many disgusting humans on the planet….could that be the ultimate goal?

          • parabellum

            And according to Algore’s declaration of about ten years ago, we have about 60 days of survival remaining.

          • Cajun Exile

            Obama sez…

          • John Todd Ulrich

            OHHH bold font. Why no all caps?

          • Falcon195

            OHHH ad hominem.

          • Prorkba

            We can talk global warming. But, first, we’ll talk about the radical, militant disease called Fabian Socialism and why its adherents want to destroy America through hoaxes like global warming! Until then, America will fight all of the Fabian Socialists’ schemes that seek to redistribute wealth and eat away at the freedoms Americans have fought and died for!

          • Yaspar

            Edward Gibbon, in DAFORE, Vol. 2, noted that in Roman Republic days the climate must have been colder, as ice allowed the barbarians to cross the rivers that guard the north of Italy, which was no longer the case when he wrote that, in about 1780.

          • Paul H

            Hay the German people followed Hitler blindly also and see what that got them.

          • John “Kahless” Taylor

            Oh wow, that sounded just like some Liberal mag from today.

          • MATT SCHROEDER

            I almost skipped this and figured you were just another bat crap crazy libtard. I’m glad I read all of it. Friggin hilarious. Great post my conservative bretheren.

          • largejack

            They’re probably fleeing north to escape the nuclear radiation in the oceans.

            Wups, forgot to read the last sentence. Sorry mate.

          • Atilla Thehun

            Dogs and cats! Living together! – Bill Murray, Ghostbusters

          • tanstaafl54

            Great! Thanks for posting this! Gonna steal it, for sure! lol

          • 2inthehat

            I remember all the ‘gas guzzling SUVs’ back then.

        • JeromefromLayton

          Seabed mud cores and ice cores show an interesting rise in CO2 at the end of warm periods and beginning of cool periods or ice ages. Rotting vegetation after a major die-off could explain that transitional spike.

        • http://www.therightperspective.org/Audio/nimshows/ BigBoa

          Off to prison for you, eh?

        • JB1794

          Hilarious that the people caught lying in Climategate one and two with all the false data e-mails are now advocating silencing those who actually stick to hard data telling the truth.
          When you get paid by politicians and falsify data to keep your job, it makes sense for the lapdogs to go to their keepers for help. This is Orwellian, hypocrisy at it’s very definition. I find liberals who get ripped apart by facts and rational only can turn to silencing their critics as their last hope. Their false claims can so easily be picked apart, they know they have no other option. Works for every despot in history, at least in the short run.

        • Hank Wilson

          lol. Like anyone will understand your comment. Calcite I’m sure doesn’t tell the whole story.

        • https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC6Jj1LR2gsSFmPe5B03Rt7A Scottymac

          I thought it was proven by the fact we breath it out every second of everyday.

        • Atilla Thehun

          Yes. It’s a lagging indicator. An effect, not a cause

      • Who U Gettin Crazy Wit Ese

        Stalin, Lenin, and Trotsky were all devout Marxists who were all banished from Russia or sent to Siberia at one point or another for constantly attempting to over throw the government through violent tactics. Why they were allowed to live is beyond me. Whatever the case, those same Marxist tax are currently beyond used by the radical left to silence any and all opposition.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Similarly the denialists should be exiled.

          Why they are allowed to live is beyond me.

          • Who U Gettin Crazy Wit Ese

            No surprise. You Marxist are violent savages.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            100 Americans die every day from gunshot wounds.

            And the savage is calling me a savage.

            Ahahahahahah.. Scumbag, hypocrites.

          • obot

            Too bad you globull warming zealots aren’t the 100 killed each day. You are all inbred cretins.

          • Clausewitz

            David Suzuki, is that you?

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Looks real to me and my training is in high energy physics.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        Do you actually believe that we know what temperatures were thousands of years ago? How do we verify/audit those measurements? Can’t be done. Those are, at best, wild ass guesses.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Yes of course we know this.

          Why don’t you?

          • Bill Powell

            I think he just told you he did. You can’t read either?

          • John Scott

            The problem with scientists today: “Of course we know this…because we said it”.

            There was no measurement at the time, nobody was there, nobody can certify it. There may still be factors not considered when estimating (guessing) the temperature back then. GreenHeretic is simply pointing out that an estimate or theory is not fact. Until we know everything, we do not know everything. Science’s credibility is damaged every time a “scientist” presents an estimate or theory as known fact.

            APGW has been the most damaging theory to Science due to its adherents’ insistence not only that they know everything there is to know on the subject, but their insistence on shutting down scientific discussion of competing theory. Shutting down opposing viewpoints is very poor science.

      • thought criminal # 12654070

        my training is in high energy physics..

        ya, right.. lol…

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Your highest level of training achieved is potty.

      • Who U Gettin Crazy Wit Ese

        Please, based on the intelligence you have displayed in your previous posts I doubt you have the intellect to understand basic algebra let alone advanced physics.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          That is odd, because I was just teaching basic algebra a few minutes ago.

          • Who U Gettin Crazy Wit Ese

            That some active imagination you have there.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Deny, deny, deny…

            That is what Denialist kooks, do.

          • Who U Gettin Crazy Wit Ese

            Thanks for proving my point.

          • Christopher

            That would not seem to require training in advanced physics, but I guess those relegated to teaching remedial courses on weekends probably have some issues.

          • John Scott

            So, what would the physicist make out of the following overlay of CO2 levels in red, and temperatures in green? Kind of eye popping to notice the temperature changes PRECEDE the CO2 changes on this plot. Temperature goes up…CO2 goes up rather proportionately. That would seem counter to any argument that the CO2 man-made or otherwise is causing a change in the climate. In fact it points to the opposite. Granted this is only one plot, but it definitely shows that there is room and cause for OPEN debate that those who believe in APGW seem to want to shut down and demonize.

      • RLABruce

        Really? Then, in line with your training, you can easily tell us all what the following formula does and rewrite the formula to find r 2

        F = G m 1 m 2 / r 2

        Either explain your rewrite of the equation or admit you’re a liar.

        Actually, you already proved you’re a liar on a thread about “Climate Change”; you insisted the Chinese believed in it, too–until I linked to a published work from China that says the IPCC is lying and that there is no Climate Change. Never heard from you again until now–and surprise! Another lie!

        You need to change your user name to Walter Mitty.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          That is newtons universal law of gravitation and should be written

          F = (G * m1 * m2) / r**2 for clarity

          r**2 = (G * m1 * m2 ) / F

          I would give you the vector equation if ASCII had the ability to display vector notation.

          “I linked to a published work from China that says the IPCC is lying and that there is no Climate Change” – RLABruce

          China climate change plan unveiled

          The office of Premier Li Keqiang said that emissions “will peak by around 2030” and China would work hard to achieve the target even earlier.

          The statement echoes China’s declaration last November following a US-China summit.

          China’s pledge comes ahead of talks late this year in Paris to seek a new global deal on climate change.

          The statement, released following a meeting in Paris between Li and French President Francois Hollande, said China aimed to reduce its carbon dioxide emissions per unit of GDP by 60-65% by 2030, from 2005 levels.

          The carbon intensity target builds on a previous plan to cut carbon intensity by 40-45% by 2020.

          China also aimed to increase the share of non-fossil fuels in its primary energy consumption to about 20% by 2030, the statement added.

          http://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-33317451

          • https://web.archive.org/web/20140320095106/http://home.comcast.net/~htos1/ 2jeffwilliams

            I would give you the vector equation if ASCII had the ability to display vector notation.
            Use MathType.

          • RLABruce

            1. It took you all day to find, copy and paste Newton’s law of gravitation? LOL! You aren’t too competent on a computer, are you? Just what DO you do that someone pays you to do?

            2. You confuse China’s political rhetoric with their science; have you read the English translation of the Chinese Academy of Sciences publication, “Climate Change Reconsidered”?
            It calls the IPCC findings a lie and contradicts Premier Li’s political statements. All Li’s talk means is that the Chinese see an advantage for themselves in creating a global carbon tax; probably they have arranged to receive the tax revenue while the US provides the revenue.

            Certainly if you “have training in high energy physics”, you would be interested in their scientific findings rather than their politicians’ speeches. I still call you a liar; it’s hard to think of anything you couldn’t look up online. Can you give details in what you do for a living, or at least name the degrees, honors, scholarship studies and research you have conducted, or even participated in? Most of the so-called “climatologists” have bachelor degrees in unrelated fields with no training or background in what they claim to have expertise in. Show us how learned you are; give us your CV, VD!

    • Reason And Believing

      Jihadism is left wing.

    • https://web.archive.org/web/20140320095106/http://home.comcast.net/~htos1/ 2jeffwilliams

      …and they(leftists, haters, anti-Americans)DID kill >80 million in the 20th century, NOT including the wars.

    • another_conservative_in_exile

      not a bad analogy. environmentalism is a quasi religion that tolerates almost no dissent.

    • kenny karsone

      Hemingway. One Thousand thumbs up

    • http://luxomni.blogspot.com/ Luxomni

      Well, it is a religion. It is a belief system. A belief in something that cannot be observed or proved. In fact, observations that go against its premise are proof of its existence. It requires absolute fealty, and demands condemnation and persecution of non-believers. And it always needs money and sacrifice.

    • Namretupad

      All these AGW alarmists remind me of 2 fleas sitting on an elephant’s a** arguing over which one is steering where the elephant goes.

      • cmdprompt

        What a fitting analogy.

    • ¡El Poder De Cristo Te Obliga!

      Well “climate deniers”, like myself, demand that the U.S. totally secede from the UN and bulldoze the building itself in NYC right straight into the East River!
      Whadaya no good, stinkin’ mullahs that run that joint think of that?

    • Ron

      If you believe mankind has something to do with and has the power to control the climate then you are a ‘cool-aid’ drinker.

    • Cahal the Mad™

      And the climate cultists are the most dangerous of all the jihadists/leftists.

    • H.D. Rennerfeldt

      MY, MY, MY, – AREN’T THE COMMIE FASCISTS BUSY ! ! ! !
      *
      Computer modelling software has to be written to prove the
      FAKE SCIENCE because computers DO NOT automatically
      produce “Correct” results. Written to show TEMPS rising
      after CO2 increases – Which we used to be taught in high
      school science as BEING A FABRICATION OF THE LAW
      OF PHYSICS.
      .

    • Bill Hapla

      that’s Mr. Infidel,,,,,,

  • burningtree

    When science becomes politicized, it is no longer science. When it is blasphemy to express dissent with scientific opinion, that is religion. It is tyranny. Pretty soon we’ll have a call for an Inquisition for the “deniers,” imprison them, and burn them at the stake. What has our world come to, when political correctness trumps free thought? We know. It’s called tyranny.

    • Robert C

      Galileo Galilei expressed view opposite of the “consensus” of his time…
      He put his life on the line, but he refused to back down and help the world come out of the dark ages of pseudo-science…
      Sadly we need another Galileo Galilei… any volunteers?

      • RLABruce

        Actually, Galilei DID recant–but it was not sincere, the genie got out of the jar, and other real scientists saw that he was correct no matter what the Church made him say.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      I see. So in your view when Galileo was placed under house arrest for his observations of a sun centered solar system, his theory stopped being science and became politics?

      My goodness that is stupid.

      Sometimes I think that Republicans just open their mouths to say the most stupid thing possible in any situation.

      • mr. White folks

        Are you high? Many of your comments aren’t absurd, and have nothing to do with what you actually responding to.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Can you provide any examples? I’m used to talking to reasonably intelligent people who can follow a conversation.

          You seem to need remedial assistance.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        Galileo’s theory of heliocentrism was (wrongly) contradicted by the leading scientists of his day.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          My goodness you are ignorant. The heliocentric theory was advanced by
          Nicolaus Copernicus in the early 1500’s.

          Galileo didn’t invent the theory, but he was tried for defending it in 1633, 100 years after Copernicus.

          Galileo wasn’t punished by his contemporaries who had accepted the theory but by Christians who denied the scientific reality.

          Today we have Christian Republicans engaged in the same anti-science practices.

      • John Scott

        Seems to me that BurningTree was unhappy about the Galileo incident and simply pointing out that people of yesteryear politicized that situation much like the GW debate has become politicized by both sides today. The only way you can grab the high moral ground is to call for honest debate and tell the people calling for a new Inquisition to stop being that which they profess to hate. Debate is part of Science.

    • Sam

      Put any people that even speak about GW in jail; especially jail politicians promoting taxes to prevent us from heating our homes and farmers from growing our food,

    • https://web.archive.org/web/20140320095106/http://home.comcast.net/~htos1/ 2jeffwilliams

      That’s why *THIS* time, is the last one.

  • Ms. Necessary Evil

    The UN should be closed and the land used for a flea market.

    Shalom

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Do you have fleas to sell Ms. Evil? Looks like it.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        Do you even know what a ‘flea market’ is???

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Its someplace that fea baggers like Mrs. Evil go to sell their body lice.

          • Ms. Necessary Evil

            It is a place for mongrels like M00-chelle Obama,Hitlery Clinton and their breed to sell what their families steal from the working people.

            Shalom

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Pay your taxes Ms. Evil.

          • nikondvr

            Why? So you leftists can steal them? Needing another grant?

      • Ms. Necessary Evil

        Al Gore’s ex-wife, Hitlerly Clinton and M00-chelle Obama could sell fleas by the pounds and have lots left over.

        Shalom

        • VendicarDecarian0

          There is a reason why you people are known as flea bagger tea baggers.

          • Ms. Necessary Evil

            Like most of your kind you assume someone is conservative or liberal.

            I prefer to be an Indp. voter and not have my head up a donkey’s or elephant’s backside.

            You will be able to think better and see much better when you remove your head…

            Shalom

          • mack2

            Ignore the troll – He’s a Palestinian living in Canada. Worked as a janitor at a High School in Ontario. Was arrested and (possibly) jailed for making threats against President Bush, as his trolling “went dark” for a period of time. He also posts as Scott Nudds, and Scott Douglas.

          • Ms. Necessary Evil

            I just like leading mongrel breeds like this cry baby around by their nose rings and rub their noses in their own crapola.

            People like this mongrel are totally worthless to mankind.

            Shalolm

    • DevilDocNowCiv

      Ms.,

      Agreed; we saw the same soiled idealism turned into power play corrupt dealing, as we now see with votes equating Zionism with racism, ignoring the plight of Nepal, the overall world Jihad. Why go on? Enough there to say: Lets start over with NATO, the south Asian quasi equivalent (ASEAN?) and the many others who’d want to be on good terms with us.

      It would be a new, more honest day. And hey, if we can elect Trump, it could actually happen. If it comes up, he very well might say “I’m open to it,” and actually be open to it. Imagine what he could arrange to do with that property, and how he could turn to another well or unknown realty person who would manage the turnover.

      • Ms. Necessary Evil

        As for myself I’m non-religious. Way to many religions of today all promote hate and none are worth wasting my time on.

        We need someone other than the established politicians. They have had 200+ years to screw things up.

        Shalom – Simply means peace….

  • Joe_E_in_the_IE

    A little background music, please. Cue “Deutschland, Deutschland über alles”.

    • Robert C

      The Spanish Inquisition (not the Monty Python type) is being resurrected by greedy people pretending to be scientists & environmentalists…

      • VendicarDecarian0

        Do you have any suspicious freckles that can be exploited?

    • dw2558

      True

  • jakartaman

    The UN needs to be revoked and turned into Condo’s
    They are the largest contributors with all their hot air!
    We are on the cusp of a Mini ice age!! Buy a big truck and increase your carbon footprint NOW!

    • Flavius

      Crime in Manhattan would go down.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and the U.S. out of existence.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        Feel the HATE!!!

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Feel the Bern.

      • http://www.changeitfloors.com/ Chris Yeager

        Global terrorism includes what you posted. I hope you are investigated.

  • whooosh

    I can just picture someone having their credentials revoked and unable to earn money to support a family.
    Does it sound logical to target these people and set one or two of them off and lead them into violence?
    I know what I might do, if I couldn’t’;t earn a living and feed my family. I’d find out where some of these activists live and pay them a visit. Ring their doorbell and when the door opens, put a 9mm round right between their eyes.
    Why do something that could lead others to commit crimes and acts of violence?
    Stupid friggin liberals always looking for an unethical way to get what they want. I hope if Trump gets elected, he gives the UN 6 months to leave NYC and revokes our membership.

    • C. D. Carney

      I just want to know what power the UN has to revoke someone’s credentials. Does the UN accredit anything other than theft of money donated in good faith by the taxpayers of real nations?

      • VendicarDecarian0

        Since there are no credentials there is no power for the U.N. to revoke them.

        It’s all just kook filled Denialist nonsense.

        You have been lied to by the Denialist camp.

        • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

          You are making HIS point, chump. LOL.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            I am supporting him, Kook Boy.

    • Rob

      The “credentials” they speak of is to attend the UN’s meeting. It has nothing to do with professional credentials. It is only to bar the “deniers” from expressing their views, opinions, and facts.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      “credentials revoked and unable to earn money” – Kook Whoosh

      I’m a scientist man… Here is my Science membership card.

      Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahah……. Ignorant Kooks.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        You are the ignoranus.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          You were given a get out of science free card.

          As for myself, my training is in high energy physics.

          • mack2

            Then why were you working as a Janitor in a High School in Ontario?

    • Loyd

      I always add another word when I mention Democrat / liberal / socialist / progressives, ” communism. “

      • VendicarDecarian0

        No one cares what neanderthals think.

        • Loyd

          and for sure Democrat / liberal / progressive despicable scum.

  • the press critic 4u

    The President has no clothes .

    • VendicarDecarian0

      I saw him wearing a suit earlier today.

      The Heartland Foundation has no shame, and that is why they can excrete in public.
      You ignore it.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        You’re nothing but a HATER.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          You are nothing but an ignorant whiner.

          • mack2

            Are you still a janitor at that High School in Ontario? Or did they fire you when you got arrested for making threats against the President?

        • Story

          And the truth of the TROLL exposes itself. No reason to reply to Vinditrolltheasshat.

  • Flavius

    And suddenly “consensus” is part of the scientific method…

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Scientists don’t operate on consensus, but an ignorant public, and scientific illiterates like you should, since you don’t have the ability to distinguish science from nonsense.

      • Darth Awesome

        What are your credentials, Mr. “Scientific Literate”?

        • VendicarDecarian0

          I haven’t offered you any.

          • Darth Awesome

            I thought you were Bill Nye the science guy. Apparently, you are just some fool who swallows commie propaganda.

          • mack2

            VendicarDecarian0 is a Palestinian living in Canada. Worked as a janitor at a High School in Ontario. Was arrested and (possibly) jailed for making threats against President Bush, as his trolling “went dark” for a period of time. He also posts as Scott Nudds, and Scott Douglas.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        Don’t be an idiot. MANY climate scientists are deniers and base their conclusions on science.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          “Many” in this context seems to be 3.

          Ahahahahahahahahah…..

      • Flavius

        Instead of one, long, rambling sentence, just scream “HERETIC!”…
        Enjoy your “settled” science.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          You mean, enjoy your public humiliation.

          Ya, I’m doing that.

          • http://www.changeitfloors.com/ Chris Yeager

            Wood for trees dot org?

  • Texmom

    If you can’t make the argument, silence the opposition. Western so-called democracies are advocating censorship. What happened to freedom of speech.

    • dw2558

      They only believe in freedom of speech if you agree with them. Otherwise, they resort to name calling and totalitarian tactics to silence those with whom they disagree.

      • VendicarDecarian0

        Isn’t name calling free speech, Scumbag?

        • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

          When YOU called for execution of deniers, you passed the limits of free speech.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Those executions are coming, and there is nothing you can to to prevent it.

            And when the deniars are hanging from the trees, I will laugh, and laugh and laugh.

          • NonHyphenated

            Thank you for illustrating the importance of the 2nd amendment.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Since ignoring the warming of the globe will result in a holocaust, there is no real distinction to be made between holocaust denial and warming denial.

      “What happened to freedom of speech.” -Texmom

      Can you yell “no fire” in a burning school house?

      • Darth Awesome

        Nice try, Al Gore!

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Gore. Remarkably man. I admire him.

          • Darth Awesome

            His invention of the internet really transformed civilization.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        There is no burning schoolhouse. None.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          And yet the flames are self evident.

          You are a criminal holocaust denier.

          The punishment for the crime of treason against nature and man will be execution.

          Lists are already being drawn up.

      • zcos

        First of all, the premise that warming of the globe will result in holocaust is absurd. There is no evidence for that. There is evidence that the planet was much warmer in the past and there was no holocaust. Geez. A warmer globe would mean longer growing seasons and more land areas that can be cultivated, less need for heating with fossil fuels, less people freezing and starving, and more forests growing faster and richer. CO2 is not poison to the planet. Trees use it like we use oxygen. It doesnt cause warming. There have been periods with much much more CO2 than we have or are likely to have in a thousand years when the climate was much cooler. The temperature variances occur naturally and cyclically. Relax. The planet has been through all of this before.

        • Story

          Biologists NOT in the AGW camp have stated CO2 levels should be much higher as plant life is currently operating at a deficit. Plants are literally STARVING for additional CO2. Of course Vindthedumbass will never research nor acknowledge this.

    • Darth Awesome

      Commies hate freedom of speech.

      • VendicarDecarian0

        Scumbag Conservatives hate free speech.

  • government watchdog

    When Trump is POTUS the believers will visit the UN in North Korea.

    • Golf Pro

      When Hillary is President, things will get right.

      • http://batman-news.com cdw

        When Hillary is in Prison, things will get right.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          When you are in prison, we will be laughing.

          • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

            Pssttt…. Your HATE is showing!

      • Noneya Biness

        So you are saying things won’t get right until hell freezes over?

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Trump supporters are going to be very upset when they realize that Trump is unelectable.

      My guess is that the majority of them won’t realize that until after Hillary is elected.

  • jetalong

    Welcome to the Fascist Liberal Youth training camps otherwise know as a University.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Knowledge does tend to make people Liberals.

      Ignorance does tend to make people Republicans.

      • thought criminal # 12654070

        you know where you can put that hockey stick…

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Which hockey stick? There are dozens of them now?

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        Aren’t you aware that Republicans and conservatives are much better educated than Democrats and liberals???

        • VendicarDecarian0

          The inferior always overestimate their abilities.

      • jetalong

        Well said Mr. Goebbels. The generation that has graduated in the last 10 is the most frightening NAZI youth I have ever seen. I served as a trustee of my University for 3 years and fear for my country like never before. I suppose you are on board with limiting free speech as well as the current group of graduates so Jonny’s feeling don’t get hurt. FYI I am not a Republican as the they are as Fd up as you and your liberal friends.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Liberty University president encourages students to carry guns on campus

          Liberty University president Jerry Falwell Jr. urged students Friday to carry concealed weapons on campus to counter any possible armed attack, saying that “we could end those Muslims before they walk in.”

          Mighty Christian of the Conservative Fascist, don’t you agree?

  • jxt

    No more money to the UN which is nothing more than a criminal enterprise.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Get the U.N. out of the U.S. and the U.S. out of existence.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        How do you live with such HATE in your heart?

        • VendicarDecarian0

          How do Americans live knowing that their country has murdered 50 million people since it’s independence?

        • mack2

          Easy – he’s a Palestinian, currently living in Canada. Last known job – High School Janitor.

  • OSR1

    Its all about power and control. Freedom is in a death spiral.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      If you were the only person on earth then you would be free to burn all the carbon based fuels you like.

      But with the current population of over 7 billion, your fuel consumption impacts on the rights of others to clean air and a sustainable environment.

      So your rights will be limited so that they do not conflict with the rights of others.

      Don’t like it? Awwww. Go live on some other planet… Scumbag.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        YOU are the scumbag. Do you make your living as a Big Green hustler?

        • VendicarDecarian0

          I love water melon.

          • VegasRick

            Green on the outside and red on the inside? Your communism is showing again.

      • Story

        So all your high priests fly to Paris spewing tons of CO2 to dictate to the rest of humanity NOT to spew tons of CO2… and you live on your knees before them only pausing to wipe your chin. We rational humans clearly see you and them for what you all are. You should remember there are over 100,000,000 armed Americans with over 300,000,00 arms waiting for you to start some shite. We’re waiting.

  • http://batman-news.com cdw

    Here are a few differences between a real scientist and a climate “scientist.”
    Real scientists are happy to release their data, because it is important in science to have repeatable results.
    Climate scientists delay, delete and deny data.
    “Why should I make data available to you? -Phil Jones C.R.U.
    “Mike can you delete any emails you have with Keith re AR4? Keith will do likewise…” -Phil Jones C.R.U.

    Real scientists relish debate, they thrive on it. It achieves a higher understanding of the science, the blind-spots in the hypothesis and next steps.
    Climate scientists refuse to debate. It is a weak position to avoid defending your claims.

    Real scientists are respectful of other opinions and other scientists.
    Climate scientists yell DENIER.

    Real scientists use testable hypotheses.
    Climate scientists cling to a non-falsifiable hypothesis. Everything proves it and nothing can disprove it.
    More snow, less snow, more rain, less rain, more heat, less heat more wind, less wind, more cold, less cold it all confirms “change.”

    Real scientists don’t need headcounts and arguments to authority. Their data, their work and their arguments stand on their own.
    Climate scientists claim “consensus” which, in science, is beyond meaningless.

    Real scientists adjust models that don’t work.
    Climate scientists adjust observations to make the models work. “Look, see, no pause anymore….”

  • Pepperspray137

    The premiere sounds like a dangerous place to be, leftists cannot tolerate descent. Shed light on their lies at your own risk.

  • Aftersun

    There is a video on YouTube you can search for. It’s called The Great Global Warming Swindle. It was originally broadcasted in the U.K. several years ago. I got a chance to see part of it and it’s really good.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Ya, that video is a laugh. The producer was caught red handed altering claims made in the video through creative editing, and was also caught fabricating the temperature graphs uses in the “ahem” documentary.

      Dishonest producer and dishonest video.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        Bull. You are lying.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          ‘Swindle’ was a deliberately provocative polemic and Durkin was entirely at ease with editing interviews – on at least one occasion – so that the participants appeared to be saying exactly the opposite of what they had in fact proposed. He claims that global warming is a hoax foisted upon an unsuspecting public by conspiratorial environmentalists.

          Sir David King, then chief scientific advisor to the UK Government, complained to Channel 4 about how his own contribution had been manipulated. After the show aired there were more than 260 further complaints from viewers.Professor Chris Rapley, then head of the British Antarctic Survey, dismissed the programme as “a tissue of lies”.

          Bob Ward from the Royal Society, who had previously taken on ExxonMobil, drafted a 180 page report for the broadcast regulator, accusing the programme of “displaying erroneous or artificially manipulated graphs, and presenting incorrect, misleading, or incomplete opinions and facts on the science of global warming and the related economics.”

          Ward told DeSmog UK: “I thought it was outrageous. I thought: how is it possible that this has been allowed to be broadcast, because it’s so blatantly full of demonstrably false information? What I decided to do was to organise a joint letter by a group of climate scientists to complain about it.”

      • Aftersun

        I’ll have to look it up. Couldn’t be near as fabricated as Al Gore’s documentary. Anyways, could you give me the name (or names) of those who made this claim so I can check the credibility of the accusers?

  • http://batman-news.com cdw

    The real, unstoppable, climate change (beginning 500 million years from now):

    When the Sun becomes a red giant, it will happen very quickly, sweeping through the inner Solar System in just 5 million years. It will then enter a relatively brief (130 million year) helium-burning phase. It will expand past the orbit of Mercury, and then Venus. By the time it approaches the Earth, it will be losing 10^20 tonnes of mass every year (8% the mass of the Earth).

    But the habitable zone will be gone much sooner. Astronomers estimate it will expand past the Earth’s orbit in just a billion years from now. The heating Sun will evaporate the Earth’s oceans away, and then solar radiation will blast away the hydrogen from the water. The Earth will never have oceans again. It will eventually become molten again.

    Will the Earth survive? According to Schroder and Smith, the answer is no. Even though the Earth could expand to an orbit 50% larger than today’s orbit, it won’t get the chance. The expanding Sun will engulf the Earth just before it reaches the tip of the red giant phase. And the Sun would still have another 0.25 AU and 500,000 years to grow.

    Once inside the Sun’s atmosphere, the Earth will collide with particles of gas. Its orbit will decay, and it will spiral inward.

    • John Edward Azhderian

      And it’s all George Bush’s fault comrades.

  • Savior of the Golden Goddesses

    They need to call the freaks “Climate Cult Members”

    • VendicarDecarian0

      The world is passing you by. Kick and scream old man. Your will soon expire.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        In not so many years, you are going to wonder why you are such a failure in life. We are going to laugh at you.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Ya. I was told that 30 years ago, and the planet just keeps warming and warming and warming.

          Looks like they were liars.

          And you are too.

  • Darth Awesome

    The global warming hoax Nazis are tripping all over themselves trying to keep the scam alive. The globalist weirdos attempting to assert their is some correlation between “global warming” & terrorism/invasion of western civilization is absurd to say the least.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Looks real enough to me.

      • Darth Awesome

        Good thing VendicarDecarian0 is the authority on…..nothing. Whew, that was a close one!

        • VendicarDecarian0

          The study was done by Purdue university. You should take up your kookie objections with them.

          • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

            You haven’t cited any such source.

          • Darth Awesome

            NOAA & numerous universities have already been busted cooking data to support the global warming hoax. They no longer have credibility on the matter, & neither do you.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Really? Can you provide any proof from the courts or from scientific peer reviewed journals to support your Whacky lie?

          • Darth Awesome

            I see, the jive turkey who has no proof of anything he spews is demanding proof from others. Sorry clown, you’re going to have to do your own research. There’s this fantastic invention called GOOGLE……

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        I can make fake data too.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          To a denialist, everything is fake, except their fantasies.

          • Darth Awesome

            Credentials please.

  • steve phillips

    So the leftists want to deny the deniers ?

  • Noneya Biness

    The only way climate alarmists can get the “consensus” they claim is to eliminate all scientists who don’t agree. Real science doesn’t operate this way, only religious cults do.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Ya, we have a secret grotto where we hang the ones who don’t agree.

      I’m looking forward to Lindzen getting his due.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        Why are you so full of HATE???

        • VendicarDecarian0

          I don’t like congenital liars. Hence I loathe Republicans.

        • Story

          Just another POS troll dude. just ignore.

          • mack2

            Got that right. Total troll. He’s a Palestinian, living in Canada. Worked as a janitor in a High School in Ontario. Was arrested for making online threats against the President.

  • usatravler

    The UN is after the US dollar, nothing more…..China is a major polluter, go after their money.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Per Person, the U.S. emits far more than China.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        Not anymore, chump. Get some REAL data.

      • usatravler

        Yeah, right….do you still believe in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus?

      • Noneya Biness

        So China can emit twice as much pollution as the US as long as they have more than twice as many people? Is this why Democrats are trying to get as many illegals into the country as possible, so that we too can have a zillion people and thus lower our per-person carbon footprint?

  • Swampdog

    More leftist environmental facism. No free speech if you disagree with them. Next Prez should get us the hell out of the UN and send the UN itself packing off to some Thild World hellhole, since that’s who they support all the time. Maybe Tripoli would be a good place for them.

    • Denny Crane

      Benghazi would be fitting. Maybe Gaza.

  • Darth Awesome

    The Muslim & Gaia death cult weirdos have joined forces to take down western civilization on behalf of the globalist overlords.

    • joeysdad

      The AGW cult thinks it is justified in persecuting deniers with the complicit agreement of our president. And we have a justice department that thinks it is justified in imposing Sharia law; prosecuting those who speak against Mohamed and thus angering Muslims.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      That is a funny thing to say given that a large number of denialists argue that the earth can take care of itself, which is exactly what the Gaia principle states.

      You did know that… Didn’t you?

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        WHO has ever argued that? In your desperation, you are now just making up nonsense.

      • Darth Awesome

        Did I say anything about the “Gaia principle”? No, I did not. Your comprehension skills suck.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          You may not think you did, but you did.

          Your ignorance amuses me.

          • Darth Awesome

            No, you made s straw man argument & made yourself sound stupid. Now you’re doing it again.

  • Denny Crane

    This just removes any doubt that the global warming cabal is nothing but a cult that will deny all facts and instead, embrace faith in their falsified beliefs.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Looks real enough to me.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        I can make fake data do anything, too.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          And Denialists regularly do.

      • zcos

        That graph is BS. I’ve been looking at this data exhaustively and I’ve never seen this bunk graph. What the hell is this from? I smell BS

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Would you prefer this one?

          • zcos

            Personally I’d prefer you get a clue and stop your lies. If you actually believe what you are saying you are really really easily manipulated and stupid and it must be scary for you to be living in such deluded confusion. Sad in a way. Otherwise you’re just a lying douchebag liberal.

  • Sam

    People that promote policies to lessen climate change should be jailed regardless of accuracy of climate change predictions. Accurate predictions or not, politicians should not enact policies to lessen the effect of climate change because the results of all such policies are pure speculation. In general, policies will be used to increase control and enslave through ever more taxes and laws. We would be better off taking our chances with climate change that being enslaved.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Don’t worry Sam. Your psychatric meds will show up soon.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        You need to take yours, chump.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Sorry dirt bag, but most of us don’t need them. But you clearly do.

      • Sam

        You should be jailed as well…without your meds, too.

        • mack2

          He likely was – VendicarDecarian0 is a Palestinian living in Canada. Worked as a janitor at a High School in Ontario. Was arrested and (possibly) jailed for making threats against President Bush, as his trolling “went dark” for a period of time. He also posts as Scott Nudds, and Scott Douglas.

  • Isaiahdolan

    Control the press and media and make “skeptics” fear to speak. That’s called good science.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Skeptics are welcome in Science. But not denialists.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        Why would you claim that any view is not welcome in science?

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Oh that is easy. Some claims are lies. Isn’t that right you little Child Molester.

      • Noneya Biness

        Those two terms are interchangeable, and your GW cult does not welcome either.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Skeptics are honest. Denialists are scumbag liars, like you Noneya.

  • Denny Crane

    To all you climate change deniers- Papers please, comrade. These papers are NOT in order.

    • joeysdad

      Soon, deniers will be forced underground. Then Google and Facebook will be enlisted to search for latent deniers to be sent to re-education camps.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Isn’t that the recommended way that Republicans are to approach Mexicans?

      Ahahahahahahahahahah…..

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        Not at all, chump.

      • Noneya Biness

        How exactly do you propose proving CITIZENSHIP without the use of official documentation? Your apples and oranges analogy fails.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Maybe you could implant a chip under the skin of their left hand and under the skin of their forehead.

  • boocat

    Burn the heretics!

  • joeysdad

    This is why there is so much agreement among researchers. Liberalism dictates that one does not counter someone who disagrees with you with better argumentation, you destroy that person so their position is no longer heard. A liberal gets into a position of power and they proceed to purge the system of alternative thought.

    • FTM

      Just cognitively disabled progressive liberals doing what cognitively disabled progressive liberals do. When has a cognitively disabled progressive liberal in the course of human history ever one time failed to start stringing up barbed wire and building guard towers?

  • jimmyv65

    these so called activists need to have the “deniers” credentials revoked because they are unable to refute the “deniers” arguments. So it is far easier to have your opponents banned, than to debate them and end up looking like a fool.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      It looks pretty refuted to me.

      • jimmyv65

        How so? Is it the manufactured data,or the increase in arctic ice, or the fact they got busted collecting temperature data near power p l ants, glass buildings etc. Or maybe it was the false emails they got busted on. Or n maybe the fact the earth temp hasn’t risen in nearly 18 years. Or maybe it’s the fact that every single global warming prediction in the last 40 years has never came true ……..

        • VendicarDecarian0

          So what you are telling me is that you are sooooo stupid, that you have fallen for every lie the denialist camp has thrown your way.

          Suckerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

          • jimmyv65

            So you can’t stand that someone has a different opinion than you , so you go to the personal insults….typical…shows a lack off intellect though…..I suppose I could also say that you have fallen for every lie, and there are 40 years of proven lies, the global warming nuts have tossed your way….ssssssssuuuuuuuccccccckkkkkkeeeeerrrrrr

  • squirefld

    The only true resource for the “climate fear mongers” are computer models. And the, scientists, use questionable information going in and the program, produces the desired outcome. As far as I know, the computer models don’t even use information as to what the Sun is doing.

    • Noneya Biness

      As if something as complex as the weather could be predicted by computer models. Computer programs are coded by PEOPLE, so not only are the predictions dependent on the data, it is also dependent on assumptions coded into the program, which are inherently incomplete and can not take into account all factors due to the completely random nature of weather and solar trends.

  • rawheadrex

    We RCCs can only pray that St. Francis of Assisi, from whom the Pope took his name, will give the Pontiff better counsel than he has received from his human advisers.

  • Marty

    Morano: “In our film Climate Hustle, we go back to the 1970s. We have Walter Cronkite, ABC News, and Leonard Nimoy — warning of a coming ice age.”
    a good one..o boy! what a criminal UN enterprise these climate change people are

    • VendicarDecarian0

      I know that Leonard Nimoy is where American Kooks go to get their science news.

      Ahahahahahahaha…..

  • Trickyricky

    Sound familiar? If you do not believe, we will KILL YOU! The UN is just like Nazi’s and Muslims. if you do not follow their beliefs they will kill.exterminate you.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      I sense that you will be getting a shave from the neo-national razor.

      Coming to your American cities, very soon now.

      Have your lists ready, and your obituaries written.

  • Dr Norman Page

    This exchange with Professor Freeman Dyson summarizes the current situation. A millennial cycle has just peaked ( about 2003) and the general trend will be down until about 2650.
    “E-mail 4/7/15
    Dr Norman Page
    Houston

    Professor Dyson
    Saw your Vancouver Sun interview.I agree that CO2 is beneficial. This will be even more so in future because it is more likely than not that the earth has already entered a long term cooling trend following the recent temperature peak in the quasi-millennial solar driven periodicity .

    The climate models on which the entire Catastrophic Global Warming delusion rests are built without regard to the natural 60 and more importantly 1000 year periodicities so obvious in the temperature record. The modelers approach is simply a scientific disaster and lacks even average commonsense .It is exactly like taking the temperature trend from say Feb – July and projecting it ahead linearly for 20 years or so. They back tune their models for less than 100 years when the relevant time scale is millennial. This is scientific malfeasance on a grand scale. The temperature projections of the IPCC – UK Met office models and all the impact studies which derive from them have no solid foundation in empirical science being derived from inherently useless and specifically structurally flawed models. They provide no basis for the discussion of future climate trends and represent an enormous waste of time and money. As a foundation for Governmental climate and energy policy their forecasts are already seen to be grossly in error and are therefore worse than useless. A new forecasting paradigm needs to be adopted. For forecasts of the timing and extent of the coming cooling based on the natural solar activity cycles – most importantly the millennial cycle – and using the neutron count and 10Be record as the most useful proxy for solar activity check my blog-post at http://climatesense-norpag.blogspot.com/2014/07/climate-forecasting-methods-and-cooling.html

    The most important factor in climate forecasting is where earth is in regard to the quasi- millennial natural solar activity cycle which has a period in the 960 – 1020 year range. For evidence of this cycle see Figs 5-9. From Fig 9 it is obvious that the earth is just approaching ,just at or just past a peak in the millennial cycle. I suggest that more likely than not the general trends from 1000- 2000 seen in Fig 9 will likely generally repeat from 2000-3000 with the depths of the next LIA at about 2650. The best proxy for solar activity is the neutron monitor count and 10 Be data. My view ,based on the Oulu neutron count – Fig 14 is that the solar activity millennial maximum peaked in Cycle 22 in about 1991. There is a varying lag between the change in the in solar activity and the change in the different temperature metrics. There is a 12 year delay between the activity peak and the probable millennial cyclic temperature peak seen in the RSS data in 2003. http://www.woodfortrees.org/plot/rss/from:1980.1/plot/rss/from:1980.1/to:2003.6/trend/plot/rss/from:2003.6/trend

    There has been a cooling temperature trend since then (Usually interpreted as a “pause”) There is likely to be a steepening of the cooling trend in 2017- 2018 corresponding to the very important Ap index break below all recent base values in 2005-6. Fig 13.

    The Polar excursions of the last few winters in North America are harbingers of even more extreme winters to come more frequently in the near future.

    I would be very happy to discuss this with you by E-mail or phone .It is important that you use your position and visibility to influence United States government policy and also change the perceptions of the MSM and U.S public in this matter. If my forecast cooling actually occurs the policy of CO2 emission reduction will add to the increasing stress on global food production caused by a cooling and generally more arid climate.

    Best Regards
    Norman Page

    E-Mail 4/9/15
    Dear Norman Page,
    Thank you for your message and for the blog. That all makes sense.
    I wish I knew how to get important people to listen to you. But there is
    not much that I can do. I have zero credibility as an expert on climate.
    I am just a theoretical physicist, 91 years old and obviously out of touch
    with the real world. I do what I can, writing reviews and giving talks,
    but important people are not listening to me. They will listen when the
    glaciers start growing in Kentucky, but I will not be around then. With
    all good wishes, yours ever, Freeman Dyson.

    Email 4/9/15

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    > Best Regards Norman Page

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    for asking. Yours, Freeman Dyson.

  • JohninRedding

    So much for the free exchange of ideas in pursuit of scientific truth. Action like this clearly shows the climate change advocates realize their agenda is being exposed as a hoax and can not win using scientific arguments. Time to go radical and silence the opposition.

  • Phukazz

    Shameful how they are evoking it as a matter of faith now. Well that sounds about right. It’s not happening unless one is deluded enough to believe it is. Lies lies lies!

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/E/EU_CLIMATE_COUNTDOWN_GOD_FACTOR

  • http://www.ojjpac.org/

    Have you noticed how the left attempts to degrade the opposition through mockery? “Deniers”, “Birthers, “Islamaphobes”, etc. In that way they place the opposition on the defensive so they don’t have to debate the actual issue.

    • zcos

      You can’t debate it even if you want to at the UN because if you disagree they revoke your credentials to attend the debate! This is what Global Totalitarianism looks like. If you agree you are safe, but if you disagree with their insane agenda then you are branded an enemy of the state.

      • Who U Gettin Crazy Wit Ese

        And that goes for more than just climate control. If you espouse a conservative viewpoint at any University in America, and I imagine in Europe as well, you will be shouted down by the radical leftists that populate college campus. Students and professors alike.

        • Noneya Biness

          And if you are a conservative trying to get a teaching job at any of these universities, you will be denied and discriminated against.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Good. Universities don’t want to hire congenital liars.

      • VendicarDecarian0

        I’m a scientist man. Here is my “I’m a scientist card.” as proof.

        Sorry sucker. You have been lied to, by your denialist handlers and you fell for it like the loser you are.

        Ahahahahahahahahahah…..

        • zcos

          check it out. You’re an idiot. Wake up.

        • zcos

  • <– Hillary minus her pantsuit

    These whack jobs on the left are religious fanatics. I see why they get along so well with the müzzies!!

  • thought criminal # 12654070

    this 5hit is as real as obamas bc…… why do libs hate trees?

  • Jim Foles

    instead of using billions to organize a CC money pit organization… why not use the money and upgrade all the power plants directly and clean the air? a gift from the governments around the world, given directly to the power plants toclean the air and keep all our lights on..

    • Jay_tea

      While that would be sensible use of money, it wouldn’t reduce CO2, which is why it’s so important to the UN that CO2 is considered a pollutant.

      • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

        We might as well designate Oxygen and water as pollutants.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      For the cost of Bush’s war crimes in Iraq, the entire U.S. electricity grid could have been converted to PV solar at retail prices for the panels.

      That is the extent of the Republican treason against America.

  • TexasTeaFinder

    Like the Nazis … how dare people defy them in the quest for their “Climate Reich”! These zealots have no place in society, whether they are psychotically pro “climate”, “atheism”, “gender confusion”, etc. These lunatics have started believing their own faux PC outrage and they must be shut down, immediately. Imagine what will happen if this comes to pass – whose credentials will they revoke next? Doctors who refuse to perform late term abortions? Doctors who refuse to perform gender reassignment surgery? Scientists who oppose genetic experimentation and cloning? Where does it stop?

  • susandanielspi

    It’s long since due that the UN get the hell out of the United States. Let them move to Belgium or somewhere else in Europe. We pay 23% of the cost to run it. It’s time to stop that money flow, too.

    • thought criminal # 12654070

      the UN is just another wealth transfer scam….

      • VendicarDecarian0

        The Principle problem with the U.N. is the ability of the U.S. to veto it’s decisions.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Susan. Did you know the only good Republican is a dead Republican?

      Now you know.

  • middleclasstaxpayer

    Well that isn’t very open minded or democratic. In fact it sounds more like evil dictator like Hitler would say. If they don’t believe in my facts ban them from participating and if that doesn’t work maybe we can get rid of them another way. There are some even suggesting that anyone who doesn’t go along the line that the man made global warming so called experts (mostly politicians) are pushing should be imprisoned in solitary confinement or even silenced by other means. Yes they are just like Hitler or worse.

  • southe123

    Climate change is junk science, else, they wouldn’t threaten those that disagree with such actions.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      No one has threatened anyone with “such actions”.

      You have been played for the stupid sucker you are, and you fell for it.

      You fall for it every time.

      Sucker…………………..

      • southe123

        Someone has apparently slipped some lysergic acid diethylamide into your organic green tea.

  • xman_11530

    Warmist desperation grows daily as more people wake to reality.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      As the following analysis shows, reality is somewhat different…

      • Story

        And 97% of American voters believe there are more pressing issues than “climate change”. Stick a fork in it…. it’s done.

  • Joe333

    I have high hopes for the film
    I hope that you guys don’t pull the same stuff they pull and use funky graphs and half truths.
    Simply laying out the actual known science from the theory is enough to calm the alarmism

    • VendicarDecarian0

      The last film produced by the denialists didn’t work out that well “global warming swindle”, it turned out to be filled with lies, testimony creatively edited to deceive and charts that were fabricated.

      They were sued several times by the people they interviewed for misattribution that threatened reputations.

      I have never met a conservative who wasn’t a congenital and perpetual lair.

  • Carefree Arizona

    These “green” people are pathetic. They should be called “black” instead, for they evoke nothing so much as the vicious intolerance of their Fascisti forebears. Certainly, they have no place in a forum where reasoned ideas are exchanged.

    • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

      Call them GreenShirts! It pisses them off.

      • Carefree Arizona

        Good suggestion, thanks. The 17th-century English poet Andrew Marvell has a good line: “Annihilating all that’s made. To a green thought in a green shade.”

      • VendicarDecarian0

        Well said brownshirt. You should put on your jack boots and dance a jig.

  • ScottPM

    Extrapolating models so far past the end of your data is always risky. Here’s just a few problems with GW.

    1. No warming for 16 years (
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2261577/Global-warming-stopped-16-years-ago-Met-Office-report-reveals-MoS-got-right-warming–deniers-now.html),

    2. ‘Scientists’ fixing their data (email gate), where they ask each other “How are we going to fix our data?” Worse than fixing a horse race.

    3. GW ‘scientists’ adjusting the data record of temperatures in the past downward to try and ‘prove’ GW.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/environment/globalwarming/11395516/The-fiddling-with-temperature

    If you have to fake your data, then you are not a scientist and in your heart you know it’s a scam.

    • http://GreenHeretic.com/ GreenHeretic

      Add to your list that there has not been any statistically significant warming.

      • ScottPM

        That’s #1. There are other problems, but liberals have a short attention span so i limit it to three.

      • VendicarDecarian0

        Looks pretty significant to me…

    • Noneya Biness

      That’s why they changed the name of their cult from Global Warming to Climate Change. That way they can claim they were right no matter what the climate does, so long as the climate just changes. Of course the climate is ALWAYS changing, so it’s an easy win.

      • VendicarDecarian0

        Oh look. Another denialist loser who can’t figure out that the CC in IPCC stands for Climate Change.

        There is dumb. And then there is Denialist dumb.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      No warming for 16 years?

      Liar.. Liar… Pants on fire…

      • ScottPM

        With fake data you can prove anything. Go see the links. You’ll have to google #2.

  • wootendw

    Calling people ‘deniers’ is ANTI-SCIENCE. Its purpose is to INTIMIDATE scientists and others into SHUTTING UP via ridicule, threat of ostracization, loss of job and, in some cases, criminal punishment. The latter may actually be occurring in New York.

    Small wonder that reports say ‘97%’ of scientists agree on climate change. Many scientists may be afraid to say in public what they say, or think, in private. It’s like Copernicus, who didn’t dare publish his heliocentric theory of the solar system/universe before his death. Galileo tried it and faced an inquisition. Darwin wanted to delay publishing his theory of evolution and natural selection until after his death because he feared criticism from theologians who might call him a ‘denier’ as many still do today. Fortunately, Alfred Russell Wallace’s similar theory hastened Darwin’s publication.

    Scientific theories, unlike mathematical theorems, are never actually proven. They become generally accepted but are always subject to question. Before the Renaissance, medieval scholars were actually a lot smarter than most people believe. They knew the earth was round long before Columbus. But, they also ‘knew’ that the universe was geocentric. They never bothered to check what they ‘knew’ to be true. It wasn’t allowed. But by the 20th century, things had changed. The Davson-Danielli model for cell membranes was accepted for 50 years before scientific evidence discredited it in favor of the fluid mosaic model.

    The term ‘denier’ (of climate change or other things) is an accusatory and derogatory term and its mere use in the context of science is dangerous to modern scientific thinking, especially as the term is appearing in mainstream publications and being uttered by those with political power. In fact, use of the term ‘climate science denial’ is downright anti-science and represents a return to medieval scholasticism, i.e., DOGMA. Users of the term, ‘denier’, should go back should go back to the Middle Ages where anti-science people belong. There, they can have fun burning ‘deniers’ like Giordano Bruno at the stake.

    • Jay_tea

      I think the terminology used was something like “97% of scientists agree that human actions impact the environment.” Which of course is like saying they agree that if you jump you move the earth.

      • VendicarDecarian0

        Looks like a valid statistic to me.

        • Jay_tea

          Exactly. And an equally valid statistic would be “97% of scientists agree that penguins impact the environment.”

    • Noneya Biness

      That’s why everyone should refer to Climate Change worshipers as “alarmists.” Two can play that word game.

  • http://www.return2sanity.com/ LoneStar

    The UN has no credibility, so I wouldn’t worry about it removing any credentials!

  • Hawkdriver1961

    “Activists” pressure UN to punish deniers? No sharing of ideas, no examining of facts…that is Fascism. That is tyranny. That shows what a fraud global warming really is. If something can’t stand the slightest scrutiny, it’s a lie.

  • buzzman1

    Great let them punish truth Sayers and that may finally get people to demand the UN get the boot from the US

  • Douglas Weiss

    Didnt the Catholic Church try Galileo in the Inquisition because he told them the universe does not revolve around the earth, that the earth and planets revolve around the sun. Heresy they screamed- a DENIER. It is the same scenario here. The left wants to promote the green businesses of their donor base; the donor base pays off the politicians; the UN and global left wants to redistribute the wealth with a world carbon tax. The billionaires are betting on the green revolution in the stock market. To hell with the fact these green energy companies go bankrupt soon after they get the taxpayer handouts and walk away with millions. To hell with the scientists that are NOT on the government payroll or receiving grant money that disagree. To hell with the windmills killing huge populations of birds, including our bald eagle. Which by the way is a protected species so where is the EPA swat teams???? To hell with the fact that cheap electricity was the engine for 20th century growth. To hell with the people and what they want. It is the government’s way or the highway. JUST FOLLOW THE MONEY.

  • Tootrue4you

    Keep your powder dry.

  • MichaelEHop

    If anything should convince people that there is real scam going on here, its asking for the opposition to be silenced. They are finally tipping their hand.

  • Douglas Weiss

    The UN is a joke. They blame Israel for everything. That seems to be all they do. And the idiots they put on the human rights committee like Iran, Saudi Arabia, Venezuela. It has turned into a global communist machine with desires of wold domination. A new world order of course run by the bureaucrats at the UN. Zeig Heil

    • VendicarDecarian0

      The U.S. is a joke. They protect and absolve Israel of every crime they commit.

      Those days are coming to an end as the U.S. vanishes as a nation.

      The world is a better place for it.

      • Douglas Weiss

        Israel commits the crime of self defense? and the palestinians commit the crimes of murder and in your pea brain that is the same thing. You are a total moron and an islamist sympathizer. The same thing that just happened in San Bernardino happens in Israel all the time. Americans will grow weary of the death cult of islam and then the tables will be turned. You obviously hate America so why dont you leave? Go live somewhere else like Somalia, good place for idiots like you.

        • mack2

          VendicarDecarian0 is a Palestinian living in Canada. Worked as a janitor at a High School in Ontario. Was arrested and (possibly) jailed for making threats against President Bush, as his trolling “went dark” for a period of time. He also posts as Scott Nudds, and Scott Douglas.

  • http://drudgereport.com StageCoachDriver

    People who disagree with the establishment should be denied their basic rights and placed under house arrest (or something like that) vis-a-vis Gallello.

    • LibertyWriter

      You threaten my largess from the government, you are racist.

      • http://drudgereport.com StageCoachDriver

        LAMO

    • JBSPuddintane

      Gruber

  • Darth Awesome

    The same people who can’t predict tomorrow’s weather with any accuracy are now privy to the Earth’s billions of years old climate cycle & shall now wage war against the Sun. All that is required is trillions of dollars in taxation & the subjugation of the world’s populace. Fascinating!

    • VendicarDecarian0

      I don’t think that the weather billions of years ago effects the weather we had today all that much.

      If you do, then your mental illness is even more pronounced that I originally concluded.

      • Darth Awesome

        ^^Doesn’t understand how knowledge of Earth’s climate cycle would pertain to predictions of future climate.^^

  • Bokshil Kim

    The four seasons are climate change. I ain’t talking bout the singers.

    • LibertyWriter

      I like the singers. OTOH, I am glad the climate changed finally here in Texas. Sunny and 70 degrees. Better than a week ago.

    • JBSPuddintane

      Vivaldi

    • JBSPuddintane

      Summer winter spring and fall these are the lonely times
      For the times I miss you most of all are summer winter spring and fall

  • geolforall

    There is another theory to explain climate change. The current theory says the climate is warming because CO2 is increasing and that the CO2 is increasing due to human activity. If you accept the theory that fluctuating CO2 causes climate change then what caused CO2 to fluctuate in the geologic past before there was human activity? One tenet of science is that theories must be repeatable. Another theory for climate change is this… The sun puts out varying amounts of solar radiation based on several cycles (Milankovitch cycles). 70% of the Earth’s surface is covered by water (the oceans). The Ideal Gas laws (Chemistry 101) states that warm water holds less gas in solution than cold water. THEREFORE…. When there is more solar radiation reaching the Earth’s surface the oceans are warmer and hold less gas (CO2) in solution and the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere increases. When less solar radiation reaches the Earth’s surface the oceans cool and hold more gas in solution, decreasing the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere. The beauty of this theory is that it can explain climate change today as well as climate change in the geologic past. The theory that human activity is causing climate change can ONLY be used to explain climate change today and does not explain climate change in the geologic past. Scientific theories cannot be selective but must be able to be applied across time.

    • CopyKatnj

      I agree with the Milankovitch Cycle theory. I would add to that, as the earth’s tilt goes from minimum (21 degrees) to maximum (25 degrees) the northern hemisphere receives more sun rays due to the angle of tilt. This is also supported by astronomy and geology sciences.

      You are correct that Milankovitch also explains past warming and ice ages.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      “The sun puts out varying amounts of solar radiation based on several cycles (Milankovitch cycles)” – GolfBall

      Sorry Kook but Milankovitch cycles are not cycles in the solar output, but slow, tens of thousands of year cycles in the insolation of the earth, resulting from changes in the earths orbital and rotational orientation.

      If you can’t even get that right, you have no use.

  • Todd Brown

    Typical progressives.
    Like Islam, Global warming is a cult belonging to pedophiles and homophobes

  • C. Adkins

    – it’s not about the weather, it’s about money and control.

  • AmericanMan2012

    THE CLIMATE CHANGES, YES, NOT MAN MADE, NOT TAXABLE, NOT A DARN THING MAN CAN DO TO CHANGE WHAT’S HAPPENING WITH A NATURAL CYCLE OF THE AXIS SHIFTING, AND SOLAR FLAIR CYCLES.
    CO2 IN NEEDED FOR PLANT GROWTH, WHICH PRODUCES OXYGEN, AND THE REST OF THIS MOVEMENT IS MONEY REDISTRIBUTION, AND THE CHURCH ENTERED THE PICTURE ONLY TO GET THE PROMISE OF A PIECE OF THE PIE FOR THE POOR.

  • Bokshil Kim

    Just vastly increase payments to Al Gore and this will all go away.

    • Rasputttin

      Why would I want to pay off thugs. I’d rather exterminate them

      • VendicarDecarian0

        Extermination is the destination for the Denialists.

        • Rasputttin

          I know. That’s why I want to exterminate the fascists first. Climate nazis have no value.

  • CopyKatnj

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep…but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.” C.S. Lewis

  • Albondigas

    If Al Gore is the patron, high-jacking saint of AGW, then let him fill a lecture hall with scientists who aren’t on the ‘take’ and address them in the pedantic, industry-specific vernacular that they like.

    If he gets past E=M-see-squared, then he will certainly win hearts and minds…(just not very big ones)

  • dan690

    You cannot pull off this scam if there are people out there telling the truth.

    • Rasputttin

      Yes you can. You put them in jail or kill them. They are fully capable of pulling it off

      • LibertyWriter

        They will have to kill me.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          You are an old man. Popping a balloon close to your head would probably kill you.

          • LibertyWriter

            Maybe. But I wont go to jail.

  • John Brink

    Let’s talk about who the real fascists are….

  • Two Buck Chuck

    Poor countries want our money, and we have a President who wants to give it to them and further bankrupt the USA.
    BHO is playing for the other side.

  • michael dodge

    Liberalism is satanism. Merry Christmas moooozloids!!

  • Skitz00

    They keep comparing today’s temperatures to those of 100 years ago. Besides the fact that 100 years barely registers as a data point in the history of the planet, nobody talks about HOW the temperature was measured 100 years ago.

    Sure, they had thermometers, but that was it. I doubt there was any real, comprehensive, scientific measurement of the “planet’s temperature” 100 years ago. Today they are using satellite-gathered data and computers and comparing that to analog measurements made here and there 100 years ago?

    The AP just led off another of their screeds with this bon mot:

    “PARIS (AP) — The cold hard numbers of science haven’t spurred the world to curb runaway global warming. So as climate negotiators struggle in Paris, some scientists who appealed to the rational brain are enlisting what many would consider a higher power: the majesty of faith.”

    There it is, the “science” of global warming is morphing into a cult. Runaway global warming indeed! Idiots.

  • HappyG

    Let’s start retaking of our planet by first hanging these a holes from the highest trees…

    • LibertyWriter

      I’m kind of a environmentalist. Would you consider street light poles?

      • HappyG

        How about we just feed them to the alligators instead?

        • LibertyWriter

          Alligators do not deserve more putrid flesh than they encounter in nature.

          • HappyG

            U right! How about throwing them into an active volcano then?

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Yup. That is the fate of the denialists.

  • Douglas Weiss

    Why is it you never see on tv or hear on the radio any real debate of this issue? They cant debate what is obvious for those that don’t follow the global leftist agenda. Just follow the money.

    • Rasputttin

      I agree but it’s not about money. It’s about controlling the masses. The left has always sought to organize the people towards a single focus. They used to do it nationally and with war. As did Woodrow Wilson with WWI. Now they are attempting it globally. It’s all about global government and communism.

    • LibertyWriter

      But..but 95.5% of the world’s scientists agree. They held the roll call vote on the weekend while I was skiing.

  • Rasputttin

    The climate nazis are serious about their delusions. I know we make fun of them, but they are seriously dangerous people. Think about this. If they are right about what they say then there is really only one solution. 2 billion people need to die. If these idiots really believe what they say then they have to be already thinking about this. History has already proven humans to be capable of this.

    • LibertyWriter

      I know they are serious and that is why I am taking names and numbers. I will not forget.

    • Story

      Socialists don’t need a reason to kill those who don’t toe the party line. All they need is the power and asshats like Vindi to help them pull it off.

  • jfhdsiu

    It is becoming frighteningly clear that most of the world’s leaders are barking mad insane. And too many rank and file ‘lack of knowledge ‘ people who are easily stampeded into a mindless mob through false fear.

    • JBSPuddintane

      The “Peter Principle” in action: the unqualified pop out the top!

  • HappyG

    The excess mining of the rare earth metals needed to produce the ‘green products’ is killing the planet faster than anything CO2 could ever do…and yet the Warmists never seem to have a problem with that pollution…The only ‘green’ in ‘going green’ is the $$$…

    • JBSPuddintane

      Aljazeera Green Gore chakra laka laka
      and so on…

  • NJ_Joe

    ALWAYS oppose any group that seeks to silence dissent. Dissenters can be wrong, so can the majority. Free speech and debate always reveals the truth.

    Climate Change theorists are socialist fascists that fear the facts.

  • Douglas Weiss

    Atomic energy is the cleanest proven energy source there is. You just need to store the waste in the Nevada desert. But the greenies want solar because small entrepreneurs can get a government handout to build a huge facility and rob the American public of taxpayer money. Nuclear is locked up in a very sophisticated industry that cant be easily or cheaply assembled

  • Clivus Multrum

    This is just more textbook cult behavior not unlike that of Scientology.

    • Rasputttin

      Satanic cult behavior

    • Bytor

      Unfortunately way more widespread and marketed. And the ignorant word wide suck it up because they want something to focus their misery on. It is criminal and evil.

  • Douglas Weiss

    The green energy companies then kick back a big percentage to the politicians. They pay for their political campaigns. Hell the Saudis gave the Obamas over 1 million dollars in gifts (tribute) for favors. How much did he get kicked back from Solyndra?

  • http://theextremeattitude.com/ Mark Tipton

    Galileo was under house arrest and was unavailable for comment!

    • Clivus Multrum

      Don’t look now, but Al Gore was last seen circling UrAnus.;-)

      • http://theextremeattitude.com/ Mark Tipton

        No worries, he is at his beach front home Malibu bought and paid for by Big Oil and Al Jazeera, apparently single-handedly holding back the rising tides (twice a day) and parting the sea!

        • Clivus Multrum

          I can see him now…wearing nothing but a loose fitting robe on his balcony, holding a glass of Chablis in one hand and a semi-perforated ballot form in the other …quietly mumbling..Why?….why..?

          • http://theextremeattitude.com/ Mark Tipton

            Because his masseuse did not appreciate the thong so he had to wear the robe too? Or you mean that whole nasty election thing? (Yeah I got it, but I could not resist!)

  • Jim Greaves

    Oh, boo, f-ing boo hoo. Now, they are finally admitting to the world that their “belief” in GW is a religion!? We knew that two decades ago, when Al mouth-flaming Gore breathed fire at us about “truth”!
    When do WE get to put all of “them” on a “terrorist watch list”? After all, what they PREACH is terror.

  • Douglas Weiss

    so the Catholic church has been bought out by the socialists, the climate changers, the illegals, hell they were the group responsible for bringing in the muslim population to San Bernardino, Ca. You dont believe me look it up. Follow the money. Immigration housing and detention is big bucks for private companies.

    • LibertyWriter

      Private companies with the word ‘Catholic’ included in the name much like ‘National’ Chamber of Commerce. Frauds.

  • Douglas Weiss

    and big bucks for the church and church charities

    • Rasputttin

      Many churches sold out long ago. Satan already sits in many pulpits

  • Littleredtop

    Many of the world’s greatest scientific minds deny human influence to climate change.

    • JBSPuddintane

      …and they all realize that science is never “settled”.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Actually, none of them do. Scientists go where the evidence leads them.

      And here is the evidence…

      • Littleredtop

        I guess you’re saying they follow the money.

  • Frederick Colbourne

    Climate activists? Luddites! Schmuddites! What do you expect?

    • JBSPuddintane

      The Pope chased Martin Luther all over Europe to have him burnt at the stake.
      Fascism lives!

  • JBSPuddintane

    We have a word in English: FASCIST.
    Learn it.

    • Jack Coyote

      Or Liberal.

    • Bytor

      Also… false prophet

      • JBSPuddintane

        Also… false profit.

        • Bytor

          touche! nice!

  • http://www.honoratus.org/ Snod

    Progressives are NAZIS and only want their agenda pushed period! It does not matter what they are pushing from LGBTQ deviancy to climate change lies!

    • Just Empty Every Pocket

      I’m of the opinion that low info liberals will push their insane agenda solely because it’s anti-Conservative. Otherwise, they don’t have a freekin’ clue.

      • http://www.honoratus.org/ Snod

        Many Progressives are low info many are very well educated deviants!

  • Jack Coyote

    UN, useless nabobs.

  • Just Empty Every Pocket

    I’m a denier. Globull warming is the biggest hoax ever perpetrated on mankind…short of Barry’s presidential eligibility. Stupid liberals know not what they do.

    • JBSPuddintane

      Unfortunately, smart ones do.

    • Simon Sez

      I am a denier as well, but the biggest hoax by far is religion although many would argue that climate change is a religion as well.

      • Just Empty Every Pocket

        True. But my believing in God doesn’t affect anyone else but me. Unfortunately, there are those that would like to deprive me of my beliefs.

        • Simon Sez

          True till you have a spouse and kids then they become infected with the virus of religion before they are old enough to use reason, evidence and logic to look at all religions are realize how silly they are. As bad as the religion of climate change is for the world, there is no arguing that religion has done more harm to mankind that climate change B. S. ever will.

          • LibertyWriter

            And you have isolated the ‘virus’? You are a sad man, indeed.

          • JBSPuddintane

            Another perspective –
            Religion: that set of rules by which I know I’m ok…and you’re not.
            That puts “the religion of climate change” right in there with the others.
            Belief in God, and relationship with Him is outside “religion”.

          • Just Empty Every Pocket

            So parents should refrain from instilling family values in their children’s behalf until they’re old enough to decide for themselves? Your post above is the epitome of what’s wrong with America. Spoken like a true liberal. Liberalism. Public Enemy #1. That’s you.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Values, yes. Religious nonsense no.

          • Obama Mama

            Boy…that was stupid.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Ya, just look at the war on Christmas.

          Isn’t Faux news pushing that bullshit this year?

          Awwwwwwwww…… Hahahahahahahah..

          • Just Empty Every Pocket

            Ah…just another troll. Nice.

      • VendicarDecarian0

        It looks pretty real to me..

        • Tom Magee

          So buy a fan since gasoline and oil aren’t going anywhere.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            And the world just keeps passing you by.

            Ahahahahahahahah……

    • VendicarDecarian0

      It looks pretty real to me.

      • Just Empty Every Pocket

        And you are an Obama voter. Pretty much says it all. Adios estupido.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          And I’ll be a Hillary voter too. Ahahahahaha… My goodness you Republicans are going to lose big time.

  • Jack Coyote

    Massive taxation and redistribution of wealth. That’s what it’s all about.

    • Bytor

      Command and control too. They want to run your life….. pure evil.

      • VendicarDecarian0

        I see, so your objection to the reality of Climate Change is that it can’t be happening because your taxes are too high..

    • VendicarDecarian0

      I see, so your objection to the reality of Climate Change is that it can’t be happening because your taxes are too high.

      • Jack Coyote

        Another liberal low-info. My taxes are too high, but if i thought the money was being used wisely, for good value, like to feed, clothe, house and give decent sanitation to millions of people world wide i could deal with it. Global warming is a Bernie Madoff like scam to confiscate and redistribute wealth. And there’s no telling where that money will wind up.

  • Federalist

    Billions of tax dollars have been soaked up by corrupt ‘scientists’ ostensibly to ‘prove’ the hypothesis of AGW, yet there is no evidence to support it. At some point, it must be admitted that the entire movement is a criminal scheme and those leading it must be prosecuted.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Don’t worry, the Military regularly use our supercomputers for weapons design.

  • JoeCurious

    97% of any group of people never agree on anything . . . the stat is either a) total BS or b) subject to manipulation (such as silencing any critiques of the official narrative)

    • LibertyWriter

      They must have had the vote when I was in the shower.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Well over 97 percent of doctors believe that viri and bacteria cause disease.

      You are right. It must be a conspiracy.

      When Republicans open their mouths. Stupid things come out.

      • Tom Magee

        I would wager that is actually a 100% consensus, unlike with man made climate change.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          100% consensus? That is proof that medicine must be a moon man Conspiracy.

  • JBSPuddintane

    These people put the UN in uncool.

  • Bytor

    You know anytime someone hast to use heavy handed threats, they are defending an outrageous lie that they can’t risk being exposed.

  • Tom Magee

    I wish it was warming. I hate the cold.

    • JBSPuddintane

      And the seashore is too far away.

      • Tom Magee

        The sea shore is close to me. As a matter of fact I fish in the streets ever since Miami became flooded with global warming.

        • JBSPuddintane

          How convenient!

        • VendicarDecarian0

          It is good that you are eating fresh meat rather than your usual dinner of road kill.

          • Tom Magee

            I’m not sure where it goes but South Florida is generally free of roadkill. I have to go shoot my squirrels and opossums.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            I guess other hungry Republicans are beating you to the free road pancakes.

      • VendicarDecarian0

        Patients.. Patients…

        • JBSPuddintane

          “Patients.. Patients…”
          ?
          Spelling.. Spelling…

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Full Definition of PATIENT
            1
            : bearing pains or trials calmly or without complaint
            2
            : manifesting forbearance under provocation or strain
            3
            : not hasty or impetuous
            4
            : steadfast despite opposition, difficulty, or adversity
            5
            a : able or willing to bear —used with ofb : susceptible, admitting

          • JBSPuddintane

            Now howsabout defining
            PATIENCE ?

          • VendicarDecarian0

            Not needed as that was not the word I correctly used.

          • JBSPuddintane

            Your initial use is in error.
            Is English your first language?

    • Bytor

      Don’t worry, pretty soon they will claim half the planet will burn up, and the other half in a deep freeze. Just pick your poison…

      • Tom Magee

        I grew up deathly afraid we were entering an ice age. They won’t trick me again with their war on personal transportation.

        • LibertyWriter

          I sometimes have dreams where I am in a classroom and I am not wearing clothes. It scares the schit out of me.

          • Tom Magee

            In a warm world you would never fear something like this!

          • LibertyWriter

            No, but everyone else would.

          • LibertyWriter

            But it is not a warm world.

          • VendicarDecarian0

            That dream is often associated with self doubt and a deep belief that they fear being revealed for what they really are.

            In one of my dreams I saw the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse riding in from a horizon filled with flames.

            I went to the top of the nearest roof and did battle with them.

          • LibertyWriter

            Another difference: I know that climate ‘science’ is no more a science than dream interpretation.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Ya, but without the cold you would have to contend with giant insects and tropical diseases like the ones near the equator.

      • LibertyWriter

        RAID!!!

      • Tom Magee

        I live in Miami. I will be just fine.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          You will soon be under water.

          • really.really!really?

            Put the bong down.

          • Dr_Chambers

            You clowns have been saying that for 30 years. I’m still sitting on my lanai watching the tides remain the same. Year after year after year. Ahhhhh, the good life.

  • Federalist

    Years ago, you could still find AGW proponents to debate with online. Now, nobody tries to defend the hoax in mixed conversation. Al Gore was right, the debate is over.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Yup. Gore was right from the beginning.

      The data has won, and the denialists never had a chance.

      • JBSPuddintane

        Good ol’ Aljazeera Gore.
        Uh-huh.

      • really.really!really?

        These are probably the same graphs using data from China when they were placing the recording equipment where it was not supposed to be. —– IN THE CITIES.

        • Joanna

          It’s just a made up BS graph of who knows what. They know how to use graphic software to draw a picture.. Big deal. They need to go back to art class.

      • Dr_Chambers

        You’re using your red crayon again, 0. Allagore Akbar!

  • zombietimeshare

    “with a call for delegates with contrarian opinions to be ejected from the UN talks”

    I wonder when the doomsday cultists will start calling their opposition heretics and demand exorcisms to drive out the contrarian evil spirits.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      If I had a volcano handy I would throw you in.

      • JBSPuddintane

        Give it time. You’re due for one nearby.

      • really.really!really?

        Speaking of volcanos – why haven’t the thousands and thousands of toxic eruptions already destroyed the earth? Mount St. Helen created more pollution, poisonous gases and air particles than the entire Industrial Revolution of the past 100-years.

  • Simon Sez

    Nothing good comes from government.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Except roads, police, courts, sanitation, standard weights and measures, and all of the other things that make modern life possible.

      • Tom Magee

        None of the things you mention actually works very well.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Improvements can be made, but then your taxes would be higher.

          Neglecting infrastructure in order to give tax breaks to the super rich is what Republicanism is all about.

          • Jack Kennedy

            and Stealing from the productive to buy the votes of the gimmedats is what democrooks/obama/hitlary/YOU are ALL about

      • LibertyWriter

        Except standard weights and measures everything else is state issues. Unless I am sadly mistaken, no state government is driving the global warming hoax.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Chemistry is.

          • Jack Kennedy

            wooow…………YOU are really going to enjoy the muzzie flying lessons …..

          • LibertyWriter

            Cite sources, chump. Chemistry. You are more stupid than I thought.

      • really.really!really?

        Please. The Government has never produced a foooocking thing. Everything you’ve cited is the result of the Government TAKING my money and wastefully spending it.

        The Constitution was and still is very clear. The Federal Government’s SOLE PURPOSE is the Defense of this Country. Period. And we need to take the power back at the State level.

        • VendicarDecarian0

          Except roads, police, courts, sanitation, standard weights and measures, and all of the other things that make modern life possible.

  • swan007

    How about we Ignore the activists and the UN it works for me.

  • dicksuckingmoslemprez

    More criminal sociopathy from “the tolerant left”

  • Richard

    I think the charlatans who take in millions of dollars pushing their unsettled science in the global warming field are desperate to get a deal done. They are very worried that the imminent decline in solar activity and the consequent decline in global temperatures over the next 15 – – 20 years that is being predicted by numerous scientists, will completely undo their scam. After all, despite the fear mongering and chicken little alarmist hype, the public is becoming more skeptical by the day, mainly because almost all the dire predictions made 20 – 30 years ago have not occurred. And of course the revelations of the lengths so-called climate scientists go to distort & adjust actual data to ensure the results align with their position have rightly created much doubt. Finally, in the vast number of cases, so-called studies cited by the global warming crowd to support their position actually do nothing of the sort if one actually reads the entire study. They are very selective when using information from those studies.

  • Blah Blah

    The climate change nazis are going down.
    And then they will be arrested for fraud and crimes against humanity.

    Smile for your mug shots Obama, George Soros and Al Gore…

    😀

  • Shelby Ford

    Climate the change, the new Fascism.

  • Blah Blah

    Here is the only video on the global warming scam you will ever have to watch again!

    Confessions of a Greenpeace Dropout – Dr Patrick Moore

  • ImaHippyBurning

    More tolerance and acceptance of a difference of opinion from the left I see! No wonder the Extremist Left in America and abroad closely resemble that of the Extremists Islamists!

    “Safe Place, Safe Place”

  • Tom Magee

    I’m not a denier. I’m a don’t carer. Warming, cooling. I just don’t care. I can adapt to anything the sun throws at me.

  • Blah Blah

    Isn’t it funny how everything Obama has ever said has been a scam and a lie?
    EVERYTHING!

    He will go down as one of the biggest traitors in American history.
    No wonder his own mother dumped him, she knew he was no damn good….

    • JBSPuddintane

      She voted “present”.

  • migtex1234

    Never seem so many political types pushing for total control over all you do ! This has never been about climate & all about control of citizens. Man cannot control the solar system.
    Note: who & types that are hustling. HO

  • D J

    Its scientific McCarthyism to weed out those who do not conform.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      It’s denialist nonsense that keeps ignorant suckers like you fall for so that you are kept angry like your masters want you to be.

  • http://ixquick.com Mark III

    Globalist liars push taxes, population control, and the nation merging agenda.

    The World Bank (UN finance institution) and IMF are based in Washington DC (both created at the 1944 Bretton Woods conference.)

    Visit the websites of these globalist institutions:

    United Nations
    Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
    Council of Councils (CFR Initiative)
    Trilateral Commission

    • VendicarDecarian0

      You are right Mark. Global Warming can’t be happening because your taxes are too high.

      • http://ixquick.com Mark III

        Yet another failed theory.

  • brew_it

    They want skeptics to wear a large yellow “D” on their clothing.

    • really.really!really?

      I already do. I drive a Suburban with a bumper sticker that says “Doing my part for Global Warming”. I also have a sticker right next to it that says “Hillary for Prison – 2016″……….

  • renojim_2000

    Far better to revoke the credentials of the ‘UN’. If they had any.

    • Joanna

      Way past time to kick them out of America.

  • The Donald

    LOL! The only thing gettin’ HOT is the Global Foolers heads!

  • BuckYourLies

    Must not have a defensible position of any so called “scientists” want to shut down dialogue and alternative viewpoints. The simple act of name calling and calling real scientists that research things ‘deniers’, shows their weak position as it is a micro-aggression commonly referred to by the left as “micro-invalidation”. Which is a tactic to get the reader to dismiss the opposite viewpoint while claiming some sort of higher ground. In fact all psychological studies show people who KNOW they are wrong will micro-invalidate opposition 8/10 times.

  • greggreen29

    Great! Kick the US out of the UN. We (the US) will give the UN a few months to pack their bags and find a new HQ.

    • really.really!really?

      I have been saying that for years. AND – you forgot one teeny tiny detail – STOP sending them our tax dollars.

  • Loyd

    All a pack of lies and hog chit. This global warming phenomenon is purely a natural cycle that occurs over many thousands of years. All of the people living on the coastal low areas need to move and adjust to it because all the money, silver, gold, diamonds, platinum, rubies, gems of all nations on earth and whats still in the ground is not going to stop it.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      I’ve never seen a cycle that looks like this.

      • Joanna

        Oh anybody with fake science can make a graph look like anything they want to steal the worlds wealth.

  • MicheleLloyd

    Ohhhh…climate denier….so very un-PC, and anti-UN. I’m going to start making T-shirts and sell them outside of the conference room where the blowhards are meeting…ill make a ton of money.

  • Ihaveonlyoneright_tovote

    It takes a special kind of stupid to not be able to think for yourself. That is why I do not care what I get called for denying something that I can see for myself is a false assumption. There is no point in arguing about things that are out of your control. I can’t control the natural decay of organic material. I can’t control volcanoes. I can’t control the amount of energy the sun produces. That is why I am not worried about it. I could say more but long posted usually get overlooked.

  • JoeKlip

    Lets send all denier to science re-education facilities.

    • really.really!really?

      Sarcasm – I trust?

      • JoeKlip

        The leftist favorite argument for all those who oppose their doctrine is indoctrination and re-education.

  • really.really!really?

    Revoke credentials. Eliminate “assault weapons”. Don’t fear our Muslim neighbors. Boy the Left sure likes the talk but won’t do the walk. Liberals are dain bramaged.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      You should fear. That is what your masters want. That is how they control you.

      Sucker………………..

      • Jack Kennedy

        says the mook that worships at Gruber’s altar …………

  • Jerry

    and so the fascist of the climate hoax continue to clamp down on scientific inquiry. This is turning into Maoist China quickly

    • VendicarDecarian0

      I don’t think that the premier of a Right wing propaganda film is in any way a clamp down on scientific inquiry.

      First, it isn’t science.

      Second, no one is attempting to halt it.

      But you think so, because…

      1. you are an uneducated loon.

      and

      2. You are so easily played or the sucker you are.

      • Ozzone

        Why not? Since a left wing propaganda film riddled with lies basically kick started it. Al Gore’s mockumentary “An Inconvenient Truth” had millions of idiots swallowing that tripe. It isn’t science either. His primary evidence that the earth was warming was because of the infamous and totally bogus “hockey stick” graph. That thing was debunked 100%.

        Pretty much every prediction model has failed. Why are we to believe the “science” when it keeps being wrong? Why are we to believe graphs when they keep manipulating them to meet their agenda?

  • Brian washere

    Between president Fecal Midas’ positions on Islamic terrorism and AGW if you can’t bring yourself to vote for Trump to undo what this gigantic unflushable turd has created then you are an absolute MORON. I have to believe Trump will also call a spade a spade and remove us from the UN and kick them out of this country for good.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Every vote for Trump is a vote for Hillary.

      I love it.

      • Jack Kennedy

        so, tell US why YOU hate America ……..

        • VendicarDecarian0

          50 million murdered by America since it’s creation.

      • Ozzone

        No, every vote for Trump is for Trump. Reality.

        • Joanna

          It’s driving these commie libs crazy…::

          • Ozzone

            The desperation will increase.

  • Tom Magee

    We can lock them up next to the folks that deny the lunar landings.

    • Joanna

      The lunar landings are a lie to steal money also. They cant get into anything called space. It’s just another Freemason scam.

  • http://www.theantiliberalzone.com/ Gunny G Anti Liberal Zone

    The Left is finally out of the closet and are declared enemies of liberty and freedom.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Sorry loon, but the COP meeting is by invitation only.

      • Jack Kennedy

        your bozoshill check is waiting at ofa hq

  • really.really!really?

    I really would like to know why when you break a light bulb NOW – you have a small toxic spill. Yet before you just swept up the glass. BTW – what happens to all that mercury going into the landfills? Doesn’t sound green to me.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Mercury is a problem but since the amount of mercury diverted from the environment is reduced by not burning coal – to produce the energy that would otherwise be wastefully consumed, the overall release of mercury into the environment is reduced.

      It will be reduced even more with the adoption of LED lighting.

      • Jack Kennedy

        aren’t YOU the good Gruberite

  • Ray Williams

    Climate fascists!

  • Strategerist

    The “solution” is to tax the prosperity out of America and other first-world countries.
    Until the solution is tied to some other solution that does NOT involve taxing the mess out of America and other countries, then I’ll start to listen and take these yahoos seriously.
    Until then, I’ll listen to the thousands of other scientists who reject this baloney.

  • Miles to Code

    Since when was the UN in charge of giving out scientific credentials?

    • really.really!really?

      Since they moved to NY.

      • Miles to Code

        I must have missed that development.

  • Truth Matters

    The UN comment seeking to harm those who dare disagree wwith their hoax scheme is tantamount to a declaration ofwar against the cast majority of Americans. It is time to kick the UN off our soil permanently.
    gainst

  • really.really!really?

    Mount St. Helen alone caused more pollution and poisonous gases in one eruption than the entire Industrial Revolution of the past 100-years.

    Why haven’t the tens of thousands of volcano eruptions already destroyed the earth?

    I can never get a Global Warming Supporter to answer that argument with any answer – much less a straight one.

    • VendicarDecarian0

      Liar Liar, pants on fire.

      • Dr_Chambers

        You showed him. Didn’t you, fraudster?

  • tgcrawford

    Perhaps if they can get Isis to go after “deniers” since the UN share fascist goals, i.e. Anyone that disagrees with us we destroy

    • really.really!really?

      At that point we “deniers” will have a more clear target with which to engage.

  • OldOllie

    It’s long past time that we “revoke the credentials” of the UN.

  • Stephen Tobe

    If you deny the Globullshevik climate propaganda they will use Saul Alinsky tactics and marginalize you.

  • VendicarDecarian0

    Republicans are congenital liars.

    • Suchery Robin

      I am not a Republican I vote on ‘issues’ not party.

  • Trayvon Obama

    Just the fact they are making such a big deal about deniers is a huge red flag. I guess if it’s been so proven, we should stop all funding for further study. These “scientist” have sold their souls for research money. EcoNazis

    • OldOllie

      It’s not just money, although there are certainly $billions at stake. It’s also about having the power to boss people around and take their stuff.

  • Dimocrats=NewNazis

    This is how the Naz|’s did it too. They “revoked” the credentials of Jewish artist at the time. All of a sudden, they couldn’t belong to artist organizations and clubs etc…. Everything done by Jewish artists, poetry, sculpture etc… was labeled degenerate etc….

    Every day the leftist become more and more like the Naz|’s. The scary thing is, they’re so open about it, about what they’re doing, they just shun the label.

  • Juanita Broaddrick’s Lip

    Anthropogenic Climate Change is the new Flat Earth Society.

  • Pat Patterson

    Time to blow up the UN. Nothing more than a bunch of thug countries.

  • scot

    Liberalism is an evil religion. That is why they tolerate islam.

  • Jamie Schoenian

    Dumbasses are so scared of the truth they now want to silence all critics and the truth.

  • sfchuck

    Naturally, those who don’t have the facts in their favor seek to stifle the truth. The IPCC acolytes lean heavily on their “97 percent consensus” of scientists in a feeble effort to lend credence to their wrong-headed belief. But, of course, consensus is the wrong way to conduct scientific inquiry. The proper method is to gather the facts…ALL the fact, evaluate them and then draw conclusions based on that evaluation. Just declaring a preconceived notion as factual doesn’t begin to make it so.

    And certainly changing temperature records, constructing flawed models, publishing incorrect…or flat dishonest…results and seeking to discredit those who are skeptical by virtue of their own research doesn’t augur well for their credibility.

  • ItsPolitics101

    Time to get the UN out of the US. I can only imagine the real estate it sits on is worth a pretty penny and that land could be put to good use for the good of Americans.

  • http://thesquirrelsnestblog.wordpress.com/ John Walt

    These Climate Change Chumps should all be jailed for life. The UN disbanded.

  • MaroonVee

    “Gore prompted me to start delving into the
    science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp…Climate
    models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact.” –
    Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming
    to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee.

  • Joanna

    Time to revoke the Freemason UN..::

  • Bobby

    “Climate Change”, the opiate of the masses, the bible of the small minded.

  • factsearch

    get the UN the hell out of America!

  • carl6352

    is this a science or a religion. we all remember learning in school about the flat earth science where the church got involved claiming heracy to say it was round then they burned you to death in pyres! this religion has turned into the flat earth society!

  • Jim Thompson

    These characters no longer can claim any relationship to science as science is practiced. Science welcomes dissenting opinion in its search for the truth. These clowns are nothing but a cult… a ridiculous collection of miscreants who could care less about the truth and about science. It’s a simple FACT that temperature data has been manipulated and that the Satellite data has not, which shows a different picture of the temperature profiles over time.

  • JB1794

    Hilarious that the people caught lying in Climategate one and two with all the false data e-mails are now advocating silencing those who actually stick to hard data telling the truth.
    When you get paid by politicians and falsify data to keep your job, it makes sense for the lapdogs to go to their keepers for help. This is Orwellian, hypocrisy at it’s very definition. I find liberals who get ripped apart by facts and rational only can turn to silencing their critics as their last hope. Their false claims can so easily be picked apart, they know they have no other option. Works for every despot in history, at least in the short run.

  • ronfromflorida

    This hoax is done. toast, finito, end of story fire from Government work anyone involved in it.

  • RichWall

    This sure shows this issue is driven by Politics, not Science.

  • Royg

    I see $$$$$ floating in the air into some political chaps pocket.

  • ssgtnelson

    Who’s surprised? Seriously? These people can’t stand having anyone question them… and like all Liberals, they happily silence anyone against them while claiming they want an open and honest debate.

  • bigbiz2

    Needs to demand that the USA stop funding more than her fair share25% of their anti American budget is too much.. Should be 3% and increase their rent or move to China..

    • Christopher

      Too much. But the move to China is a great idea, I’m sure they would build them a grand new palace.

      • FL_Stingray

        Not to mention choking on Chinese air pollution

  • john pierre smith

    The Activists are the LIARS

  • bigbiz2

    I remember as a young student in the 50’s that trees loved cO2 and in turn they gave us the gift of oxygen .. Are the forest over growing be cause of too much c02… Dying..Or are the flat earther volcano worshippers going to say plants don’t need such a pollutant

  • restorefredom

    UN is evil.

  • Princess Kobe

    Global warming is statist fraud. A heavy-handed means to divert income to govt coffers and golf outings. Hypocrisy at its best. Incompetence at its worst.

  • jerreydealiz

    Welcome to emerging dark ages, going back to the age of fundamentalists against Copernicus and Galileo. Scientific method does not matter only politics? You don’t have to prove anything, just punish people who do not believe as you do.

  • Whump

    “Glo-Bull Warming” is caused by “research” grants.

  • http://groups.yahoo.com/group/EvidencefortheBible/ Galut1

    The left does not want objectivity …just compliance come H*** or high water

  • Seriously

    Revoke this!

  • T.W.

    I wish the UN would invalidate America’s credentials……GET AMERICA OUT OF THE UN!

    • Rasputttin

      And get the UN out of America

  • T.W.

    Climate hoax 101.

  • Whump

    But… But…

    97% of people the Glo-Bull Warming Cult are allowing to speak agree with the Glo-Bull Warming Cult…

  • BillAborn

    These “Warmers” are nothing but money hustling Nazis and their followers are descendants of those who believed that the Earth was flat and the moon was made of green cheese.

    • BillAborn

      P.S. It helps to know what “The Climate” is, by that I mean the parameters of what “climate” is, it’s definition:
      (This, I’ve found, gives all the parameters and points out that different regions have different “climates”!) http://firstchurchofnaturaltheology.com/lets-talk-climate/

  • Horace Yo

    Vendicar is a typical higher level educated fool Global Warmunist sellout with a high dollar education. Most of them are sociologists, English, phiosophy , poly sci majors, womens studies, racial studies types etc. though. Few hands on technicians or engineers among them. They use manipulated data to fool the weak minded. Facts upset them, and they refuse to hear them. They are totalitarians pure and simple. Just read his posts. They want to kill anyone who questions their hoax. Typical totalitarians. They are so invested in the hoax that they have become homicidal in their fevered brains.
    It is well documented that the climate is always changing. Warming on the surface of theEarth comes from the Sun (except for very minor amounts from within). CO2 is a trace gas – 0.035 percent – in our atmosphere and it is ridiculous to try to blame any global warming or cooling that may occur on it. It will do to base their totalitarian hijack of national governments worldwide on though. The proles are easily fooled. Fuel poverty, death for all who live in cold climates, economic disaster here we come.
    Communism has another new facelift and its pulling their ears off, and starting to rip their faces off up the middle and you can see the death’s.head leering through at humanity through their vicious hatred of the truth and homicidal plans for the human race.

    • Dr_Chambers

      Vendicar is a fraud. If he was legit he would proudly provide his name, the source of his credentials, the institution he works for (if any), any and all published research he has produced. He cuts and pastes data from various leftist sources. He goes on about the sanctity of surface temperature monitoring without explaining why NOAA only use certain devices at specific altitudes to measure the temperature. while ignoring those placed along the various mountain ranges (base and altitude). I bear him no credence.

      • mack2

        VendicarDecarian0 is troll – he’s a Palestinian living in Canada. Worked as a janitor at a High School in Ontario. Was arrested and (possibly) jailed for making threats against President Bush, as his trolling “went dark” for a period of time. He also posts as Scott Nudds, and Scott Douglas.

  • Scott

    This hoax / scam began to crash and burn a long time ago. This is just desperation before it’s final breath, move on nothing to see here.

    • Rasputttin

      You are vastly underestimating these people. They are fascist nazis and capable of anything. They will not stop unless we physically stop them. There is no political solution.

  • Chris King

    global taxation is the only goal.

    • Rasputttin

      Global government and the death of America.

  • odysseus660

    The Koran + climate change= Obama’s new Amerika.

  • FredTex

    The liberals last ditch effort to control the air you breathe. After all, you are a CO2 polluter.

    • Rasputttin

      It’s our very existence they want to control. That and the world.

  • another_conservative_in_exile

    when politicians are driving a scientific debate, instead of scientists, there’s your first clue that it’s not a scientific debate at all, but a political one. the way scientific theory works is that a scientist proposes a theory, and then other scientists try their best to pick it apart, and invalidate it, BY TESTING THE THEORY, by DUPLICATING THE TESTING FOR THE SAME RESULTS, and after exposing every possible weak link in the theory to testing, they either prove the theory wrong, or they slowly start to believe that the theory may be true. but with global warming, the scientists were threatened into bypassing the peer review and the politicians went directly into a fascist style silencing of all dissent. but why? well, has anyone noticed that Al Gore ( who got D’s and F’s in college science courses, and flunked out of college 2 or 3 times) is on his way to becoming a billionaire on this junk science. follow the money folks.

  • mikeinchicagoarea

    Why do they want to silence the deniers? What do they want to hide?
    Why are they afraid to have a legitimate debate with the opposition?

    • Rasputttin

      They have an agenda. They want a one world global government. They want mankind to be a slave to their system. If they can make enough people think the world is dying they can make you surrender your freedom. They don’t need a bunch of free thinkers messing it up for them.

  • DAMION

    I’m a denier…nah nah nah nah ha

    • Hedley Lamar

      On man….so am I!

  • Rasputttin

    If man made climate change is real, and the death of the planet and all mankind was going to happen as a result. There is only one solution. Two billion people must die. Imagine what you might be capable of if you really believed thus junk. You could kill millions and feel good about it. You’d think of yourself as a hero for saving mankind by eliminating over population. Don’t think these people haven’t already thought about it.

  • billyboi57

    Screw all of the global warming elitists. I am an independent person and I will believe what I wish to believe. The climate has been changing since the beginning of anything and no one will account for it. Go to hell.

  • Nonya Busness

    if it was so settled then why wont they allow the documented scientists to publish their findings .
    because they do not meet the agenda what they have to say would derail the paid for scientists and they would then lose their funding .
    if this were not a scam there would be no need to adjust any of the raw numbers you make your model based on the raw data no model ever made in the pursuit of a scientific conclusion ever had its raw data tampered with .. that ruins the conclusions and is no longer science.
    and then to hide the raw data so no one can duplicate what their conclusions are is just ludicrous and then to top It off they then purposely leave off the most accurate and extensive sensor system available and then to say what has been recognized for years as the most reliable now is not to be trusted because it does not meet the agenda
    and breaks all of the models..
    at that point it becomes junk science and every one that follows it are lying .

  • kemboi

    Lol. Do the climate fanatics have a safe place to avoid having to debate facts?

  • wonderingstevie

    Revoke credentials today. Use government data bases to purge general population tomorrow.

  • Janet91

    What’s especially likely to derail any treaty, as far as we’re concerned, is the 2/3 Senate vote required to ratify it.

    • wonderingstevie

      Do you really think Obama will take it to the Senate? He’ll come up with some kind of ruling that it is not required. – Bet.

    • Hedley Lamar

      Paul Rino is planning to give Obama a blank check to do whatever he wants so Obama will transfer billions with no authority.

  • Hedley Lamar

    Some of us have been saying that globull warming is a religion. Turns out that is exactly what has happened.

  • Walt99

    Thugs and thiefs are all that occupy the UN now days , lie , cheat and steal is how they get ahead….

  • desertspeaks

    if we don’t muzzle the thinking people, those that have been lulled into believing the propaganda might start thinking for themselves and we can’t have that! That would cause all sorts of problems.. they would begin to notice that EVERYTHING we’ve been telling them is nothing but LIES!

  • Kra kar

    The planet is turning the corner for the final stretch toward WWIII Christians vs Mooooslums and the L!BTards are still looking for more donors to their scientology-weather-scary cult.

    After we wipe that death cult Islam off the planet, we should round up ALL Leftists and toss them in a mulcher for fertilizer.

  • desertspeaks

    I am really enjoying all the HEARSAY being spewed as though it has some basis in reality!! Is there any evidence that any of you can proffer that you can personally attest to the veracity of that proves your assertions?? NOPE! all you morons have is regurgitated hearsay, blind belief, opinions and feelings!
    It’s truly pathetic!

  • Tony

    you fools. you mess around with climate while muslims plan to kill all of you. don’t you understand anything? Probably not. enjoy having your head on a stick you simple, stupid, stunning so called “scientists”.
    What fools.

  • Mark Hales

    What should the climate be?? Who will report when the climate has stopped changing?

    LIBTARDS are retards!!

  • NoMoLies

    Record breaking ice the past two years in both the arctic and Antarctic seems to me to be a scientific fact that is totally ignored by these clowns who wish to steal money from the world to pay for their carbon credits. Global warming, what little we have seen of it and which seems to have passed and even reversed was clearly happening all over our solar system. When I was at NASA in Greenbelt Maryland in 1992 it was common knowledge that the Sun had been increasing it’s energy output and was expected to continue this abnormally high output until “at least 2012”. It was huge news at NASA and everyone was talking about it. Strangely, there was almost no mention of this in the mainstream media, which many of us found absolutely baffling. All the planets in the Solar System and their satellites were experiencing temperature increases, not just the Earth. This hard science has been kept out of the discussion proving to me there has been a long term agenda playing out with regards to so-called global warming, now called climate change.

  • Mark Hales

    Ok…how about this…..Stop Plate Tectonics

  • Elapoides

    A message to all you liberals and pseudo-scientists: Discedere ad inferos! Perite!

  • Lars

    The (Climate Change) Moniker that used to be (Global Warming) , But they could not prove the warming and the world is still here. According to the activist , the polar caps should have melted and civilization should have collapsed by now. Since it did not happen like they said it would they had to come up with another way to get grant money from the government. “The sky is falling!!! The sky is Falling!!! We need millions to figure out how to stop it.” The Party in power says that Climate Change is a real problem , so researchers , colleges and universities, and any scientist that wants free money is out to prove it so. So Obama say the the sky is falling and he wants an answer. So some unscrupulous scientist gets a $20 million dollar grant and writes a paper that says that the problem is caused by cow farts. So Obama bans cow farts and wants to send $1 billion a year to under developed countries to compensate them for ecosystem damage from U.S. Cow farts. Now does anybody besides me see that whole scenario as a little bit fishy? I know I was sarcastic but it is just about the truth. The fact of the matter is Global Climate Change is caused by the cycles of the sun and the earth. We can no more have an impact on these cycles , than an ant can stop the rain. We actually are entering a period of global cooling due to the known cycles of sun. We do on the other hand pollute our environment with toxic substances that affect all lifeforms on the planet. But we do not change the weather because of it. Now lets explore Carbon, Carbon is the most needed substance on the planet. It is plant food and we actually have a CO2 shortage in our atmosphere. The coal industry pores much needed plant food into the environment It is for real , beneficial to the planet. This whole thing Obama is doing, is to promote Green technologies and transfer wealth to developing countries. many countries in the world do not have the energy infrastructure that we do. In developed countries we have a massive amount of coal fired electric power stations. In the the rest of the world that is emerging they are energy hungry They also ripe for investment by Corporations in the developed world that are seeking to develope a green electric power infrastructure. So the UN treaty is to pore huge amounts of money into these countries then green technology companies go in and exploit the opportunity. It is just a huge scam to make money from technology and taxes. It is complete BS but the PC police are commanded by the Pharaoh to shame the deniers. What Obama is doing is committing a crime against the citizens of the USA…..

  • vutsrq

    It’s way past time we left the UN and evicted it from the United States. It’s nothing but a Communist cess pool. Maybe President Trump will get it done.

  • Snailmailtrucker

    I am nearly 100% sure…. Donald Trump (being a New York City native) would be More than Willing to….

    GET THE US OUT OF THE UN
    and
    GET THE UN OUT OF THE US !

  • Glen3

    Global warming fanatics should be put on a blacklist along with every other communist.

  • Who U Gettin Crazy Wit Ese

    The stupidity of human beings never ceases to amaze. How can they not see that the proliferation of global warming fanaticism is being fostered by governments all of the world in order to institute a carbon tax and steal more of our hard earned money. They are the people Lenin had in mind when he coined the phrase “useful idiot”.

  • Rogerfromnewzealand

    You know when Lorf Monckton came to my city, it fell to me to arrange his engagements and venues,
    I tried to get together a forum of Greens to engage the good lord in a public debate. I must have rung every green MP and many other greens besides. Do you know, they all ran a mile. The way I see it, they all knew that they were scarce on facts and didnt want to be exposed. Especially Kennedy Graham MP who replied my query with several incoherent emails.
    So I challenge the frauds at Paris to engage in a factual discussion with their “denier” colleagues at a neutral venue. I know their “denier” colleagues will be able to point to a mountain of empirical data which Greens abhor, and will furthermore be able to expose some very shoddy green “science”. But whatever greens, do something reasonable and stop moaning.

    Roger
    http://www.thedemiseofchristchurch.com

  • TRAITORS

    The tolerant left. You better believe what we tell you to believe or we’ll shut you up. Tolerance and Gulags for everybody!

  • ET

    Somebody had better stop these delusional Leftist scumbags before they start gassing us.

  • M. N.

    When will they reduce their carbon footprints to ZERO!

  • Itsover2016

    Last time I checked the UN is not the world’s cop…best get out of the business of regulating speech, opinions, and facts, your all ready much hated, go away.

  • dr3yec

    Yawn……as I take my hummer for a very long ride.

  • purple1960

    THE LEFT WOULD HAVE STONED COPERNICUS TO DEATH…..

  • Jonny rRingworm

    If they are trying that hard to make global warming doubters against the law, then it don’t add up to me. If it was true wouldn’t you want doubters to try to knock holes in it? Also if it were true doubters would be really reaching to knock it down, but from what I’ve seen they didn’t have to reach at all. It just don’t add up to me, but I’m no expert….

  • Lachesis

    Isn’t this just like what radical Muslims do? Convert, believe, or pay the consequences? The Sun is going into a hibernation cycle, which according to the geologic record leads to mini ice ages. The Geologic record does not suggest that high levels of carbon, CO2, or burning fossil fuels by the missing link or other pre humans was responsible for these mini ice ages. What is interesting is that apparently the non activity of the Sun results in increased levels of plate tectonics, obviously leading to more Earthquakes & volcanic activity.
    Science ceases to be science when politics & politicians become involved.

  • Betsy Smith

    I am disgusted with these people.

  • Elapoides

    Furor Obama has spoken, prostrate yourselves before his alter & golden teleprompter!

  • The Blue Duck

    Ahhh Climate change..you can hear a lisp as the page loads.

    (Sound of loud and continuous farting )
    Sorry just had chilli using charcoal grilled beef . ( BURP ) .

    What do you call a rich catholic using your money to save the third world ?
    The Vatican .
    J/K ..
    I’ll give a year of income (cough) to the dogma of the climate zealots ..if …if ….and only if …..they can stop ONE volcano from emitting co2 .Do that..and I’m in…

    other than that..

    I would be willing to fund charcoal fueled terror BBQ beef / pork attacks wherever a climate meeting is occurring .
    call me .

    1-800-sniff.me.where.I.poop

  • BigMikeOR

    Like destroying people for saying something 20 years ago, or taking their sports franchise, or career of anyone who has a different opinion. The liberal terrorists are still attacking and destroying anyone that doesn’t agree with them.

  • jwhid3

    I’m told I am a science denier, but isn’t satellite data “science?” Despite the models being proven wrong, leftist continue to push this ridiculous hoax. You could even catch so-called climate scientists colluding in emails about manipulating the data to server their beliefs, and folks on the left would still believe in AGW, Wait a minute, that already happened. Lefties are just like little kids getting caught with their hand in the cookie jar, and then saying they didn’t do it.

  • Chris

    The so called greens should really be called watermelons because they are green on the outside and red (as in communist red) on the inside.

    The environmental movement is the new communism with a command and control agenda. As soon as they get together they propose massive wealth transfers which have nothing to do with saving the planet.

  • Sean64

    Defund the UN. What a waste of money!

  • TXMAN67

    The left wants to be able to cherry pick data to support their agenda, and then silence anybody who calls them out on it.

  • Seerightthere!

    Typical leftist/communists. How about we turn it around on them? I suggest prison followed by a lifetimes work at fast-food restaurants until they repay the money they have stolen with their lies.

  • Robert Mull

    You would think the communists would have picked something other than C02 as all plants and trees need that.. MORONS

  • http://www.therightperspective.org/Audio/nimshows/ BigBoa

    These clowns should all be locked up along with congress, Hillary and King Putt…….

  • http://richmondtommy.wordpress.com/ Tommy Tomhan

    i guess in their opinion free speech is only for those it deems correct. Sad.

  • PJ London

    You have no idea how miserable they are that fires create CO2, if it were not for that little fact, they could call for the deniers to be burned at the stake.
    Hoist by their own petard.

  • Griefner

    A little history on Global Warming in Alaska….

    In 1794, Captain George Vancouver cruised by what is now the entrance to Glacier Bay & found it to be filled with tidewater glaciers & no bay. In 1879 almost a hundred year later John Muir visited the same area & noticed that the glacier had retreated 48 miles north into the bay. Today, those same glaciers have retreated a total of 60 miles in a little over 200 years.

    80% of the melting occurred between 1794 and 1879. 85 years prior to the industrial revolution.

    20% of the melting has occurred from 1879 to 2015. 136 years after the industrial revolution.

    Climate Change happens; has been since the beginning of time.

    Man has had very little, if anything, to do with it.

    Obumbler will not relate these facts to you because they go against his personal war on fossil fuels.

    New studies flip climate-change notions upside down

    The sun will go into “hibernation” mode around 2030, and it has already started to get sleepy. At the Royal Astronomical Society’s annual meeting in July, Professor Valentina Zharkova of Northumbria University in the UK confirmed it – the sun will begin its Maunder Minimum (Grand Solar Minimum) in 15 years. Other scientists had suggested years ago that this change was imminent, but Zharkova’s model is said to have near-perfect accuracy.

    So what is a “solar minimum”?

    Our sun doesn’t maintain a constant intensity. Instead, it cycles in spans of approximately 11 years. When it’s at its maximum, it has the highest number of sunspots on its surface in that particular cycle. When it’s at its minimum, it has almost none. When there are more sunspots, the sun is brighter. When there are fewer, the sun radiates less heat toward Earth.

    But that’s not the only cooling effect of a solar minimum. A dim sun doesn’t deflect cosmic rays away from Earth as efficiently as a bright sun. So, when these rays enter our atmosphere, they seed clouds, which in turn cool our planet even more and increase precipitation in the form of rain, snow and hail.

    Solar cycles

    Since the early 1800s we have enjoyed healthy solar cycles and the rich agriculture and mild northern temperatures that they guarantee. During the Middle Ages, however, Earth felt the impact of four solar minimums over the course of 400 years.

    The last Maunder Minimum and its accompanying mini-Ice Age saw the most consistent cold, continuing into the early 1800s.

    The last time we became concerned about cooler temperatures – possibly dangerously cooler – was in the 1970s. Global temperatures have declined since the 1940s, as measured by Pacific Decadal Oscillation. The PDO Index is a recurring pattern of ocean-atmosphere climate variability centred over the Pacific Ocean. Determined by deep currents, it is said to shift between warm and cool modes. Some scientists worried that it might stay cool and drag down the Atlantic Decadal Oscillation with it, spurring a new Ice Age. The fear was exacerbated by the fact that Earth has been in the current inter-glacial period for 10,000 years (depending on how the starting point is gauged).

    If Earth were to enter the next Ice Age too quickly, glaciers could advance much further south, rainforests could turn into savannah, and sea levels could drop dramatically, causing havoc.

    The BBC, all three major American TV networks, Time magazine and the New York Times all ran feature stories highlighting the scare. Fortunately, by 1978 the PDO Index shifted back to warm and the fear abated.

    Climate science vs the skeptics

    By the 1990s the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) had formed the “97 per cent consensus”. The consensus was that Earth was warming more than it should, not just due to natural causes but also human activity. This was termed Anthropogenic Global Warming. The culprit was identified as carbon dioxide generated from the burning of fossil fuels.

    CO2 is a greenhouse gas and its increase in the atmosphere could be dangerous, the panel claimed. Some of these scientists, particularly those working at the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), Nasa’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies and Britain’s Meteorological Office, have gone so far as to declare CO2 as the primary driver of climate on Earth. This modern “climate science” has stirred unprecedented controversy in the field. Skeptics, clinging to more traditional approaches, say the science has been corrupted by the billions of dollars in government funding for climate-change research and agencies and industries that claim to be “fighting climate change”. The counter-argument is that the skeptics are backed by the oil, gas and coal industries or are affiliated with conservative political groups.

    The biggest bone of contention between the two groups is how the data are assessed. In the United States, the recorded temperature data go back to 1880, and elsewhere not even that far. Those data have to be “stapled on” to the ice-core data used to determine temperatures in earlier times. This has led to controversial representations, such as the infamous “hockey stick” graph released by the IPCC that gave the impression the world is hotter now than ever. Many scientists slammed the graph as wholly unrealistic, insisting that previous eras, such as the medieval warm period and the Holocene maximum were warmer than today.

    Another issue is the urban “heat island” effect. Black asphalt roads and concrete structures absorb heat from the sun. Roy Spencer, a climatologist at the University of Alabama and former IPCC alumnus, charged in 2013 that the NOAA was “warming up” readings at rural temperature stations to match the urban ones rather than the reverse. A spokesman for the NOAA responded but stopped short of denying it.

    In the 2009 “climategate scandal”, e-mails and documents from IPCC-affiliated scientists were leaked that indicated they had manipulated data and reports to jibe with the AGW theory. References were made to “hiding the decline” through the use of “tricks”. Then in 2012 Anthony Watts, a meteorologist and self-described whistle-blower, caught the NOAA changing temperature data from the 1930s to make the decade appear colder than it had been. Another whistle-blower, blogger Tony Heller, although clearly aligned with conservative groups like the Heartland Institute, has amassed impressive data. He claims that, since 1997, the world has actually been getting colder and Goddard and the NOAA are committing “climate fraud”. The NOAA has declined to respond.

    Global cooling?

    Around 2000, the PDO Index started to blow cold again, possibly causing global warming to “pause”, as the mainstream scientists describe it. IPCC-affiliated scientists as well as Nasa and the NOAA attribute the pause to other factors. This is when the plot thickens.

    Solar cycle 24 – two cycles prior the cycle that’s expected to bottom out into a Maunder Minimum – was weak. In 2013-14 it reached its maximum far below average. Meanwhile extreme cold-weather anomalies have occurred around the world. Last year “polar vortices” slammed into the central US and Siberia as a third hovered over the Atlantic. All 50 US states, including Hawaii, had temperatures below freezing for the first time in recorded history. Snowfall records were broken in cities in the US, Canada, Italy, New Zealand, Australia, Japan and elsewhere. Southern American states and central Mexico, where snow is rare, got heavy snow, as did the Middle East.

    This past summer the cold didn’t let up, with more temperature records across the US and rare summer snows seen in Canada, the US and China. Birds have migrated early in the last two years. Antarctic sea ice set a new record in 2013 and it was broken again in 2014.

    Not even Thailand was immune. In 2014 Bangkok hit its coldest low in 30 years, while 63 lives were lost in the North.

    Scientists at the Climate and Environmental Physics and Oeschger Centre for Climate Change Research at the University of Berne in Switzerland have recently backed up theories that support the sun’s importance in determining the climate on Earth. A paper published last year by the American Meteorological Society contradicts claims by IPCC scientists that the sun couldn’t be responsible for major shifts in climate. Judith Curry, chair of the School of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology, rejected IPCC assertions that solar variations don’t matter. Among the many studies and authorities she cited was the National Research Council’s recent report “The Effects of Solar Variability on Earth’s Climate”.

    Other researchers and organisations are also predicting global cooling – the Russian Academy of Science, the Astronomical Institute of the Slovak Academy of Scientists, the Institute of Terrestrial Magnetism Russia, Victor Manuel Velesco Herrera at the National University of Mexico, the Bulgarian Institute of Astronomy, Dr Tim Patterson at Carleton University in Canada, Drs Lin Zhen at Nanjing University in China, just to name a few.

    For now nevertheless, the IPCC and other authoritative agencies are sticking to their CO2-dominant climate-forcing theory. They attribute the cold spells to a disruption in the jet stream caused by Anthropogenic Global Warming. Some of their theories have heads being scratched, for instance the “pause” in global warming they attribute to heat being absorbed deep into the oceans. When Antarctic ice reached record levels in 2013, scientists were “baffled” because the water beneath the ice was warm, they claimed. In climate science old and new, nothing is certain.

    We conclude with a bit of good news, though. Recent research has determined that the famous Stradivarius violin owes its unique, esteemed sound to the last Maunder Minimum. The solar condition changed the texture of the trees that provided the wood from which the instrument was crafted. So lovers of classical music can place their orders for the next generation of incomparable violins, coming – giving the trees time to mature – in about 100 years.

  • Don

    OK, take all the US officials credentials, move your junk out of the US and take all your slime with you and move it all to Russia or China.

  • 1tymtrvlr

    This further proves that naziism and commieism are still alive and well, and that those that want to demonize, demean, and destroy others that do not believe in their useless religion of gaia will go to any length to foist their brain phucked beliefs on the world. At the end of the day, it is all about money, paying for the big LIE. What are the commies going to do, throw money at the problem? We have seen how well that works with inner city programs, trillions of dollars pizzed down the drain, and nothing changed, it just got worse. The left has not figured it out yet, they have run out of everyone else’s money.

  • Tom

    We should shut down the UN to save on hot air being released into the ozone.

  • ounceoflogic

    Whatever the issue, Liberals “argue” their case by ridiculing and discrediting anyone who dares hold an opposing view. In this case they plan eliminate dissenting scientific opinion by declaring that the dissenters are not scientists. Life is very simple on the Liberal side.

  • Obama Loves ISIS

    GW is the religion of the demon possessed.

  • Mara Massey

    I’ve got an idea…why don’t we just revoke the credentials of the UN and send them all home. That useless organization is like a flee bite on the a$$ of the world.

  • From. Dan Hesko

    That this agenda is based on deception is clear to all right thinking people. The issue is not climate change, it’s population control. It’s always been about population control, this is a smoke screen to get to real goal, population control.
    There is no greater tyranny than liberalism

  • Vasco DeGama

    don’t you wish EVERYONE could be as open minded, inclusive, non-aggressive, diverse, free speech defenders, and all around MORE BITCHEN like AGW libtards?…

  • Obama Loves ISIS

    It looks like global warming is going to be a tenant of the anti-christ’s one world religion.

    • Jim Foles

      and refugees running all over the globe will only make sense for the sheeple to install a bio-chip in their arse’s

  • phil

    In the US, these same idiots will claim the right to free speech when you challenge them!
    Hypocrites!

  • Jjj1965

    The Obama has but one priority, changing the worlds weather.

  • dareisay

    The UN needs kicked to the curb, along with the WTO, IMF, DAVOS, G-this ‘n that, etc!

    All of them in their social engineering and plotting out Country’s economies have royally messed up the while world. Who is getting rich off this?

  • rambo jones

    Leave it to a typical liberal green party idiot to try and silence an opposing opinion. Liberals and the mouth breathing, brain dead “Green party” truly do have massive mental disorders.

  • Bill

    Climate change is scam.

    Liberalism is a mental illness.

    No wonder the liberals all buy into the scam that is called climate change.

  • Bill

    They can’t even predict todays weather.

    Yesterday they said 0% change of rain and I went outside and it was raining.

  • Vasco DeGama

    CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL! CLIMATE IS REAL! CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL! ALLAHU ALGORE!…..

  • Big George

    We fought Nazis once before, we’re not afraid of them anymore.

  • Wild Hog

    The only people with targets on their backs in this scheme is the US tax payer.

  • David Gosselin

    This is how you win a fight that you can’t win, you get your opposition removed from the field by someone else. The Left can’t handle intellectual opposition so they have to have that opposition silenced. When they can’t do that, they resort to insults.

  • GlobulWarmingIsFake

    Co-Founder of The Weather Channel: GLOBAL WARMING IS A COMPLETE HOAX

  • TastesLikeEmu

    Sounds like the same bunch of ‘Enforcers’ as those that took action against Columbus, Galileo, and anyone else who declared the earth to be round and that it was not the center of our solar system.

    What makes the deniers such a threat? Big deal, there have been nay sayers against almost every scientific discovery. Why focus so much energy on those who deny that Climate Change is ‘Man Made’? Could it be that the Nay Sayers are so dangerous because they are correct and the only way to prevent the truth from going viral is to put a muzzle on those who would hamper the Social Engineering Agenda of those pushing ‘Man Made Climate Change’?

    Yes, there is ‘Climate Change’
    No, this is nothing new.
    Yes, the sun has a major impact on climate fluctuations.
    No, ‘Climate Change’ is NOT Man Made. The Earth’s Climate is a very dynamic system and is constantly in a state of flux. This is an eternal truth, just like gravity.

    If those declaring that ‘Climate Change’ is man made, understand the nuances of the ‘Energy Engines’ that drive ‘Climate Change’.
    And, if the science is beyond reproach.
    And, if they have absolute details about how the climate changes.

    Then, why have NONE of their predictions come true?

  • really_fed_up_taxpayer

    You need to look at the temperature map overlayed with the CO2 concentration map. Funny thing, the temperature changes BEFORE CO2 concentrations rise.

  • GlobulWarmingIsFake

    NWO: “global warming” to bring one world government

  • Leone

    So, the answer to the free speech of people you disagree with is to punish them and shut them up? Nice…Next stop…Auschwitz, eh?

  • Bill

    Nice delete my posts what a rag of a sight.

  • parabellum

    Dang! How disappointing, my UN credentials are being revoked. What will I do now?

  • Bob Hampton

    THIS is EXACTLY why most Americans do not believe the paid “science” of global warming. It smacks of Nazi and Soviet era science, and for what? Billions in taxes and re-allocation of wealth on a worldwide basis. Of course the UN is in favor… they stand to benefit enormously while American citizens foot the bill. This whole thing sucks, and Obama is a traitor to his adopted country.

  • Al Piltdown Gore

    Leftwing fascists just can’t help themselves. They are totalitarian to their corrupt, rotten cores.

  • ithakavi

    Only Kool-Aid drinkers need apply.

  • Bob Hampton

    Perhaps the climate is changing. Perhaps certain animal species are going extinct. Perhaps, if the “followers” just read their history and biology just a bit, they would find that climate and temperatures have been fluctuating for the millions, and maybe billions of years the earth has existed. Animal species are created and go extinct with or without the existence of man on the planet. Wake up, people, and look at how you are being manipulated by an evil elite.

    • Miagogo

      They don’t care. They just don’t want to be associated with those racist knuckledraggers on the right. That would be worse than maintaining the lie.

  • Miagogo

    Hey progressives, what exactly is “liberal” about this? Any who agree can no longer call themselves “liberals”.

    • Al Piltdown Gore

      They haven’t been “liberal” — classical definition — for decades. They are totalitarian.

      • Miagogo

        Oh I know, I just like to point it out to all those who continue to think they’re liberals.

        • Al Piltdown Gore

          And I knew you knew that. :-)

    • parabellum

      The liberalism lies in the requirement that you pay your money to finance their little games.

  • Cajun Exile

    The Church of Climatology punishes apostates with extreme prejudice…

    • Jed

      They do, and in fact have done their best to eliminate any and all descent. Fabricating data alone does not a myth preserve.

    • Shep
      • Cajun Exile

        Indeed!

    • TexasStomp

      If the gov’t wants to “punish” climate change “deniers” they will first have to “profile” people according to their beliefs on climate change. So, to clarify, the gov’t that has spent the last 7+ years on a Romulan blood hunt for anyone who disparages anyone else on any basis of belief, labeling them “bigots” is advocating climate change bigotry and recommending such bigots be discriminated against in law and society?

      • Cajun Exile

        Correct. All Obama’s enemies are internal..the rest of the world is an ally or a distraction…

  • Jimmy Moron

    Agenda 2030

  • Chris Sky

    “Climate Change” the BILLIONS YEAR old cycle that takes the Earth from ICE ages to TROPICAL and back again… NATURALLY….

    but “give us your money” (Carbon tax) and give up all your private property rights… allow us to control how much you consume… and we will be able to CONTROL the Natural climate cycle. Honest…. and if you don’t give us all your money, freedom and property… we’re all going to die.

    Believe us… we’re telling the truth. Honest. But pay no attention to my private jet and 150 foot yacht. I’m doing this for the “Greater Good”

    • yellow__umbrella

      You zionist clown – all you need to do is go to China and you will understand. Zionist.

      • Liberty2Day

        so why is China not being pestered to change its ways?

        • yellow__umbrella

          It is, internally. It’s probably the greatest threat to social stability and by far the biggest worry to the government. Beijing just issued its first ‘red alert’, which effectively shut down the city because the pollution levels are so high. For years they denied it (they’d make awesome Republicans!), but now it’s becoming unbearable and people are tired of hearing excuses about ‘fog’, ‘summer high temperature records were incorrectly recorded in the past’, etc. Schools and many other public services are closed in Beijing until the red alert is lifted. It’s had a demonstrable effect on temperature highs, because the air is particulate and there’s a blanket to trap the heat.
          The irony (if there is any) is that China is leading the world in solar research and solar panel production. The US of course puts massive tariffs on them, by no small measure influenced by energy lobbyists. Why use clean solar when you can frack and salt the earth?

    • yellow__umbrella

      You Zionist moron, you make no sense, what’s your point anyway?

  • Ben Daho

    It’s hilarious how an organization as thoroughly discredited as the United Nations deems itself worthy to issue credentials to anyone other than a terrorist.

  • blancojoe

    The cockroaches always run rapidly from the light…screeching all the way, in this case.

  • Jim Foles

    There was a report of core samples from greenland showing layers of ice cover and green growth switching back and forth for tens of thousands of years. climate change? sounds like the sun and maybe volcanoes changing things up.

    • VR

      Ice core data from Greenland shows 800,000 years of constant temperature fluctuation with long periods of cold (ice ages) lasting 50-100,000 years, mixed in with short periods of warmth (10-20,000 years). Over that time period temps/sea level/ice cover are also constantly changing from warm trends to cold, rarely if ever constant and static. Temps/climate are driven by many complex factors including solar irradiance, Milankovitch cycles, Green House gases, oceanic currents, volcanic activity, wind patterns, etc. We currently live in the Holocene warmth period that started around 12,000 years ago when the last ice age ended and temps rose much more rapidly than anything we have seen in the 20th century. Warming and cooling of the planet has been cyclic since the beginning of time

  • MH27610

    The UN has no power. Move along.

  • Doc Lemm

    The UN is nothing but UNelected shills pretending to rule on behalf of the elite. Deny the UN and live free.

  • potus/PATHETIC

    The UN is powerless…pawns paid for by the corrupt, self anointed elite!

    • Jim Foles

      wait till Obama is leader of the UN

      • Al Piltdown Gore

        You mean he’s not?

        • Jim Foles

          he is still destroying us for 400+ more days

          • Al Piltdown Gore

            So he’s moonlighting, since that’s also the job of the head of the UN.

  • Liberty2Day

    One reason they have failed, they forgot to stop teaching the scientific method to schoolchildren.

    forcing thoughts by threat and the scientific method are polar opposites.

  • Bayrider

    It’s either a sickness or a huge money making investment, depending on if you are part of the con artists who are pushing it or the stupid sheep who believe it. Scientists use models not actual temps, in case you are one of the sheep who are reading this and still believe. They put in their own numbers to show the lie.

    I look at the global warming idiots much like the Jews during WWII, they were told they were going to somewhere wonderful, they lined up and got on the cattle cars and went to their execution, the whole time believing the liars.

    If you are a college student, there is a reason you are in school…You are an idiot and need to learn, so quit acting like you know anything, because you don’t know sh!t.

  • Liberty2Day

    something that I read yesterday that appalled me, in their models they treat the sun’s output as a CONSTANT.

    wow, and they dare to call others stupid.

  • Shawn Brown

    The New Heresy and burning at the stake…

  • steamboat

    The Global Hoaxing Deniers are back at it. Shut up debate is the way of the left.

  • Hawk

    WE WILL NOT BELIEVE YOUR LIES! ARREST ME! THROW ME IN JAIL! IT WILL NOT TURN YOUR LIES INTO TRUTH!

    97% of those scientist BTW are PAID with government grants! The non-government financed scientist are already demonstrating the flaws in their models.

  • Liberty2Day

    the more you scratch the hoax, the more lies fall out — it is astonishing what the machine thought they could force past humanity.

  • phil

    This is an all out, no holds barred effort to extort money from the US and put it in the corrupt hands of the un thugs and imbeciles to do with as they see fit.

  • Liberty2Day

    marxstream media admitted the other day that big oil is in favor of this hoax — of course… they are richest, they want to monopolize carbon credits, thus the world.

    • Native New Yorker

      They also want to destroy the coal industry!

    • Wild Hog

      Large corporations have always been for, and even help draft regulations that they can easily afford themselves, as long as it crushes their competition. That is why neither party is for small business.

  • Wild Hog

    Wake up people. This is what an invasion looks like today. Not troops parachuting from the sky and landing on beaches. That comes after the conquer.

    • Liberty2Day

      this is a new form of warfare, but I think most people have not figured it out yet.

      • Wild Hog

        They haven’t. Just like the invasion disguised as a refugee situation is also a new kind of warfare.

      • CheezeNBuiscuits

        Hey, if fear and submission can just as easily be achieved with guilt and scary monsters vs. bullets and shells, may as well go the cheaper route. Fewer losses for the conquerer and it makes suicide much more palatable for the conquered. Of course, comfort, leisure, and safety go a long way to help – fertile ground for sowing the seeds of guilt, and a full belly, sports on tv, 3 or 4 new cars, and clean clothes make physical exertion and risk taking rather unsavory.

        But don’t take my word for it, just ask a Roman. … Any Romans want to chime in here? … None? … What? They’re all gone? … Well, how did THAT happen?

  • Liberty2Day

    China and India worst polluters of all, so why the focus on RICH America?

    • Wild Hog

      Because it is about ceasing assets and other people’s money and nothing to do at all with climate.

  • Dr_Chambers

    The climate “scientists” can’t agree whether or not use Fahrenheit or Celsius as their scale to measure temperature. English or Metric, tomato tomawtow, lets call the whole thing off.

  • Humility

    This climate denier is calling for ejecting the UN from this country. I, for one, am tired of the UN using our country for a piggy bank and security blanket. When they have our money and have extinguished whatever they deem a threat, they want us out of sight because having a guard dog is embarrassing to them.

  • Sincerita1

    Threatening sanctions or punishment is a most compelling reason to be skeptical.

    • Wild Hog

      It should make everyone’s skin crawl.

      • Liberty2Day

        that pretty much happens whenever I go onto a new site these days.

        • Wild Hog

          So true. Sometimes I force myself to stay of the sites, watch old movies and not the news, and stay out of a Walmart, for at least a month just to de-tox.

          • Liberty2Day

            walmart, LOL

            most frightening of all

  • Native New Yorker

    The UN needs to be dismantled. A purely leftist, liberal agenda, out to screw the real world and create world socialism.

    Climate change is the greatest fraud know to mankind, and the most harmful. Every CREDIBLE SCIENTIST will tell you it is total BS and lies.

    This world has been changing for millions of years. We are now entering an ice age….what are they going to say about that? Cook the number some more???

  • Bernice Sanderss

    Maybe reality will strike, and ISIS will shoot-up the UN talks.

    • Liberty2Day

      why would they do that to their boss?

  • Aleric

    As if the UN has any real power other than the ability to take money from countries and spend it with out results or concern.

  • Hank Wilson

    You “climate change” fools are the biggest a holes on the planet. The climate has always changed and always will. Get a grip and stop supporting Al Gore”s profits on corn.
    Look it up. He profits from your stupidity.

    • Wild Hog

      These fools are tree hugging anti-capitalists who are easily used as pawns by crony capitalists.

  • Liberty2Day

    climate changes all the time, naturally. Indeed, the ONLY constant IS change.

  • Bill Boinkr

    There is no pressure from regular people, what a load of crap!

  • Sierra Bravo

    These GW activists need to be killed by ISIS

  • Midwestmike

    I think the time has come for the UN to find a new address. Say, Paris, Rome, Peking, Tehran, Riyadh or anywhere else but here. Give them 2 years notice to move. End of story.

    • Liberty2Day

      give them 48 hours to vacate, like the mongrels that they are.

    • No One Important

      Have them move to Raqqua. . . .(mean grin)France has a scheduled air bombing run in 4. . ..3. . . .2. . . .1. . . . .

  • 1911

    The global warming crowd is proof that the universe is testing our capacity for intelligence by creating bigger and bigger idiots. Right now, the universe seems to be winning!

  • DD Boyle

    Get ready apocalypse-now-climate-change-hook-line-and-sinkers, Climate Hustle is coming to a theatre near you!! (After airing at the invitation only Red Carpet treatment it gets tonight in Paris :)

  • SoCalMike

    Climate infidels will be rounded up for reeducation.
    If that isn’t successful, then we shall liquidate them.

  • Ram6

    How can this be a surprise to anyone. Leftist the world over never engage in a reasoned debate or accept their opposition might very well have legitimate opinions and facts to be considered. Instead they immediately call for anyone who disagrees with them to either shut up, or be shut up as they are now doing demanding that the U.N. revoke the credentials of any members who are in opposition to the “climate change” scam.

    These people are straight out of Orwell’s “1984” or Huxley’s “Brave New World”. They typify Orwell’s pigs in “Animal Farm” in that “all animals are equal but some are more equal than others”. Consequently if you agree with the lefty liberals you are equal, but if you disagree you are less equal and your view has no merit. I say to all of them one of their icons, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, had it exactly right “Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts.” Even he would be cast out by these fanatics.

  • SoCalMike

    These climate dirt bags are parasites and cannibals lusting after the easy money and the power to control everyone in the name of fighting climate change.
    If we just paid them to rain dance, that wouldn’t be as bad as creating a new bureaucracy even more destructive and punitive that the EPA.

  • Liberty2Day

    imagine, TOTAL control, of body, mind, soul — ability to decide who lives and who dies, the position of being the secular living gods.

    the elites have been gunning for this for eons, this climate hoax is just the latest salvo, the latest step in a thousands of years long process against humanity.

    • sgthwjack

      “The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.” H. L. Mencken

      • Liberty2Day

        Mencken, one of my favorites. About as sharp a tack as has ever existed.

  • ah.1960

    So are these activists issuing a fatwa against so-called “deniers”?

    Is there science really that weak that they can tolerate no opposition or even questions?

    • sgthwjack

      Yes.

  • pbtruth

    They are finding out that there scam is so weak that they now need to shut down any opposition because they are getting big holes shot into the middle of their climate warming, cooling, change or what ever these crooks and con men are calling their swindle now. If the people that show the intelligence to know this scam is a scam hold on a little while longer we may be able to save Americans billions in graft by foreigners and even our own hate America left wing con men from stealing from Americans.

    You only try to shut down the opposition when it becomes obviously to you that your theise is to weak to stand scritiny

  • Al Terego

    NO ONE has EVER “denied climate”.

    These people are not only liars, but it is TYPICAL progressive tactic to simply deny the “credibility” of anyone who disagrees.

    Science does NOT censor dissenting opinions. And anyone who demands other opinions be silenced is clearly not able to defend their own views with FACTS.

  • RealAmerican

    Our cult demand you worship the way we do. We cannot win the argument. so we will shut you up the old fashioned way. Through intimidation, crminalization, and censorship. Just like satlin, mao, and pol pot. Climate! climate! climate! /looney tree hugging frog licking leftist

  • dallasite

    Amazes me that the ozone hole over Antarctica was first measured well before the Industrial Revolution. It’s a fact that warmer temperatures in the tropicsphere cause cooler temperatures in the stratosphere, so if the ground temperature warms it means that less ozone will be destroyed in the stratosphere resulting in the ozone blocking more UV light which causes less heat on earth. Seems like a well thought out plan by God to balance our eco system. Count me as a denier.

  • potus/PATHETIC

    I say we go get the climate tards for false propaganda!!

  • Square Cloud

    If anyone comes to your door with a “narrative”, don’t let them in.

    • No One Important

      Occasionally, I get these nutters at my door with this hysteria. So when they knock – I point to a tree in my yard:——————
      See that tree over there? It’s called a “Dawn Redwood.” Yea, it’s a metasequoia. Believed to be the great great grand daddy of the Giant Sequoias and California redwoods. It’s known as a living fossil, thought to be extinct until they were discovered growing in China in the 40s.There are fossilized remains of that tree growing in the ancient polar forests 250 million years ago from the Mesozoic era.So unless you can dig up a fossilized SUV or show me a cave painting of a Hummer, you better come up with an explanation of why that tree was growing 250 million years ago in forests at the poles of the earth.
      ——————More than a few times I’ve sent them away scratching their heads as they walk past that pine tree. . . . .staring at living proof against their argument. . . .Go get one and plant it. They’re only about $30.00, fast growing and a great living argument against the nonsense that they’re teaching these people.

  • zonable

    “Bader said interfaith leaders recently
    handed top United Nations negotiators a petition with 1.8 million
    signatures begging for meaningful climate action.”

    Liberal apologists claiming to be interfaith leaders are merely closeted secularists who have infiltrated the Christian ranks.

    • No One Important

      1.8 million signatures. . . .7.21 billion people on the planet. .. .What’s the math on that?Should I ask them to do it? (sarcastic grin)

  • Bill the Cat

    When you can’t counter facts and logic, all you can do is pound the table and demand the people making short shrift of your argument be silenced.

    That’s the long, ugly history of Socialism.

    • Southern_Cross

      Ack!

      THBBFT!!

      • Bill the Cat

        (HACK, HACKHACK, HACK….gackkkkkkk SPLATTTTTTT)

        :)

  • Robert Miller

    Can you name just one other scientific inquiry that demands that those that find fault be ‘de-certified’ or prosecuted? The mere fact that these little Hitlers would propose such should send a shudder of fear among the scientific community as well as anybody else who champions freedom of inquiry and research.
    This is more and more resembling a religious movement and not a science based movement. Prosecution of the non-believers has no place in the free pursuit of the truth. Whether you believe in the global warming agenda or not, all free people should be alarmed and concerned about such talk.

  • potus/PATHETIC

    Lets go GET socialists and progressives!!!

  • frodo

    In America, we have free speech. In America, the UN has no authority. Americans are going to get tired of this sh!t, pretty soon.

  • Southern_Cross

    LOL.

    The climate moonies… Finally showing their religion for what it is.

  • CharlieTX

    So whatever happened to free speech and the open interchange of ideas? Oh yeah, Obama got involved and immediately those came under attack.

  • RealAmerican

    Typical leftists. We lost, so lets bully the winners and lie to say we won.

  • https://youtu.be/cPaX3RahUqQ The Professor

    One of those true believers must be ready for this challenge. Know anyone up for it?

    Nov 29, 2015 Take the $100,000 Global Warming Believer Challenge!

    Do you believe in the catastrophic anthropogenic global warming hypothesis? Want to help the IPCC with an embarrassing little statistical problem in their latest report? Want to win $100,000? Today James introduces you to Douglas J. Keenan’s $100,000 contest to identify trend-driven time series. Details are in the show notes. Good luck!

    https://youtu.be/hKl2ksAERS0

  • Robert Muir

    I have a idea.How about we kick the UN out of the country and stop giving them money.

    • Jack Coyote

      All the money wasted on climate change and the UN could feed, clothe, house, and give sanitation facilities to millions of people world wide.

  • Jack Coyote

    Climate change is a ho-ho-hoax. Merry Christmas!

  • Cal_Grimalkin

    Man caused climate change deniers are the “apostates” of the church of liberal theology, and must be, according to the true believers must be stoned.

  • Abe

    CO2 vs. Temperature in one graph:

    • No One Important

      So, is someone going to show me a cave painting of a Hummer or find a fossilized SUV to prove why the CO 2 levels were so much higher back then?I’m pretty sure GM wasn’t around back then crankin’ out the Suburbans. . . .

  • Douglas Weiss

    ALL YOU HAVE TO DO is look up the Vladivostok Ice Core Samples. The earth has gone through many warming and cooling trends. Hell Spring could be called global warming. There was also a time when the earth’s atmosphere wasn’t breathable for humans. If you really study the data you will see the sun will soon be going back into a restive state that means expect a cooling trend like Little Ice Age 1600-1830. Wow you mean after 1830 there was global warming???? And that was before the industrial revolution, coal fired power plants and V-8 gas guzzlers???? GLOBAL WARMING or Climate Change is the biggest scam ever perpetrated on the human race. When the left gets desperate enough to use the Catholic Church they are in a panic state. What happened to the left’s mantra of ‘separation of church and state’ OMG blasphemy, the left now believes in religion????

    • Liberty2Day

      the left believes in nothing, save for using ANY means to achieve total power.

  • Jack Apple

    Climate change proclamations are a hoax on the world. See if the proponents still support climate change dictates, if the levying of taxes are not part of it. It’s all about taxing those that who have resources.

  • eyes_open46

    Climate change is a religion. It’s become more clear all the time.

  • greatmag

    The observed data is against them so the greens resort to infiltrate religion and fascism.

  • Steve Smith

    This is nothing but pure Fascism, Hitler would be proud of these “Climate Fascists”.

  • Marcus Antonius

    Get the US out of the UN, NOW!!!! Get the UN out of the US, NOW !!!!

  • Mark Robert Jones

    This is the planets largest Ponzi scheme. These people can barely predict the weather with any real accuracy, yet expect us to believe that they can control Mother Nature through TAXES. It’s all a SCAM…

  • CASteinman

    Morano looks like DeNiro.

  • Rick Joseph

    The “Believers” increasingly reveal that Global Warming is a ReligiouScience and has nothing to do with real science. It is now clear to what Obama referred when stating “Climate Change is the biggest threat we face”. He wasn’t referring to Climate Change itself but those who believe in it, as there is very little difference between them and the Fascists who proceeded them.

  • Black Tongue

    For science to be true and pure, we have to sequester anyone with a counter argument. Everyone knows that.

  • robert stuart

    If you cannot convince people using the merits of your position — threaten them with jail or professional destruction. Sounds a whole lot like every authoritarian person and organization since the beginning of time.

  • Black Tongue

    Global warming had gone from science to cult to full blown religion. The followers are insane to the point that they want non believers to be persecuted and professionally muck racked. Talk about a lack of morality.

  • Dschwarpa

    When these “global scientists” refuse to let other people see their raw data or duplicate their results along with their assumptions then they deserve the ridicule and criticism they receive. It is not settled science by any means. We also get to call it out when they cheat to get their results. When “normalizing” numbers means that the temps always go up then that alone tells you something. Don’t do it behind closed doors and have some independents critic the work as well. There are many shortfalls and places here one reading covers thousands of square miles.

    • No One Important

      Don’t forget, those arrogant hacks destroyed the original data sets.Geeeeee, can someone explain to me how they got away with destroying original data when it wasn’t theirs?The taxpayers paid for it. . . .

  • sammy4231

    They already have a no-fly list without any judge’s order.
    They want to use it to remove the right to bear arms.
    How soon will they take the obvious step on removing speech?

    That way, skeptics can’t attend conferences, write books, or make movies. Fascism complete.

  • coldything

    Shouldn’t the credentials of those who have changed data and lied be revoked !!

  • jrg dds

    “Man Made Climate Change” proponents sound like medieval Christian inquisitors
    or
    modern day Muslim extremists attempting to make apostates and heretics
    recant their views. Robert Kenner, a British documentary producer,
    believes ‘global warming’ skeptics should be banned from television.
    Some academics have proposed using RICO laws against those they disagree
    with, and one Zealot, Professor Lawrence Torcello, at the Rochester
    Institute of Technology even recommended imprisonment for those who did
    not subscribe to “Man Made Climate Change”.

    Legitimate scientists
    try like hell to disprove their own hypothesis, and when they cannot,
    they release their information to the public and invite others to try.
    Over time, a hypothesis is conditionally accepted as a fact. But that
    fact is subject to be superseded when the process is repeated with
    another hypothesis that better explains the data.

    It is a matter
    of record that “Man Made Climate Change” “scientists” hid data,
    suppressed data that contradicted them, shoehorned the data into a
    predetermined result, and where necessary, they out and out falsified
    their data. Like the proponents of the Aristotelian Universe that kept
    adding epicycle after epicycle to square the theory with observed
    planetary orbits, Climate Change scientists add magnifying feedback
    loops into their computer models to get the predetermined correlation
    between CO₂ and temperature change that they are after.

    In addition, “Man Made Climate Change” advocates love to parrot Al Gore and claim,
    “The science is settled and the debate is over”. Anyone with even a
    rudimentary knowledge of the Scientific Method knows that there is no
    such thing as settled science, scientific debate on a subject is never
    over.

    “Man Made Climate Change” proponents would have you believe
    CO₂ is a poison and treat it as such when it is actually a vital part
    in the Oxygen-Carbon dioxide cycle and necessary for life. To “Man Made
    Climate Change” advocates every variation in weather patterns is proof
    of their Hypothesis correctness:

    Too hot? The activity of men releasing CO₂ caused it.

    Too cold? The activity of men releasing CO₂ caused it.

    It rained this year before the rains usually begin? The activity of men releasing CO₂ caused it.

    There was less snow this year? The activity of men releasing CO₂ caused it.

    The Earth’s Temperature hasn’t risen in 18 years? The heat is hiding in the oceans!

    It
    has even been seriously asserted that “Man Made Climate Change” is
    responsible for ISIS marauding across the Middle East and Redheads
    becoming endangered of going extinct in Scotland, as well as hundreds of
    other absurdities

    ( http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm ) supposed to be the result of an increase in temperature of 0.006 deg C per year over the last century or so.

    When was the last time anyone saw a scientific or popular article by a “Man Made Climate Change” proponent that attributes a climate deviation to normal
    variation and nothing more? You haven’t, and you won’t.When something
    is said to be the cause of everything, the hypothesis cannot be
    falsified. To qualify as a valid science, a hypothesis must be
    falsifiable, at least in principle. Falsification is impossible with
    the”Man Made Climate Change”.

    Another fallacious argument made by
    “Man Made Climate Change” proponents is the Idea that consensus somehow
    confers validity to their hypothesis. Consensus is a useful tool in
    Political Science. Playing on Consensus views produces victories and power
    for politicians, but it is absolutely meaningless regarding the
    scientific method and in establishing facts in the physical sciences.

    Some
    of the greatest scientists in history were great precisely because they
    went against the prevailing consensus. The honest and accurate
    explanation of facts are all that matter in science. It does not occur
    to anyone to say, “The consensus of X thousands of astronomers is that
    the moon is 238,900 miles from the Earth.” No one says “The consensus of
    X thousands physicists is that the frequency of the color blue is
    between 606 THz and 668 THz.” These are well tested and long established facts.
    (And still, this and all accepted scientific facts are subject to a
    more precise description should a better theory come along.)

    Consensus is heavily relied upon in the physical sciences only when experimental support
    for a hypothesis is weak. Consensus is used in politics, and the one
    true thing about “Man Made Climate Change” is that the left uses it to
    accomplish their political ends. If it is science, it is not consensus,
    if it is consensus it is not science. Period.An agenda is being
    sold by politicians, and profit being is being made by those that go
    along with it. “Low carbon” slogans and logos are slapped on all manner
    of commercial items to increase sales and keep the “Man Made Climate
    Change” inquisition off their back.

    Galileo, Newton, and Einstein, weren’t selling anything. They didn’t need logos.

    “Man
    Made Climate Change” proponents are entitled to believe in whatever
    that they wish. But not unlike members of a religion, their belief is
    based on faith. The hypothesis of “Man Made Climate Change” is not
    science.

    • JBSPuddintane

      Why do these heresies gain so many adherents?
      Why do so many drink the Kool-Aid?
      Maybe they are so desperate to believe in something, anything.

  • No One Important

    I say – we put together a comprehensive list of the “fascists” in the UN promoting this type of behavior, and do a “push” to have the “fascists’ ” credentials removed.Contact them and tell them – “fascists” are not welcome at the UN on the taxpayers’ dollar here in the USA.I bet if they heard from a few 100,000 Americans – they’d get the picture real quick. . . .

  • OH SNAP

    These hustling liars need to be jailed, they rather settle an issue without a debate than debate it and be proven liars. The UN is made up of arrogant dictators, want to be dictators and tyrants.

  • No One Important

    Go to their website:http://www.un.org/en/contact-us/index.htmlBe polite, but factual – let them know what you think about the UN and this fascist behavior.

  • KCEddie

    The UN meeting would go something like this ? Where are the prostitutes ? LMFAO

  • Kala

    Please kick the US out of the UN please, please please.

  • Freeland_Dave

    What I found interesting in another article on this subject is the UN turning to the churches to spread their lies about global warming. First of all, these ‘scientists’ if you can honestly call them scientists, they don’t even pretend to follow the rules of the scientific principal. have spent their lives denying that God exists and now they are turning to people of faith to support their crackpot ideals? Really? Well listen up., I follow God and what He teaches, not man and what man invents and teaches as truth. These are the same type of people who have infiltrated the churches and, with the aid of some church leaders, have changed to will of God to the will of man and marginalized God completely out of the picture. You can believe man if you desire but as for me I will believe in and follow God and that doesn’t mean caving into the new religion of made global climate change which is the real issue regardless of what else they call it. In their view mankind is at fault for our climate and that most definitely is not true and if it were there isn’t anything that man can do about it anyway.and it will take God to fix the problem one way or another assuming there really is a problem. So I am a self avowed man made global climate change denier. Will you abridge my First Amendment Constitutional Right of Free Speech to stop me from denying man made global climate change?

    • No One Important

      And just imagine – how many scientists out there have theories that they’d love to have debated in their areas of expertise – instead, they’ve lost out to the mother of all global money scams. . . .”climate change.”

  • https://youtu.be/cPaX3RahUqQ The Professor

    How do we get this done?
    Dec 7, 2015 What Is The Average Global Temperature?
    The average global temperature is…impossible to measure and harder to calculate than you might think. While GISS and RSS and UAH and GHCN might be a confusing jumble of letters to most people, there are people pushing for global taxes, global courts and individual carbon budgets based on these data sets. So let’s roll up our sleeves and take a look at the concept of “average global temperature.”

    https://youtu.be/eL-HyviLy6c

    SHOW NOTES: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=17190

    • No One Important

      Even worse – these AGW nutters can’t tell you what the temperature is “supposed” to be. . . Want to hear something even scarier?These whack-jobs want to emulate the eruption effects of a volcano!They’re so convinced warming is happening (even though there’s no evidence that it is). .they want to deliberately “create” the conditions of a Mt Pinatubo eruption. . . .by “salting” the upper atmosphere/troposphere with sulfur. . . .Wowwwwwwwwww man. . talk about wanting to put all of mankind at risk because of their “belief” system. . .

      • https://youtu.be/cPaX3RahUqQ The Professor

        This why I share these two links with them! Nov 29, 2015 Take the $100,000 Global Warming Believer Challenge!

        Do you believe in the catastrophic anthropogenic global warming hypothesis? Want to help the IPCC with an embarrassing little statistical problem in their latest report? Want to win $100,000? Today James introduces you to Douglas J. Keenan’s $100,000 contest to identify trend-driven time series. Details are in the show notes. Good luck!

        https://youtu.be/hKl2ksAERS0

        Nov 5, 2015 MELTDOWN MYTH: Antarctic ice growing is just the first ‘EVIDENCE’ global warming is ‘NOT REAL’

        Antarctica is growing not shrinking, the latest satellite records show. You might think this would be great news for all those scientists who have been warning us over the last few years about the impending horrors of “man-made global warming” but in fact they are not happy about it, not one bit.

        http://www.express.co.uk/news/nature/617144/Antarctica-not-shrinking-growing-ice-caps-melting

  • No One Important

    I say – someone compile a list of the email addresses for these fascists, and distribute it for everyone to contact – and let them know we think “fascists” should have credentials removed, and they should be removed from the USA since they’re here on our dime/nation/property.Might be quite eye opening to hear from several thousand Americans and what we think of them.Go to this page:http://www.un.org/en/contact-us/index.htmlDon't be filthy, but tell them factually what you think about the UN and their nonsense “climate change” agenda. . . .

  • Mark Lindsey

    Not surprised. They CANNOT refute the claims of the skeptics because they have only the tampered with and altered data, and they can’t explain why NONE of the climate models work, and NASA and NOAA have both had data altered by Obama political appointees. the UN has become the MOST worthless, expensive political experiment in the last 100 years. Time to call it quits on that corrupt entity.
    Imaging trying to keep ANY discussion from happening, because it might get some world leaders in trouble for being in on this scam.

    • No One Important

      The UN has to go the way of the “League of Nations”. . .time to shutter the doors and send all the whackos back home to their garbage hole nations.

  • Bruce in AZ

    We will soon see Loretta Lynch threatening global warming debunkers who veil their intentions with rhetoric with federal action.

  • Ben Daho

    Excellent discourse on climate change by someone who is probably a big lib:

    https://www.prageru.com/courses/environmental-science/what-they-havent-told-you-about-climate-change#.Vc4sj_lViko – sorry, disqus is apparently not posting the entire url. The discourse is entitled What They Haven’t Told You About Climate Change, and it was done by one of the founders of Greenpeace. Should be easy to find and it’s very concise.

  • TxPatriot53

    Nobody in the UN has any credentials at all other than ‘The Badge of the Fool and Liar”. Climate change is a joke, just like the UN.

  • Skepticalreason

    Okay, the two main CO2 offenders are coal power plants and autos. Simple solution. USA has an immense amount of natural gas. Convert coal plants to natural gas as well as autos. With an over abundance of clean burning natural gas, why are we using gasoline? (I don’t work in the gas industry at all).

    • No One Important

      Obama doesn’t want fracking either.This isn’t about the climate, or warming. . .this is about wealth redistribution.Make up something you can blame on advanced nations, then “take” from them, and give to other garbage hole nations.And, hold back those advanced nations by hammering their energy production which also hammers their economic advancement. .. .This never was, and never will be, about the climate.Otherwise, you wouldn’t see such distorted and fraudulent science being promoted and protected.Ask yourself this – why aren’t any of these hacks being prosecuted for taxpayer fraud?If you and I took hundreds of millions in taxpayer money, and produced a fraudulent study that said eating lawn clippings would help you live forever – don’t you think we’d be in prison by now?

  • Tricky Dick

    Climate change Fascists. Heil Climate Change…..morons!!!!

  • Defiant

    These Warmers are SUCH rubes…

  • cosmicwxdude

    This is getting dangerous. Violence, injury and death are all possible with these obnoxious zealots. Not from us, from them.

  • DWKeller

    And so Fascism comes to the UN, or is this Communism. Time for the US to leave.

  • 1mikejanz1

    Idiot liberals cannot stand facts, they will either change them or totally deny them!
    Global Climate change or what ever these morons are choosing to call it today it has been going on for thousands of years and there ain’t a damn thing that man is going to do to change it!
    It’s time to make these people responsible for the destruction they are causing the world with their bullshit climate change crap!
    They cause more damage to our environment that any other group out there!

  • Sam Imam- Eli

    Just more of the same from the fascist left. On any topic, the reason they must quash dissenting viewpoints is because their theories, beliefs, ideologies ALL FAIL on the merits. If such fascists allowed dissent, everything they support and believe in would be proven FALSE.

  • Femghazi

    Only those lying need to silence others for fear of the truth. The climate activists are the liars.

  • Ron

    Climate change is real! What isn’t real are those who think they can do something about it, that they have the power to overcome ‘mother nature’. FACT is mankind has nothing to do with climate change….Never has and never will.

  • http://www.solargeometry.com/ Solar)Geometry ۞

    The true nature of liberalism comes to the surface.

  • No One Important

    If your “science” cannot withstand debate – it’s not science – it’s only an opinion.If you deny other studies that refute your “science”. . .it’s now a religion.If you wish to silence and purge people who disagree with you – it’s now a cult.Definition of Cult:A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. A religious or social group with socially deviant or novel beliefs and practices.

  • David Anfinrud

    Global warming is a theory that only shows up in Computer Models. But in real life do not work. I guess science has been replaced by computer Models. Programmed to get a specific set of results no matter what data is put in.

  • VillageViking

    I can’t believe there are still people who believe the world is flat, the moon is made of cheese and the most unbelievable of all…that there is global warming. Idiots!

    • No One Important

      Yep – who are the science deniers now, huh?

    • http://www.solargeometry.com/ Solar)Geometry ۞

      The Earth is flat. Don’t be silly.

  • Al Terego

    We need to stop FUNDING this crap.

    The U.S. is the DUMBEST nation to ever inhabit this planet. That we PAY people to attack us and “rule over” us is so stupid it SHOULD be embarrassing.

  • robnbc

    NEWS FLASH! Fox News refutes evolution by showing pictures of Noah’s Arc — accuses Al Gore of a cover up – also finds evidence of grain in pyramids and advises Fox News fans not to vaccinate their children because Obama’s CDC is saying vaccines are safe. Also has rare footage of 1000s of Muslims dancing.

    • Pro_sanity

      What stunning to me is how little credit we give Al Gore for being way out in front of even the scientific community on this one. Way ahead. Oh well, what would you expect from the person who invented the internet!

      • No One Important

        Yea, the guy who plagiarizes movies, assaults women. . . .He sure is a wonderful “leader” for the left to follow. . .then again, they also like Bill Clinton, too. . .so that shouldn’t surprise me. . . .

    • robnbc

      No wonder Trump said he would run as a republican because they are so dumb they would believe anything he said. (Fox News 1998) :)

      • robnbc

        NEWS FLASH – Trump leads among the angry, old, white, southern, male dropout, gun nut demographic. (Fox News, 2015)

        • John

          He leads in the angry, young, white, northern, male college graduate, gun nut demographic too, so you should be afraid!

  • elHombre

    Excommunication by the CCC (Climate Change Cult). Be afraid. Be very afraid.

  • Afterheart

    No the title should read..”Climate deniers applying pressure to revoke the UN”

    • robnbc

      Trump “I will run as a republican because they will believe anything I tell them ” (Fox News, 1998)

      • Afterheart

        Sort of like killary saying” the Benghzi murders of Americans was the result of a Youtube video!”

        • robnbc

          wow- zinger!

  • BlownfuelCoupe

    Ah, ObamaCare, Climate Change, Michelle’s Hair,………..it’s all the same fraud.

  • PaoloRM

    Climate change is total Bu11 5hit, and everyone knows it! This charade is nothing but a means for a singular government to dictate and lord over us. Like Liberalism and islam, Climate change is a cult for the weak minded and easily fooled parasite.

    • robnbc

      Yet every scientific organization on the planet endorses the AGW view and the permafrost is melting, oceans are warming, rising and becoming acidic.

      • No One Important

        Really. . .every scientific organization?250 Paleoclimate studies show the LIA an MWP were global events, despite “professor” Mann declaring them only regional events. . you are aware of that, right?Just because they’re “historically inconvenient truths” for your models, doesn’t mean they didn’t happen.

        • Crude

          Go easy on the guy. Barry went to Paris and he didn’t.

  • BlownfuelCoupe

    No One ever warns us of the overwhelming destructive perils if the climate didn’t change.

  • robnbc

    NEWS FLASH – Fox News shows documentary refuting evolution with pictures of Noahs Ark and accuses Al Gore of a cover up. Also shows images of kids with autism, grain in pyramids and 1000s of Muslims dancing. Trump quoted ” I was right – republicans WILL believe anything I tell them.” (Fox News)

  • VA7

    GOOD! Now we can pull our tax dollars from this fraud group. I am DONE paying my hard earned money to a group that will come after me when I expose them as the frauds they are!

  • flyboy

    Here’s the problem: NOBODY denies that climate change exists. What *IS* being questioned is how much, IF ANY, of it is mankind induced. And as has been proven now, the 97% “consensus” is a flat out lie and fraud by the left who want nothing more than a modern version of the Nazi Party controlling and dictating and directing those who will line up to the left for enslavement to the death, and those who will line up on the right for a “shower.”

    • robnbc

      Read the comments below – climate denial is an article of faith because the Kochs paid 800 million for the Republican Party and now they OWN it.

      • Claude

        As owned as Barry and BP.

      • flyboy

        EAT IT!!!!!!!!

        “97% Study Falsely Classifies Scientists’ Papers, according to the scientists that published them”

        http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/05/97-study-falsely-classifies-scientists.html#Update2

      • No One Important

        Wohowwwwwwwwwwww man. . .the Koch brothers live in your head, rent free.What is it about the Koch brothers that scares liberals so much?Hmmm?

        • flyboy

          The little troglodyte already trotted out the Fox News Cart. So now that he has the old rusty Koch Bros. cart out, I wonder how long before the mouth breather trots out the brokeass Rush Limbaugh cart.

          Not that GEORGE SOROS isn’t spending millions on this junk science propaganda or anything….

        • robnbc

          Very simple – republicans can be bought so cheaply – Kochs contribute $800 million to GOP finances so candidates won’t talk about climate. – It means you have the best government that money can buy.

      • Verbotene Gedanken

        Relax brother, have a Koch and a Smile….

  • Crude

    Is this the same UN that was involved in that oil thing with Iraq?

    • robnbc

      Trump said that was Bush :)

      • Crude

        Kofi Annan, ROFL.

    • flyboy

      Yes.

  • AynRand

    Please, please, please revoke the US credentials. US out of the UN, UN out of the US!

  • Crude

    I hope those posters are biodegradable.

  • Russell Billedeaux

    It has been proven that NASA, NOAA, UN Climate Org. and several other world governmental climate agencies have changed temperature readings from the past to make it look like we have global warming. There is an agenda among the world elite that we have too many people on earth and we need a viable way to curtail the population. They believe that if we cut CO2 production enough, crops will fail, the ocean fish will die off because the plankton need CO2. And the elite believe then there will be a world wide famine that will reduce the world population to the numbers that they believe are sustainable for masters and slaves.

    • No One Important

      And the really sick/twisted part for them?Its the 3rd world he\holes that have huge birth rates.Every westernized nation across the planet has birthrates that are lower, due to education/knowledge/affluence.If people cannot afford to have children in westernized nations, they don’t.Mexico, African nations, etc, they just keep on having kids that suffer from hunger, lack of education, etc. . . .It won’t matter what westernized nations do. . . the 3rd world keeps birthing children into abject poverty and hunger, drinking water from mud puddles, eating dirt cookies. . . .

      • flyboy

        Exactly. And the Western cultural and economic suicide bombers of the left want these third world degenerates to take over Western society. The only difference between ISIS and the modern liberal Democrat left and Western civilization destruction is that one group is external and the other group is internal.

  • obamaisacorn

    The so called deniers have more empirical proof about their claims then the consensus scientist who’s only proof are the models they made for themselves.

  • flyboy

    RESULTS OF TWO WEEKS IN PARIS FOR JUNK SCIENCE TALKS!

    -300,000 tons of a carbon footprint (the same amount all of NYC uses in 5 days)
    -$1.8 million cost to US taxpayers (that could have fed a LOT OF HUNGRY CHILDREN)

  • Solidvoter

    Yep, shutting down the other part of the debate will really help. The earth is flat, people. 98% of the scientists say so (15th century). No further discussion is needed.

    • flyboy

      They don’t want a debate. They want dictatorship tyrannic control. Orwell nailed this idiocy that the modern left is hell bent on making happen a long time ago.

    • No One Important

      And that 97% number is a bogus number from the start.Their 97% figure has been debunked.10,257 people were invited to take an on-line survey, only 3,146 of them did. Only 79 of those were “published experts” and only 76 of those “experts” said yes. And it was based on 2 questions.Ever wonder why the AGW/GW nutters never use the “real” number? Is it because they’d be humiliated?Other researchers reviewed roughly 250 paleoclimate studies, concluding the Medieval Warm Period and Little Ice Age were both real and global, albeit with significant regional variations.How do these nutters explain that the “broader” scientific community of paleoclimatologists, do not accept their argument? Just because climate modelers cannot explain natural variability does not mean natural variability does not exist. They say they can see it clearly in the data.From 1997, more than 6000 boreholes supports the MWP very similar to the original pre 2001 IPCC viewpoint:Later, the fraudsters only used around 500 boreholes.There are 250 paleoclimate studies which refute the fraudster Mann’s “hockey stick” nonsense. . . .“Hide the decline! And that really big ship stuck in the ice!”

      • obamaisacorn

        These days consensus science only requires 50% +1 vote to deem it scientific fact. Why the 97% when either way, voting for scientific outcomes will have many waiting for the next vote.
        Science has come a long way under liberalism – hard to even recognize it.

  • No One Important

    If your “science” cannot withstand debate – it’s not science – it’s only an opinion.If you deny other studies that refute your “science”. . . .it’s now a religion.If you wish to silence and purge people who disagree with you – it’s now a cult.Definition of Cult:A religion or religious sect generally considered to be extremist or false, with its followers often living in an unconventional manner under the guidance of an authoritarian, charismatic leader. A religious or social group with socially deviant or novel beliefs and practices.

  • PaulB

    The left, including Climate Control Advocates, are the same group that disparages religion, but has created a religion of their own. It is ONLY faith that they are right that supports their views, and lack ANY kind of scientific concensus. Believe, or you are a heretic… how much more of a religion could it be with that attitude.

  • Crude

    Where’s the IPCC when we need them?!

  • flyboy

    Soros’ Media Splatters and the Huff & Puffpost need to send in better leftard trolls….just sayin’.

  • Barry O’brien

    Mark, no one has done more than you to expose this scam. I’m very
    grateful. But I would encourage you to call this what it is: It
    isn’t Climate Change, it’s Klimate Koo koo. Proponents aren’t
    mistakenly trying to “save the world”, they’re maliciously deceiving the
    public to create a tyrannical global government. The underlying motive
    isn’t benevolent, it’s heinous criminal treachery.

    • SevenofNine

      A more apt analogy might be the Klimate Klux Klan…same thought process, larger agenda…

  • Hank Smith

    MMGW is a bunch of Leftists & faux scientists playing a computer climate game to see who can scam the most money & curtail individual freedom & replace “evil capitalism” with totalitarianism.

  • RMorrow

    Liberals lie about everything, and then when that fails, they want any opposition to be silenced. Truth, facts and evidence is just to strong for Liberals. Liberals continue to represent the garbage of every society and the earth is not dying, God says he controls the climates and proves it everyday. Yet, the Liberals walk in this denial, which is mental illness.

  • Merde

    50,000 people in Paris last week couldn’t catch these AGW deniers?

  • Darth Awesome

    Hey everybody, I crapped off the balcony of a two story building while balancing a bucket on my head. This proves by a 106% consensus that the world will boil from solar flares unless we give all our money to Al Gore to use his freeze powers.

  • Kent_Pittsburgh

    So, I guess this is how you build a consensus: just get rid of everyone who disagrees.

    The dogmatism of the Left would make the Pharisees of Jesus’ time on earth look like a bunch of, well, classical liberals,

  • rawheadrex

    Typical of the left. They deny the Creator, but demand slavish devotion to His Creation. He has all under control; even the left whose misguided adherents refuse to acknowledge Him.

  • obamaisacorn

    liberals must control what’s said or the truth about their lies will get out.

  • Verbotene Gedanken

    “Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”
    – H. L. Mencken

    • aTXn;D

      The un is not the American public

      • Verbotene Gedanken

        No, but the American Public hasn’t burned down the UN building and kicked out the corrupt slime running it yet either.

        And that’s just dumb.

  • obamaisacorn

    the deniers have all the proof they need by running out the clock on all those man made global warming models the consensus scientists made for themselves…that never came true.
    Additionally, when their doom and gloom models are proven false over time, why are they so unhappy about it?
    Maybe its really not about the climate at all… ya think?!

  • Judy Cross

    “Are they trying to control the climate…. or you?” is a brilliant slogan.

  • jack taint

    how these morons can claim to control the overall temperature of the planet (a term insane already) to the tune of 0.5 degrees over a 100 year period is absurd considering they cant even predict tomorrows high temperature within 1-2 degrees!!!! LOL pure insanity

  • Defiance

    Manmade Climate Cultist Lynchpin:

    Climate shifts in and out of Ice Ages were 10-14x bigger than what has been observed in the last 190 years. And took place in 5-10 years. Without coal, cars, and clear cutting.

    • obamaisacorn

      the point is: FACTS DONT MATTER TO GLOBAL WARMERS.

    • Mr Flippy

      Thermal conductivity of air: .024 watts per meter per Kelvin
      Thermal conductivity of CO2: .014 watts per meter per Kelvin
      Thermal conductivity of water vapor: .016 watts per meter per Kelvin

  • Even More Importantly

    How can anyone sanely, calmly, and intelligently swallow the concept of ‘man-made climate change’? Are these people unaware of that fact that we have had hundreds of ice ages on this planet? Did humans change theses icy climates into various habitable zones by driving cars etc? Or is it more plausible that natural processes are at work?

    And regardless, how is taxing the middle class for what the wealthiest nations create and the developing nations exacerbate theoretically going to solve this? Its a tax for big government and it should be shouted down.

  • Paul H

    You know after reading this article it reminds me of Germany in 1933 where the Germans followed Hitler blindly and believe that Germany’s problem was the Jews, and see what that got them. We can all learn from everyone’s opinion we just have to listen with an open mind.

  • SevenofNine

    I’m a “denier”, can I get a wanted poster too?

  • Shrugged

    2015 will be the year known as the one where the media lost all credibility – race riots and faux “racism”, AGW climate change, and ISIS terror, Obamacare, Republican debates, etc.

    The media has been permanently discredited.

  • rowleya

    Abort UN and All Climate Changling Hoaxers
    Defund and Deport all To North Pole slave labor camps making toys for Santa.
    If they don’t get heat stroke then let the overpopulated, starving Polar Bears eat them.
    That would save the Planet.

  • myself98

    “Quick! We gotta get this done before Obama leaves office, and the Americans come to their senses!”

  • http://www.facebook.com/100001014849544 Mike Alan

    It must be great to be in power and decide if someone doesnt agree with you, you can silence them.

  • Jerry

    Effort to silence dissension is far more scary than climate change. If successful, we will clearly see where we will be in 5 years and it isn’t pretty.

  • SevenofNine

    Klimate Kult Klan – why just control blacks when you can control everyone!

  • Mr Flippy

    “full of lies”

    Irony?

  • Niccolo

    —-PARIS (AP) — The cold hard numbers of science haven’t spurred the world to curb runaway global warming. So as climate negotiators struggle in Paris, some scientists who appealed to the rational brain are enlisting what many would consider a higher power: the majesty of faith.

    It’s not God versus science, but followers of God and science together trying to save humanity and the planet, they say.—

    I can smell the desperation.

    • SevenofNine

      The current puppet pope is a socialist so he stands to benefit if he jumps on the Klimate Kult Klan bandwagon and brings all his useful “believers” with him…

  • Mr Flippy

    While the world is literally burning from terrorism (ironically, with no net rise in global temperatures), Obama was in Paris with the Climate fairies. (see, Activists of “Climacts Angels Guardians”)

  • JohnFul

    Where’s the warming?

    • robnbc

      Very pretty picture if ONLY it conformed to reality and not some PR fantasy.

  • Pelosi Galore

    The ‘jihadi AGW zealots’ have to silence opposition. What they don’t realize is, 97% of the US population is worrying about AGW about as much as worrying whether or not they’re using the right shampoo for their hair type.

  • highvolumelp

    There’s another word for climate change. It’s called “weather” and it’s been around a little while.

  • http://msn.com/ Jerry Branson

    This whole issue is a can of worms. We know from archeology and geology that climate changes have occurred for a very long time. So what’s new? Do we have air pollution? Of course. Before the Spaniard came to the southeast and horses got loose, the most serious pollution was dog poop. But today we have 3oo million people in this country and with all the many inventions on the market, we have a lot of air pollution. That is not new either. So what is the solution? Convert to alternate energy sources. But that is taking more time and in the meanwhile we have to use what we have. Penalizing users of such fuel sources will only run up costs(don’t tell me it won’t) and further delay alternate energy. So shut up, let us get on with progress and we will get to a solution. I see more being done on solar power all across the world, not just in the US. Wind power is now available in many places.

    • obamaisacorn

      you only need all of that if you bought in to the man made global freezing, warming lies.

      • http://msn.com/ Jerry Branson

        obamaisacorn,
        I am not sure I follow you statement.
        I had college courses in geology and archaeology. I subscribe to two archaeology magazines and do research on archaeological subject matter as a historian, I am also a volunteer at the museum of mining and geology where I live. What I was reffereing to in my statement is from teh facts of my investigations, not specifically on the topic of weather but as a matter of what I learned in class and subsequent reading. Conditions do vary over time by themselves as the earth revolves around the sun and tips on its axis.

  • rthomp8363

    So since someone doesnt agree with you, you kick them out so only your facts can be presented? Sounds like the liberals in the US.

    • obamaisacorn

      only if by ‘facts’ you mean the ‘lies’ they voted for.

  • Heckle&Jeckle

    the UN, do you mean blacks on a shopping trip?

  • Atilla Thehun

    The France meeting may be a bigger waste of time than listening to an Obama speech

  • obamaisacorn

    the liberals solution to their not existent problem of man made global warming is like Obama’s solution to the terrorists he lets in: More anti-2nd amendment laws to prevent law abiding citizens from protecting themselves against Obama’s terrorists. Seems most people would stop the terrorists from coming in before trying to void our constitution… unless voiding the constitution is the goal of letting terrorists into the country.

  • DeVessar D

    of course paris, france …isn’t that where la guard is from?

    this article makes me think of those corrupt politicians in the western states….I suppose with this kind of inside information a politician can get rich quick.

    http://www.ksl.com/?sid=37503011&nid=148&fm=most_popular&s_cid=article_popular-4

    Think of the type of scam this is for… the corrupt billionaires or want to be billionaires.
    And think of it going global….bet those wealthy nords are really do well….probably extremely well for those in the shipping business.

  • REC

    Climate change is the primary example of how science can be perverted by money and politics. Today there is an international climate establishment that is supported annually by billions of dollars to advance a war on fossil energy, promote an agenda of fear, and undermine capitalism’s market driven system. Anyone who does not subscribe to the climate orthodoxy is subjected intimidation and not to subtle threats to their careers. Some climate advocates have called so called skeptics war criminals who should be jailed, the equivalent of holocaust deniers, flat earthers, and industry pawns.

    To increase their power and influence, the climate establishment has adopted the mantra that the “science is settled” and 97% of scientists agree that human activities are the primary cause of climate change over the past 50 plus years.

    In making projections of future global temperatures, the IPCC relies on over 50 models, each of which reflects different assumptions about how the climate system functions. None of the models has been able to project actual temperatures or the pause. And, the only way these models can “back cast” past temperatures is by a process of adjustments. If climate science was settled, 50 plus models would be unnecessary and they would be highly accurate.

    Finally, there is the claim that 97% of climate scientists agree that climate change is real and man-made. It is a bogus claim based on a paper by John Cook of the University of Queensland’s Climate Change Institute. Reviews of Cook’s work demonstrate that is a case of cooking the books. One of those critiques was by Richard Tol, a professor at the University of Sussex and an IPCC lead author, while the most detailed and quantitative was by Steve McIntyre—Climate Audit website. Other critiques have included articles in the American Thinker, Debunking the 97% Consensus on Global Warming, February 4, 2014, The New American, Global Warming “Consensus: Cooking the Books, May 21, 2013, and a blog The Collapsing Consensus by Christopher Monckton of Brenchley.

  • DeVessar D

    From my research, all the literature about alternative energy are based upon lies. Our EPA authorized such literature about alternative energy yet made a following statement to their authorization to not back the literature’s content.

    Based upon my research, many alternative energy articles were written by just a very very few individuals.

    One writer of climate change was an ex-EPA official. Known to have published a lot of articles with a wide range reach.

    I’m left doubting preprints….if they exist anymore. I believe preprints are or was allowed to be retracted. Even edited.

    I’m unsure but it seems, a journal article could be falsified more easier than one would think. For example School of Arts abbreviated SOA verses School for Arts abbreviated SOA.

    With open access, prudence and review by quality experts can be by passed.

    Then there’s that IPPC (or whatever) that will not allow unbiased experts to review their data.

    Also the IPPC (?) would dispose of data that basically did not suit their needs….how scientific.

    So hence, ridicule and threats of persecution of deniers.

    It seems the billionaires or want to be’s are the dangers to our climate.

  • smedley

    Aaaahh a purge of the Troskyite/Zinoviev/Bukharinite left/right conspirators. These third worlders, barbarians, cannibals and tyrants, what a surprise that the Third World UN wants to halt all dissent.

  • Bobby Mc

    Hitler just shipped them off to camps…..

  • Zyzyzx Zyzer

    How far back in time was this climate change weaponized? Twenty thirty years maybe?
    Exalt the new God = TV. People will believe anything on the idiot box.

  • flowers_for_all_p0liticians

    I have a better idea. How about evicting UN and demolishing the building. It’ll take a few years for the stench to disappear but it’ll be worth it.

  • Bill Hapla

    Buttgurt Alert! “we don’t like them challenging us in our spafe zones,,,so make them shut up” whined the bitchy little weaklings of PCLibDemScum

  • http://www.drudgereport.com Matt Drudge

    Geeze. My readers will bich about anything, including the new Star Wars movie, which none of them have seen.

  • Turtle Bay

    Everyone go easy on the UN. They are great customers when it comes to the world’s oldest profession.

  • poorrichard

    Ve vill make you take climate controlled showers.
    Ve U.N. vill offer sucha deal on barbed vire. HEIL again.

  • John

    The Sun.

  • ThomasCollins1

    “One notorious oil industry-funded climate denier is debuting a documentary film full of lies and misinformation… (This is a completely false. Climate Hustle movie was fully funded by the support of roughly 1,500 citizen supporters…)

    Of course it is. The biggest oil man of all JDRockefeller IV and his family, through the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, and other “non-profits”, have led the way towards a “post-industrial society”. They know their reserves in the ground will be worth a lot more 100 years from now, and that is their time horizon. They started the Natural Resources Defense Council, which concerns itself with the environment, and promotes legislation which will ensure continued Standard domination of the energy business. While Exxon can pay the fees and fines exacted by the EPA, this creates a huge barrier to entry for small players.

  • John

    I hear that The Eagles of Climate Change will be playing at the summit…

  • Paul L. Grimala

    When are we going to dump and throw the UN (useless nations) out of the USA. If one doesn’t agree with what the un’s opinion is the can be denied their freedom of speech. And obummers probably goes along with it. How many more days before he’s out of office? One day is too many. Scumbag POS.

  • keith12345

    Anyone who is a climate skeptic belongs in prison for life.

    • N.D.

      Nice Sarcasm!

  • angryguy77

    can’t be true. The left never tries to silence opposition.

  • JackBootedThug

    I’m hoping that President Trump will get the US out of the UN…it’s nothing but a club for so-called “leaders” of third world toilets masquerading as countries to fleece the West out of more and more money. Pull the US out, and watch the UN collapse like a deck of cards. Maybe then they can move it to Brussels.

    • ThomasCollins1

      “I’m hoping that President Trump will get the US out of the UN…”

      …and the UN out of the US

  • TheAntiProgressive

    We need a class action suit against the UN and the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), ICLEI and it’s leaders for engaging in climate fraud and climate hysteria.

  • Shootist

    Please try and revoke Freeman Dyson. Just try.

  • 1911

    Too bad we can’t revoke the UN. They’ve become a parasite on our land, their members commit the worst excesses and hide under diplomatic immunity. Let some other country host them for a change. They seem to love all these muslim countries, let Tehran host them as part of the nuclear concessions. Couple random shootouts and terror bombings, and they’ll realize just how good they had it here.

  • N.D.

    When Side A demands to shutdown any questions, talk, or debate from Side B — and insists on being shielded from any opposition… You pretty much know everything you need to know.

    Side A refuses to be scrutinized (probably for good reason) and is full of $&#%.

  • BG60093

    I would prefer to revoke the credentials of the UN and get the UN out of the USA. We then should send a high school dropout to be paid minimum wage to be our ambassador to the UN with instructions to simply veto everything.

  • N.D.

    Ideological fascist sociopaths, drunk on groupthink (and desperate not to be legitimately scrutinized).

  • propel7

    The UN is a FRAUD contrivance of Globalist Bankers and their jesuit overlords. Exactyl like the Federal Reserve and it’s arm the IRS. UN-CONSTITUIONAL and CONTRIVED by the robbers and murderers of the innocents.

  • Anonynmous

    When the U.N. accuses a film of being “full of lies” before you even see it, yet hands out the Nobel Peace Prize to Al Gore for his movie back in 2005 before it was shown to have 9 scientifically incorrect elements to it then you KNOW the U.N. are feeding us ALL a load of lies! The MAIN POINT of Al Gore’s movie (the big correlating C02 to temperature graph behind Al Gore on stage) being a complete deception (while Al Gore is on the stage and the graph is plotted, Gore intimates that the C02 rise precedes the rise in heat, BUUUTTT……when you blow up the graph to a tighter comparison, the HEAT increases PRECEDE the C02 increases!

    That was one of the BIGGEST LIES of Al Gore’s movie and what ended up making me a big climate skeptic after I found out about it. Since then I also found out that Al Gore bought a majority of ownership in the Chicago Climate Exchange in anticipation of Cap & Trade being passed back in 2011, which it didn’t, but if it had passed, Al Gore would’ve been among the richest men on planet Earth. CLEARLY this shows that Al Gore wants a big GLOBAL tax for “Climate Change” because it will benefit him immensely.

  • Calchiefsfan

    The word “deniers” is being used to denigrate and mock opponents. I wish we would stop using the terminology of these people. They are careful to frame dialogue, and using their terms just aids them.

  • rockribbed

    The only heresy in science… is “settled science”.

  • William Hofmeister

    Being a climate denier has now moved into being a badge of courage and a true show of scientific knowledge.

    • Anonynmous

      I’m not sure about going THAT far, but it does show that you are not going to fall for a false science. I think there may be a little ‘something’ to what these climate scientists are selling, but certainly not as ‘dire’ as they claim. My BS detector tells me they’ve taken a rather minor side effect of industry in nature and blow it up into a fully fabricated climate scare for profit.

      • William Hofmeister

        I am an engineer and feel the climate science alarmism is destroying scientific reputation with the public. Personally, from my own examination there is far too much data manipulation and false science going on. The movement has been taken over as a political movement rather than a scientific one. When it finally comes crashing down the public will we very wary of accepting what science says in the future. I find that damaging to the field I love.

        • robnbc

          The nice thing about real science is that you can look at the published data, look at the methodology, look at the conclusions and come to you own conclusion. You can even do your own research and subject to expert analysis and review. OR you can just repeat the Fox News talking points that simply dismiss anything that doesn’t fit their ideology. Your choice.

      • William Hofmeister

        My Master’s was in statistical process control. I know from experience what it is to chase a very small variability in a noise background. You can find all kinds of patterns that don’t really exist. After a certain point you become more and more convinced it is there, when it’s not. I think the present art of climate science resembles tea reading.

  • outofstep

    So freedom of thought and speech is under attack? Why? What are they afraid of? Being discovered? Being money grabbers? Being wrong, again?

  • Al Gore

    How to deny “free speech” brought to you by United Nations.

  • robnbc

    The strength of the opinions expressed here are NOT evidence of their validity. :)

  • justin stark

    America needs to ‘revoke’ the UN’s invite to operate in the US, evict their
    premises from this Country and ‘revoke’ any payments for membership in
    this entirely Bogus Organization. Summarily, dump them out of New York.

  • Dark Side of the Moon

    elections have consequences and this is wha it has come to… climate change

  • Blandly Urbane

    Why would anyone take them at their word on anything? Even if the world were about to explode, because of the charlatans involved and political malfeasance, they haven’t a leg to stand on

    Piss off Gore

  • NessieIncident

    Climate change is real. It is, however, caused by a malfunction in the way time and light speed are supposed to work together. Einstein wrote the calculation in 1932 by request of a young Adolf Einsfield who believed that warps in climate tension bar calendars written in 1928 showed that the teliological sequences from climocoreahs were working perfectly and had been since the last panhard occurred, but would come out of flux about 1980. Einsfield died in a street car accident in Spain and Einstein’s paper was sent for safe keeping to Dobb’s Station, where there is a massive calculation saftory still guarded by expressive governments. At any rate, the calculations went unread again until 2011 when a young genius named Larry Gurley found them and deciphered them. He noted that the exact date of the reflux would happen in 2018, putting temperatures back where they belong in order to support poverty-bound seaside life and that very strangely, Albert Gore, Jr. had begun his attempt to sell electric car stock on the very same day the misflux was supposed to happen according to Einstein. So, yes, it happens. Climate change occurs in some form at least four times a year, unless you live in California, the next Califfate. Deniers should be put in time out.

  • robnbc

    Use google scholar to search “climate change data” – you will get 2.6 million articles – read down the list and count how many support AGW and how many are inconsistent with AGW. You will read for an hour before you find ONE that does NOT support the AGW hypothesis. Fox News deals in talking points not science.

    • robnbc

      The strength of your opinions is NOT evidence of their accuracy.

  • Silence Dogood

    And the left shows its fascism. Once again…

  • muffychops

    There will be no free speech, you do not have an opinion, understand? If not we will come for you!

  • xsnake

    That’s good news. Shows the bahstids up for just who they are…..commie control freaks.

  • Sorceress

    Actual scientists looking at REAL facts have come to the conclusion that AGW/climate change is bunk. Not only that, but the entire UN scam is designed simply to gather billions of dollars from wealthier countries and to place controls on countries that the UN has no business putting there. The Untied States is a sovereign country. The UN has no power to make law for the United States or for any US citizen. The UN has no power to tax or regulate anything that is done in the US. The entire climate change charade is meaningless and would be laughable if not for the fact that any number of fools with power they do not deserve are pounding the lie so loudly and so frequently that some few poor ignorant souls will believe that lies without doing any research on their own. The truth is out there. CO2 is a trace gas. We need it to live. It does not cause global warming. There has been no “global warming” for more than 20 years. The climate is cyclical and mankind is just fleas on the dog with no more control over the climate than the fleas control the dog. That said: If we do not take control over these people, they will ultimately cost us many billions of dollars and we will all be living in caves unable to even stay warm by burning whatever dead wood we can find.

  • Big White Bear

    “Activists demand UN ‘revoke’ credentials of ‘climate deniers’ in Paris… Warn skeptics may ‘derail’ UN treaty”

    Skeptics may derail the huge money scam of the world population – that’s the real worry.

  • Rob Billeaud

    The degree to which the climate change alarmists view this as a religion is apparent in the fervor with which they attack their enemies. There are a lot of crackpot scientists out there, but there aren’t any calls to revoke their credentials. It’s only the “climate deniers” that they are targeting. And the thing is, I don’t see any of them “denying” that the climate is changing. Most rational people accept that the climate is dynamic and will go through cycles of warming and cooling. What is up for discussion, and that is what true science is all about, is the degree to which man is responsible for influencing these cycles. In fact, what is very unscientific is the assertion that there is some ideal temperature/climate that can be maintained by human intervention.Anytime humans have foolishly attempted to intervene in the workings of Mother Earth have ended up with a basket load of unforeseen consequences. If there’s one thing I’ve learned in my 50+ years on Earth, it’s that you shouldn’t monkey with things you don’t fully understand.

  • LJN

    Let’s make a list of these commie phuckers and when they fall (and they surely will), we’ll know exactly who to round up and jail for the rest of their earthly lives.

    • largejack

      I’d have at a guess the big players behind it are names we’ve probably never heard of. The politicians are just their little goons who daren’t step out of line.

  • Cranios

    Can’t wait to see this movie! Proud to be a climate denier!

  • whoodoo

    The assertion of global climate change is based on scientific data, analysis of that data, and conclusions drawn from same, and as such, censorship, of critical analysis of that science, must be prohibited. That is, because the critical analysis of scientific data, analyses and conclusions are the essence of science, why it enjoys the credibility that it does, why it has realized incremental improvement over the centuries, and why no exceptions can be made.

    Further, the facts of the scientific matter are confounded in public policies and debate with economic and political policy agendas, not in the domain of science (other than the analysis of the relevant quantitative effects of one policy or another on climate change) which are wholly within the realm of legitimate public concern and debate. That is, one can accept the scientific conclusions, with or without conditions if one is qualified, and be wholly opposed to policy decisions related to that science if it is determined that the policies are counterproductive, neutral but a waste of time, effort and resources, or positive but too expensive to yield substantial results. It’s important to recognize these distinctions to keep the activists on both sides in line.

    • robnbc

      Good luck with rational discussion with this crowd. They get their talking points from Fox News and could care less about actual science. This is the same crowd that thinks Obama was born in Kenya, 911 was an inside job and vaccines cause autism. Trump says,”they will believe anything I tell them.”

  • Mike

    Better yet, withdraw membership and funding to this joke organization.

  • Tmost

    If you AGW supporters are so sure that you are right, why would you need to stifle disagreement. Just prove them wrong. But you really can’t do that now can you?

  • Tmost

    Give us your money and we will tell you everything is OK.

  • Hood Ratt

    If you can’t earn people’s convictions through your hard work, legislate them into bankruptcy, classic Hitler, Stalin, Haters…

  • HAL 9000

    I’m confused. Do these people really not know the burden of proof is on the scientists, not the skeptics? Or is it just pap for the unwashed masses of the angry Left? Or maybe they have started to believe their own bull?

    • robnbc

      Climate scientists have provided 100,000s of carefully designed and expertly analysed studies but they are ALL simply dismissed by those who keep repeating “its actually cooling”,”the sun is causing it”,”rapid warming happens all the time” as if the those Heartland Institute talking points were gospel truth. Even Exxon’s scientists say they have known for years that burning fossil fuels is a major contributor to AGW.

  • Mickey

    Science runs on skepticism.

    Religion runs on dogma.

    You tell me which one this is.

  • one

    THE GREAT CLIMATE HUSSLE, OR HOW U.N. DICTATORS CON THE USA AND OTHER WEALTHY COUNTRYS OUT OF MONEY,

  • Mike0oSS

    These are dangerous people threatening others with differing opinions and studies. Why is the evidence so cloaked in secrecy? here in the States, the government won’t release it’s latest findings on the topic, but tell the rest of us to just “go along” with their assumptions. Tying international terrorism to “climate change” was the last delusional stretch for me. Anything is “climate change” and everything is “climate change”. Total B.S.

    • robnbc

      BS – the science is completely open – go to Google Scholar (searches only research journals) and you will get 2.44 MILLION references to climate change. You can count the studies for and against. The ratio is about 99.9 to 1. You can also look at at the raw data from OCO2, ARGOS, NASA, NOAA, etc. These are the people who actually do research NOT the Koch funded PR firms who provide talking points for Fox News. Reality is not a left-wing conspiracy.

      • Mike0oSS

        B.S. the Dept of Interior has the latest results of all the related government agencies regarding “climate change”. This administration refuses to allow this info to be disseminated. Private donors, vs government donors. Is that your litmus test? heck, I just want scientists without a dog in to fight doing the research….not some government hack worried about next years funding. Which is all that alphabet soup bunch you just quoted up there are.

        • robnbc

          Mike – Look at the original research and decide for yourself what is true. Reality always “trumps” ideology.

          • Mike0oSS

            Ha..the “original research” has been debunked by the “original researchers”.None of the computer modeling nor the projections have panned. It’s all the new religion for you rubes…This is designed to redistribute our money and bring the U.S. into the third world sandbox. It’s the biggest scam since “religion” was first tried out on you rubes.

          • robnbc

            I am 99% certain you haven’t actually read the original research or the actual model predictions. You seem more concerned about your finances than you do about the world your children will raise their children in. Fortunately the scientific method provides more reliable information than tea-party talking points conveniently provided by the people who are funding the climate contrarians.

          • Mike0oSS

            I’m 99% certain I could sell you any old pos if I could just hold your attention for 35 seconds. This is your “religion” and I don’t believe in any God. I believe we can destroy what we make. The Earth won’t be destroyed by us, but we will probably destroy ourselves over bulshet like this crap…or islam, or some other nonsenseical bulshet. Leave it to the navel lint and nose pickers…they know best.

          • Mike0oSS

            I think you assume you know me personally rube. I think, you think you can guilt me into believing your bunk. Think your just some misguided rube with nothing else to do with your life than drag the rest of us down with your unmitigated B.S. Meanwhile Fukushima continues to spray radioactive crud into the Pacific, unabated. Something we could take care of goes unnoticed by the “un” crowd.

  • one

    These folks are such open minded leftists they don’t even want to hear the other side.

  • rawheadrex

    “Everybody talks about the weather, but nobody does anything about it.” This is attributed to Mark Twain, but apparently originated with Charles Dudley Warner, editor of the Hartford Courant in an Apr. 27, 1897 editorial. Warner and Twain(Samuel Clemens) were friends.

    Truth be told, nobody does anything about the weather because it is beyond the power of mere mankind to do anything. But mankind’s self-estimation, especially in the case of the left, a deadly combination of “caring” and foolish thought of knowing what is best for others, often results in disaster, however well-intentioned.

  • DTH

    Activists demand UN ‘revoke’ credentials of ‘climate deniers’ in Paris” For that reason lone, climate peddlers should not be believed. Their argument cannot stand on it merit alone, it has to silence and criminalize any opposing views.

  • Major kangaroo

    The thought police was a funny idea a while back . Not so much anymore .

  • Timebomb

    Climate activist are idiots…..look, the sky is falling!

  • funkybro

    Yes, by all means, silence all opposition! You cannot have an argument over anything the Left wants!! They decry a lack of “inclusiveness” in most anything, but are never willing to be inclusive themselves. The Left is made up of the worst hypocritical elements of society. They are themselves the worshipers of fascism whenever they would be the fascists wielding the power. They do NOT believe in freedom, the benefits of a free exchange of ideas, or the betterment of society through reason and dialogue. They are a deceitful, shameless band of wannabe dictators. There is a major storm brewing on the horizon. Be ready.

  • Dave

    Man Made Global Climate Change Is A Lie By The Left Wing Satanic Communist To Usher In New World Order. Vote #TRUMP 2016.

    • http://www.organicfool.com OrganicFool

      “And they weren’t able to buy or sell anything without the Mark of the Beast” Sounds a lot like a carbon currency scheme!

      The AGW religion may just be how the Antichrist will unite the world. The Pope has signed on as the False Prophet with Al Gore. They have turned a .04% harmless trace gas necessary for plant growth into the “god particle”. “And they worshiped the Beast and the Image”.

      “God will send them a powerful delusion…” 2 Thes. 2. “For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.” Matt. 24

  • Rex

    Climate Liars should all be shot in their heads…..every last one of them. They are Fascists and Terrorists.

  • Rex

    CLIMATE CHANGE LIARS are trying to shout down Science…..Which Law of Thermodynamics allows for “heat hiding in the ocean depths”?

  • Rex

    Climate Change Liars are like Muslim Fanatics….

  • wylie123

    How about we revoke the credential of the UN and make them pay their own way? Their charter was world peace, not climate change and the two are different.

    • Tex

      Dude…I love peaches….

  • Hillary 2016

    It’s time to burn down the cLIEmate Change liars homes, and skin their children…..

  • Hillary 2016

    YAAAAWNNNNNNNZZZZZ
    Climate IS the weather, and THE WEATHER HAS ALWAYS CHANGED…..
    Is Google really lying about THE DEFINITION OF CLIMATE? Too stupid to know, or too lazy to look?

  • BSORaiderErie

    I’m a very proud denier of climate change/global warming since being stationed in West Germany from 83-86! These idiots expect us to trust scientists, physicists, and climatologists who receive 97% of their funding from world governments and the other 3% from groups who line their pockets because of policies these governments create.
    God Bless the USA and Springfield Armory!

    • robnbc

      Do you vaccinate your children?

      • BSORaiderErie

        My children were vaccinated but in the 80s. Why do you ask?
        God Bless the USA and Springfield Armory!

  • tfm

    The socialist Jew Federal Reserve Bankster Cartel made up Climate Change to enrich their greedy socialist jew buddies and selves. The filthy greedy swine were just not satisfied with the SEVEN TRILLION DOLLARS THEY PRINTED FOR THEMSELVES UNDER OBAMA ALONE!

    • robnbc

      Can I recommend some nice people for you to talk to about your anger issues? Please stay away from guns.

  • tfm

    Climate and weather are synonyms and mean the same thing….The first three words in the definition of climate are THE WEATHER CONDITIONS…. HOW STUPID ARE DEMOCRATS?
    Is Google really lying about the DEFINITION OF CLIMATE?

  • tfm

    Real Eyes
    Realize
    Real Lies (Man Made Climate Change)

  • Mervyn

    70 years have past since Europeans experienced the dark era of nazi domination … and yet Europe seems to have forgotten just how important it is for individual free speech, freedom of expression, and the importance of respect for the right of people to express their ideas even if some find such ideas offensive.

    People who use the term ‘climate denier’ reveal two things about themselves. First, they do not believe in democracy. Second, they are intolerant.

    Such people, under the right conditions, are the very type of people that gave Europe Adolf Hitler.

    • robnbc

      Do you mean Trump supporters ??? (by the way you violated Godwin’s law and therefore automatically lose the argument ) :)

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  • Ecotopian

    No need for a perp walk. Living in ignominy will be sufficient.

  • Renee LaChapelle

    Climate Change AKA Global Warming, they changed the name to protect the fraud. Drives the mad beast New World Order. Created for such. Thank you, Marc for standing against. And, we will pray for your safety as Trump’s. The Fascists are hellbent in burning down the free world for slavery.

  • robnbc

    While the GOP is busy revisiting the McCarthy era while the rest of the adult world is moving on toward substantial reduction of fossil fuel use. Smart money is divesting from oil/coal because it is becoming an obsolete fuel. Even Exxon has admitted they contributed to AGW and are investing in alternate energy projects. Insurance companies are demanding government action and COP21 has turned the corner on meaningful efforts to control GHGs. Soon the Kochs will no longer be able to afford financing the climate denial PR effort or pay for the GOP’s “know nothing” philosophy. Trump is busy alienating everyone outside his old, angry, white, southern, male dropout, gun nut demographic. Its fortunate that reality has a well known liberal bias :)

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