Rare ABC News TV Debate: Climate Depot Vs. Center For Am. Progress — ‘UN IPCC was a political organization masquerading as a science group. It’s been exposed’
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Anchored by Vicki Mabrey – ABC News Correspondent – Original Air Date: February 15, 2010
Marc Morano, Executive Editor, Climate Depot Versus Daniel Weiss, Director for Climate Strategy, Center for American Progress (firstname.lastname@example.org)
Selected ABC News Nightline excerpts of highly contentious debate shout-fest:
Daniel Weiss: Blizzards are “consistent with what scientists had predicted would happen under global warming…”
Marc Morano Counter: “It’s consistent with climate astrology, basically it’s a horoscope, anything that happens, it’s ‘Hey I think my horoscope predicted it.’ It is the height of silliness to even link the two, and [Dan Weiss] should be embarrassed.”
Morano: “The UN IPCC was a political organization masquerading as a science group. It’s been exposed. And now you have Center for American Progress — which Dan Weiss is member of — you have them linking and questioning whether the Minneapolis bridge collapse cold have been caused by global warming. (See: Joe Romm of Center for American Progress questioned whether the bridge collapse in Minnesota was a result of man-made global warming) This is sub-prime science and in a different age we would be laughing at people making these kinds of claims.”
Morano: Climategate is wonderful — to watch, the upper echelon of the UN, including the chairman of the climate panel exposed — the corruption, the resignations, the calls by top UN scientists for their leader (Pachauri) to resign, the embarrassment, the dozens of gates springing up, the fraudulent data they presented in the UN climate reports.
ABC News Reporter Vicki Mabrey: What is their to be gained [by promoting global warming]?
Morano: “They are talking about a global Co2 tax, they are talking global Co2 budget for every man women and child on the planet. Guess what, run by an international body, with tons of money; tons of bureaucratic bean counters in charge they get to manage a ‘manufacture crisis.’”
Weiss to Morano: “Next you are going to be telling us the moon landing was staged.”
Morano Counter: “Monowalkers are the skeptics. That is a silly analogy, you have been exposed again.” (See: Moonwalkers Defy Gore’s Claim That Climate Skeptics Are Akin To Those Who Believe Moon Landing was ‘Staged’ – July 3, 2009)
Morano: “The whole idea of a ‘consensus’ was manufactured by a UN political organization. ABC News s not innocent here. [ABC News climate reporter] Bill Blakemore in 2006 did a survey that said ABC News could not find any debate on global warming. [ABC News] put its news organization behind his reporting. It’s time for Bill Blakemore and ABC News to issue a mea culpa as the entire [global warming] movement collapses.” (See: 2006: ABC’s Bill Blakemore: ‘After extensive searches, ABC News has found no such [scientific] debate’ on global warming)
Weiss responds to Morano’s Blakemore comments: Morano “sees conspiracies everywhere, conspiracy so big that even ABC News is part of it.”
Morano Counter: “That’s called bad reporting, not a conspiracy.”
Morano: “Carbon based energy has been one of the greatest liberators of mankind in the history of our planet. It has literally brought people out of a short, nasty and brutish existence. When you look at the developing world 1.6 billion people do not have running water, electricity, and the best way to advance that is carbon based energy. It is a perversion to go into the [developing world] and think they will have solar panels on their huts made of dung, or they are going to have windmills that are going to power 1.6 billion people without electricity. That is where the morality of this issue comes in. (See: Morano warns of ‘a new form of colonialism': ‘The white wealthy western world is telling 1.6 billion people in developing world — predominantly of color — that they have to have their economies managed, their energy managed all because of climate fears’ – December 10, 2009)
ABC News Reporter Vicki Mabrey to Morano: “What happens if you are wrong?”
Morano: “Great question. Absolutely nothing. Even if the UN and Al Gore were right, their solutions would not even have a detectable impact on temperature. The cap and trade bill in before the US senate, not even a measurable impact on temperatures, despite the fact that Obama seems to believe it will cool our planet 4 or 5 degrees. (See: Climate Depot Editorial: Climate bill offers (costly) non-solutions to problems that don’t even exist – No detectable climate impact: ‘If we actually faced a man-made ‘climate crisis’, we would all be doomed’ – June 26, 2009 & Obama claims U.S. climate bill will leave Earth 4 to 5 degrees cooler! – June 15, 2009 – Excerpt: “A long-term benefit is we’re leaving a planet to our children that isn’t four or five degrees hotter.”)
Morano: “The idea of an insurance policy against warming through cap-and-trade or UN policies is the equivalent of buying an insurance policy on your home that costs nearly as much as your home and has virtually no payout if your home burns down. If you want that kind of insurance policy, then the UN and Congress have a deal for you.”
ABC News Vicki Mabrey: Thank you so much for this lively incredible discussion.
Flashback 2006: Morano Debates IPCC’s Chairman Pachauri at UN Climate Conference in Kenya – ‘Global warming skeptics are ‘demonized’
‘Wash. Post’s Andrew Freedman has chickened out on an actual debate with Morano’ – ‘Climate Depot continues to beat WaPo’s Freedman like a rented mule’